#1 Posted by slacker the hacker (7839 posts) - - Show Bio

Trion Juggernaut with power gem while Kuurth is in him

How powerful would this Juggernaut be with all the powers ups listed above and if possible to determine who is the most powerful character he could beat.

#2 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

Trion Juggernaut: Cyttorak negates all other power so having the Power Gem and Kuurth wouldn't even matter at all. He will still be the same Super Juggernaut that was smashing dimensions.

#3 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyttorak be like 8/10 of the power. The other 2/10 would help against Superman who on these threads still win due to Speed Blitz or Flash IMP.

#4 Posted by FourthDeity (2234 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

Cyttorak be like 8/10 of the power. The other 2/10 would help against Superman who on these threads still win due to Speed Blitz or Flash IMP.

#5 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

Trion Juggernaut smash through dimension, with Power Gem and Kuurth would makes this Juggernaut capable of shattering planet with casual blow.

#6 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

If you smash dimensions all the planets and other realities go with the dimension. And you can't stack other powers on Cyttorak's. Can't stack a portion unto what is already infinite.

#7 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

Y@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

If you smash dimensions all the planets and other realities go with the dimension. And you can't stack other powers on Cyttorak's. Can't stack a portion unto what is already infinite.

Yes. Yes you can.

#8 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@whydama said:

Y@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

If you smash dimensions all the planets and other realities go with the dimension. And you can't stack other powers on Cyttorak's. Can't stack a portion unto what is already infinite.

Yes. Yes you can.

You can stack a portion onto a portion but not a portion onto infinite because it will still be infinite.

#9 Posted by toby5678910 (340 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Can't stack a portion unto what is already infinite.

lol what ???

#10 Edited by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

slacker the hacker is asking a question. He wants to know how powerful that Juggernaut would be, but it will be still be the same no matter how it's "stacked".

Juggernaut + Kuurth + Power Gem = Juggernaut

#11 Posted by Pwok21 (2389 posts) - - Show Bio

@toby5678910 @whydama

Infinite plus One is still Infinite, as Infinite has no numerical value other than limitless or endless.

#12 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

Mathematically, there is such a thing as a larger infinity and a smaller infinity.

Infinite and countable things are generally thought to be lesser than infinite and uncountable things

#13 Posted by girugamesh (439 posts) - - Show Bio

This is going nowhere.

#14 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@whydama said:

Mathematically, there is such a thing as a larger infinity and a smaller infinity.

Infinite and countable things are generally thought to be lesser than infinite and uncountable things

That's why the Crimson Cosmos isn't countable, thus isn't stackable. If you "add" in another portion, it will be times by 0 (Zero). So Crimson Gem = 100% + Power Gem x 0 + Kuurth x 0 = Crimson Gem = 100%

Juggernaut can do anything and everything the Power Gem and Kuurth can do so adding them doesn't stack up. It doesn't make Juggernaut more powerful. (note the "Trion Juggernaut" is the reference name for the original Juggernaut using almost max the power of the Crimson Gem.... 8th Day is just a reference name of regular normal Juggernaut in reference to that saga)

#15 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@whydama said:

Mathematically, there is such a thing as a larger infinity and a smaller infinity.

Infinite and countable things are generally thought to be lesser than infinite and uncountable things

That's why the Crimson Cosmos isn't countable, thus isn't stackable. If you "add" in another portion, it will be times by 0 (Zero). So Crimson Gem = 100% + Power Gem x 0 + Kuurth x 0 = Crimson Gem = 100%

Juggernaut can do anything and everything the Power Gem and Kuurth can do so adding them doesn't stack up. It doesn't make Juggernaut more powerful. (note the "Trion Juggernaut" is the reference name for the original Juggernaut using almost max the power of the Crimson Gem.... 8th Day is just a reference name of regular normal Juggernaut in reference to that saga)

I dont think you understand the maths

#16 Posted by HellionVulcan (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

Trion Juggernaut + Kuurth + Power gem = destroyed everything lol .

#17 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@whydama said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@whydama said:

Mathematically, there is such a thing as a larger infinity and a smaller infinity.

Infinite and countable things are generally thought to be lesser than infinite and uncountable things

That's why the Crimson Cosmos isn't countable, thus isn't stackable. If you "add" in another portion, it will be times by 0 (Zero). So Crimson Gem = 100% + Power Gem x 0 + Kuurth x 0 = Crimson Gem = 100%

Juggernaut can do anything and everything the Power Gem and Kuurth can do so adding them doesn't stack up. It doesn't make Juggernaut more powerful. (note the "Trion Juggernaut" is the reference name for the original Juggernaut using almost max the power of the Crimson Gem.... 8th Day is just a reference name of regular normal Juggernaut in reference to that saga)

I dont think you understand the maths

There's no math. It's all times by zero because Cyttorak's power negates EVERYTHING.(Sited: War of the Seven Spheres and Infinity Wars and Strange III/44)

Look at it in this perspective. If Superman had the Crimson Gem, he would turn into the Juggernaut. He wouldn't need the radiation of a yellow star to fly faster than the speed of light or lift quadrillions of tons because the Gem of Cyttorak supplies all of that. If Odin had the Crimson Gem, he would turn into the Juggernaut. All that he does isn't supplied by himself anymore, but is supplied by the Gem of Cyttorak. If Galactus had the Gem of Cyttorak, he wouldn't need the Power Cosmics since The Gem supplies constant unlimited power. He wouldn't have to eat planets anymore if he had the Gem of Cyttorak and all his current powers would already be supplied by that one Gem. If Thanos had the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak, he wouldn't need the Infinity Gauntlet because the Gem of Cyttorak already supplies all of that.

#18 Edited by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@whydama said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@whydama said:

Mathematically, there is such a thing as a larger infinity and a smaller infinity.

Infinite and countable things are generally thought to be lesser than infinite and uncountable things

That's why the Crimson Cosmos isn't countable, thus isn't stackable. If you "add" in another portion, it will be times by 0 (Zero). So Crimson Gem = 100% + Power Gem x 0 + Kuurth x 0 = Crimson Gem = 100%

Juggernaut can do anything and everything the Power Gem and Kuurth can do so adding them doesn't stack up. It doesn't make Juggernaut more powerful. (note the "Trion Juggernaut" is the reference name for the original Juggernaut using almost max the power of the Crimson Gem.... 8th Day is just a reference name of regular normal Juggernaut in reference to that saga)

I dont think you understand the maths

There's no math. It's all times by zero because Cyttorak's power negates EVERYTHING.(Sited: War of the Seven Spheres and Infinity Wars and Strange III/44)

Look at it in this perspective. If Superman had the Crimson Gem, he would turn into the Juggernaut. He wouldn't need the radiation of a yellow star to fly faster than the speed of light or lift quadrillions of tons because the Gem of Cyttorak supplies all of that. If Odin had the Crimson Gem, he would turn into the Juggernaut. All that he does isn't supplied by himself anymore, but is supplied by the Gem of Cyttorak. If Galactus had the Gem of Cyttorak, he wouldn't need the Power Cosmics since The Gem supplies constant unlimited power. He wouldn't have to eat planets anymore if he had the Gem of Cyttorak and all his current powers would already be supplied by that one Gem. If Thanos had the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak, he wouldn't need the Infinity Gauntlet because the Gem of Cyttorak already supplies all of that.

There is always Maths

#19 Posted by Assman (1840 posts) - - Show Bio

Too many quotes hurting my head in this thread, not to mention very little making sense and a lot of input from peoples heads/ideas.

#20 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@whydama said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@whydama said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@whydama said:

Mathematically, there is such a thing as a larger infinity and a smaller infinity.

Infinite and countable things are generally thought to be lesser than infinite and uncountable things

That's why the Crimson Cosmos isn't countable, thus isn't stackable. If you "add" in another portion, it will be times by 0 (Zero). So Crimson Gem = 100% + Power Gem x 0 + Kuurth x 0 = Crimson Gem = 100%

Juggernaut can do anything and everything the Power Gem and Kuurth can do so adding them doesn't stack up. It doesn't make Juggernaut more powerful. (note the "Trion Juggernaut" is the reference name for the original Juggernaut using almost max the power of the Crimson Gem.... 8th Day is just a reference name of regular normal Juggernaut in reference to that saga)

I dont think you understand the maths

There's no math. It's all times by zero because Cyttorak's power negates EVERYTHING.(Sited: War of the Seven Spheres and Infinity Wars and Strange III/44)

Look at it in this perspective. If Superman had the Crimson Gem, he would turn into the Juggernaut. He wouldn't need the radiation of a yellow star to fly faster than the speed of light or lift quadrillions of tons because the Gem of Cyttorak supplies all of that. If Odin had the Crimson Gem, he would turn into the Juggernaut. All that he does isn't supplied by himself anymore, but is supplied by the Gem of Cyttorak. If Galactus had the Gem of Cyttorak, he wouldn't need the Power Cosmics since The Gem supplies constant unlimited power. He wouldn't have to eat planets anymore if he had the Gem of Cyttorak and all his current powers would already be supplied by that one Gem. If Thanos had the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak, he wouldn't need the Infinity Gauntlet because the Gem of Cyttorak already supplies all of that.

There is always Maths

Not for magic.

Math: 1+ 1 = 2

Magic 1 + 1 = 3

Magic makes logical math moot.

#21 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@whydama said:

Y@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

If you smash dimensions all the planets and other realities go with the dimension. And you can't stack other powers on Cyttorak's. Can't stack a portion unto what is already infinite.

Yes. Yes you can.

You can stack a portion onto a portion but not a portion onto infinite because it will still be infinite.

this

#22 Posted by TheSecondOpinion (614 posts) - - Show Bio

Kuurth was weaker than a full power Juggernaut.

So applying him into Trion Juggernaut is not going to do anything really.

#23 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@whydama said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@whydama said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@whydama said:

Mathematically, there is such a thing as a larger infinity and a smaller infinity.

Infinite and countable things are generally thought to be lesser than infinite and uncountable things

That's why the Crimson Cosmos isn't countable, thus isn't stackable. If you "add" in another portion, it will be times by 0 (Zero). So Crimson Gem = 100% + Power Gem x 0 + Kuurth x 0 = Crimson Gem = 100%

Juggernaut can do anything and everything the Power Gem and Kuurth can do so adding them doesn't stack up. It doesn't make Juggernaut more powerful. (note the "Trion Juggernaut" is the reference name for the original Juggernaut using almost max the power of the Crimson Gem.... 8th Day is just a reference name of regular normal Juggernaut in reference to that saga)

I dont think you understand the maths

There's no math. It's all times by zero because Cyttorak's power negates EVERYTHING.(Sited: War of the Seven Spheres and Infinity Wars and Strange III/44)

Look at it in this perspective. If Superman had the Crimson Gem, he would turn into the Juggernaut. He wouldn't need the radiation of a yellow star to fly faster than the speed of light or lift quadrillions of tons because the Gem of Cyttorak supplies all of that. If Odin had the Crimson Gem, he would turn into the Juggernaut. All that he does isn't supplied by himself anymore, but is supplied by the Gem of Cyttorak. If Galactus had the Gem of Cyttorak, he wouldn't need the Power Cosmics since The Gem supplies constant unlimited power. He wouldn't have to eat planets anymore if he had the Gem of Cyttorak and all his current powers would already be supplied by that one Gem. If Thanos had the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak, he wouldn't need the Infinity Gauntlet because the Gem of Cyttorak already supplies all of that.

There is always Maths

Not for magic.

Math: 1+ 1 = 2

Magic 1 + 1 = 3

Magic makes logical math moot.

Reed Richards disagrees