Hope(x-men) vs Black Alice(birds of prey)

Black alice vs Hope, who wins.... one has the power of any magic user in the DC and one has the power of any mutant in Marvel.....

Depends on the location. Hope is limited to mutants in her immediate vicinity, Lori is not. She can take the powers of someone like Wonder Woman or Alan Scott even if they're on the other side of the planet and then make short work of Hope.

I think that either way this goes to Black Alice.

hmm. Even with part of the phenix(spelled wrong....) force? Plus i thought black alice is on a time limit right? She can't use her powers that long... I dont really know much about hope overall but i feel like they have similiar powers...

Can Hope have any power she chooses? and doesn't she amp that power up to it's full potential?

@BMEZY said:

Can Hope have any power she chooses? and doesn't she amp that power up to it's full potential?

Hope cannot just randomly have any power she chooses. That is not how her power works.

@CitizenBane: I read the wiki and its a little vague... how does her power work?

@KingSolomon said:

@CitizenBane: I read the wiki and its a little vague... how does her power work?

Hope? She mimics the powers of mutants in her vicinity.

Hope was never that impressive, she's like a radius-bomb of Rogue.

@Sufferthorn said:

Hope was never that impressive, she's like a radius-bomb of Rogue.

This, I think they have went out of there way to avoid making her seem to powerful. She can only hold on to a power for a few moments as well.

@Dextersinister:

She's only really important because she can hold Phoenix....kinda

@Sufferthorn said:

@Dextersinister:

She's only really important because she can hold Phoenix....kinda

She is going to be a "has not realized her potential" character. She can also take control of any mutant that came into power after she was born not sure if she can control others but it hasn't been mentioned since the end of Gen Hope.

@Dextersinister:

Yeah yeah. Iceman is Omega now too, which really annoys me. They just can't leave that stuff alone.

If a mutant of sufficient power is not around, Alice uses any one of these powers to whoop Hope.

@CitizenBane:

Okay, okay. Didn't have to overkill us. We know who wins.

this is a complete mismatch due to how Hope's powers work. She has no powers if there are no mutants to draw her power from

Black Alice.

she's only able to borrow from other magic users right? or that extends onto other things?

@CitizenBane said:

Depends on the location. Hope is limited to mutants in her immediate vicinity, Lori is not. She can take the powers of someone like Wonder Woman or Alan Scott even if they're on the other side of the planet and then make short work of Hope.

I think Lori is limited in range. When she reaches out for the dude in Platinum Flatts she had to focus. She wouldn't have time to do that here. Have't read her in a while though.

@Pokeysteve said:

@CitizenBane said:

Depends on the location. Hope is limited to mutants in her immediate vicinity, Lori is not. She can take the powers of someone like Wonder Woman or Alan Scott even if they're on the other side of the planet and then make short work of Hope.

I think Lori is limited in range. When she reaches out for the dude in Platinum Flatts she had to focus. She wouldn't have time to do that here. Have't read her in a while though.

I posted some scans above of Alice borrowing powers from people who were nowhere in her vicinity both before and after the Birds moved into Platinum Flats.

@TDK_1997 said:

I think that either way this goes to Black Alice.

@CitizenBane: I saw them and remember them but it doesn't say where Fate or Adam or the others actually are. I don't remember her ever pulling powers from people on the other side of the planet. Alice probably wins here regardless. I'm just clarifying.