VS
Sylar
Location:
- Downtown Manhattan; Abandoned
Rules:
- Hope can only use the powers she has demonstrated thus far
- Sylar can only use the powers he has demonstarted thus far
- Neither can copy each others powers
- Character morals apply
With morals I'm unsure.
Sylar sort of had a Nathan Petrelli mind mesh and then spent years in his own head with Peter making him more of a fight at a greatly diminished capacity / do not kill your opponent kind of guy.
Although fight with Doyle he had was a bit weak considering his TK should have perfectly been able to kick Doyle's rear regardless of controlling Sylar's body.
@isaac_clarke: and his line, "do you think you can control me" then he defeated him ( i personally thought doyle should have won)Don't know why you would, he was bleeding from just holding Sylar back previously.
rogues powers failed on hope..why would they work on the characters that have the same powers?@theicon: She has Rogues powers....so touching wont be a good idea........ Sylar's Telekinesis is not unmatched. Hope can combat him with her own telekinesis
Although fight with Doyle he had was a bit weak considering his TK should have perfectly been able to kick Doyle's rear regardless of controlling Sylar's body.
sylar wins
- more ruthless
- while Hope may has as many powers as him, he knows how to use his better (knowing how things work is sorta his speciality)
-better use of telekinesis
@isaac_clarke said:The only time I remember him doing that is when he had a special blow his own brain out with said powers on the online comics, outside that I haven't or don't remember seeing him do it.doyles puppet master controls powers..Although fight with Doyle he had was a bit weak considering his TK should have perfectly been able to kick Doyle's rear regardless of controlling Sylar's body.
the comics are canon and he also took control of that deaf chicks powers in the last episode..did sylar use any power aginst doyle when he went against him the last time..no..so yeah........RCR is not an ability you turn on and off so......@Battle_Scarred_Shogun said:
@isaac_clarke said:The only time I remember him doing that is when he had a special blow his own brain out with said powers on the online comics, outside that I haven't or don't remember seeing him do it. Muchless prevent powers like Telekinesis, healing factors seem to work fine regardless of controlling them.doyles puppet master controls powers..Although fight with Doyle he had was a bit weak considering his TK should have perfectly been able to kick Doyle's rear regardless of controlling Sylar's body.
and alchemy wont work why? has hope desplayed any anti molecular manipulation powers...because i havent seen it
yes sylar has an abortion power didnt you know?
no she doesn't..sylar has hope in more ways than just a healing factor that lets him heal from nuclear level destruction. Uhmm if hope doesn't have a hf then getting her head sliced open will kill her....so apparently you do see him just out right killing her. Peter petrelli who was weaker than sylar with his TK ripped apart a steal bank vault....sylar has the power to cause objects molecules to break down....he can do more than damage hope when shes armored up
@Battle_Scarred_Shogun: Nah, imo, I dont think he would stomp her if he had every power he;s shown. Win? The majority or more maybe. Correct me if im wrong before, he was infected he had spragues ability, freezing, and some type of concussive blast ability among others. With these im sure he would beat hope but not in a stomp. Its the only reason why I didnt put her against Peter, because then it would be a stomp.The power to become a nuke? The ability to make ny object turn into a puddle? the ability to see the future? Yes he stomps.
No, I didnt take away rogues powers completely. I thought it would be obvious what I meant. Hope cant use Rogues powers to take Sylars abilities but she can use them to absorb his memories, knowledge or even personality if she wanted. And, still, if she holds on long enough, his life force.
Ok, true. But I still dont see him outright demolishing her with TK.
If youre talking about the Astonishing xmen #15 or something, the only reason why she was exhausted is because she flared her strength at beast to scare him off, using too much energy i guess. Beast didnt even get through her armour. And yes, I do think Colossus skin and armours armour is enough to fend of Sylar's TK. Armour has said her armour can shrug off bombs and its durable enough to take hits from Ord and his kind. Colossus is a no brainer
@isaac_clarke: he prevented clairs mom from usage of her power, the comic is canon also. and agent rachel Mills, who can teleport, shes in the comic, and was in a season 3 episode, the female agent that was trying to capture him and he nearly made her blow her brains out, she can teleport, but in that case did not. company sent, one of us , one of them teamsI don't remember him actually controlling said power.
@isaac_clarke said:Chick's powers seemed to work on their own as long as she played music.the comics are canon and he also took control of that deaf chicks powers in the last episode..did sylar use any power aginst doyle when he went against him the last time..no..so yeah........RCR is not an ability you turn on and off so......@Battle_Scarred_Shogun said:
@isaac_clarke said:The only time I remember him doing that is when he had a special blow his own brain out with said powers on the online comics, outside that I haven't or don't remember seeing him do it. Muchless prevent powers like Telekinesis, healing factors seem to work fine regardless of controlling them.doyles puppet master controls powers..Although fight with Doyle he had was a bit weak considering his TK should have perfectly been able to kick Doyle's rear regardless of controlling Sylar's body.
@buttersdaman000: ............................................. rogues powers wont work on sylar....the end. I'm justn going to say that instead of going into detail explaining how rogues powers involves absorbing powers and sitting here explaining why you siting here saying sylar cant counter rogues ability because it involves absorbing an abortion ability makes no sense,
@buttersdaman000: even if Hope used Collosus' power, ther'e's a way around it, in one of the "Heroes untold stories" (deleted scenes) sylar fought some one with impenetrable skins, he couldn't cut the man's head open, so he merely used his telekinesis to pull his brain out through the man's nose and mouth, so if Hope is invulnerable from the outside, she is still vulnerable insideFrom what I recall, Colossus is as durable as he is on the outside on the inside.
@theicon: Hope has shown the powers of: - Cyclops - Cable - Rogue - Colossus - Namor - Armour - Iceman - Bishop So Im pretty sure she can fight SylarShe has also used Phoenix Force, so that amps her greatly beyond what Sylar has ever done.
@Dark Cloud™: also hope will never be as efficent as Sylar , he maximizes every power he has, his power is to understand how things work! hope will never have such control or efficiency as Sylar, no matter how powerful she gets. Sylar with the phoenix force he would be more powerful than HopeHope using the Phoenix Force would prevent Sylar from living, that's a given feat.
@Dark Cloud™: incorrect Sylar healsSylar would not survive the onslaught of the Phoenix Force, no matter how powerful he gets. If he wanted to slice Hope open to gain the PF, he'd have to fight through it first.
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