#1 Edited by joeagentofhand1 (4362 posts) - - Show Bio
Amazing Spider-Man #696

Phil can use his maniac laugh and venom can vulk out.

Standard gear.

No prep and both teams are bloodlusted.

Win by death, KO, or incapacitation.

#2 Posted by Strider92 (16443 posts) - - Show Bio

Without Phil's laugh and bloodlust on I think either of team 2 have a chance of soloing. Venom due to durability and Kaine due to invisibility. Give Phil back his laugh then you have a fight!

#3 Posted by joeagentofhand1 (4362 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: I gave Phil his maniac laugh

#4 Posted by k4tzm4n (43553 posts) - - Show Bio

Without losing control, Venom really hasn't been all that impressive.  TBH I think Phil would best him even without the laugh.

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#5 Posted by Strider92 (16443 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: Even though Flash is Bloodlusted? I was under the impression his durability was pretty good when he was bloodlusted. Hence why I asked for Phils laugh to be reinstated.

#6 Posted by k4tzm4n (43553 posts) - - Show Bio
@Strider92 said:

@k4tzm4n: Even though Flash is Bloodlusted? I was under the impression his durability was pretty good when he was bloodlusted. Hence why I asked for Phils laugh to be reinstated.

If he "Vulks out" he's more durable.  The OP leads me to believe Flash is in control of the symbiote and motivated to kill his enemy.
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#7 Posted by Shawnbaby (10763 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't Bloodlusted Flash be all Vulked out? If he is then Phil's Laugh is going to be less effective on Venom. Kaine's suit gives him protection from the Lunatic Laugh and Stealth Capabilities...so he could potentially solo.

#8 Posted by Strider92 (16443 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@Strider92 said:

@k4tzm4n: Even though Flash is Bloodlusted? I was under the impression his durability was pretty good when he was bloodlusted. Hence why I asked for Phils laugh to be reinstated.

If he "Vulks out" he's more durable. The OP leads me to believe Flash is in control of the symbiote and motivated to kill his enemy.

I thought thats what Morals Off was? Wouldn't bloodlusted be all batsh*t crazy mad lol?

#9 Posted by k4tzm4n (43553 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess we'll see if the OP clarifies.  Usually Venom's "vulking out" isn't allowed in battles... which is understandable because we haven't really seen what it takes to drop him when he's in that mode.  Or at least no example immediately comes to mind.

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#10 Posted by Strider92 (16443 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: Well to be fair I think Phil with his standard gear and laugh would be a match for Brock Venom and I don't see Flash surpassing him.

#11 Posted by joeagentofhand1 (4362 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#12 Posted by shroudofsorrow (3163 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom and Kaine win, though its a much more hard fought win if Phil has his scream. Also, since symbiotes hate sonic vibrations, could Phil's laugh hurt the venom symbiote? Or is Phil's scream not sonic-based?

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#13 Posted by joeagentofhand1 (4362 posts) - - Show Bio

@shroudofsorrow said:

Venom and Kaine win, though its a much more hard fought win if Phil has his scream. Also, since symbiotes hate sonic vibrations, could Phil's laugh hurt the venom symbiote? Or is Phil's scream not sonic-based?

It really wrecked Venom when they fought and Venom is also weak to fire

#14 Posted by shroudofsorrow (3163 posts) - - Show Bio

@joeagentofhand1: So it is sonic based then? OK. When did Hobby and Agent Venom fight? Would it be too much to ask for scans?

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#15 Edited by Skaddix (3114 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom is weak to Fire and Sound. Phil should have Field Day.

#16 Posted by joeagentofhand1 (4362 posts) - - Show Bio

@shroudofsorrow said:

@joeagentofhand1: So it is sonic based then? OK. When did Hobby and Agent Venom fight? Would it be too much to ask for scans?

They fought in Venom Venom #16

Sorry but I can't really post the scans

#17 Posted by joeagentofhand1 (4362 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#18 Posted by Howard_Go (43 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaine would solo this.