Hobgoblin(Kingsley) and Phil Urich vs Venom and Kaine

Phil can use his maniac laugh and venom can vulk out.

Standard gear.

No prep and both teams are bloodlusted.

Win by death, KO, or incapacitation.

Without Phil's laugh and bloodlust on I think either of team 2 have a chance of soloing. Venom due to durability and Kaine due to invisibility. Give Phil back his laugh then you have a fight!

@Strider92: I gave Phil his maniac laugh

Without losing control, Venom really hasn't been all that impressive.  TBH I think Phil would best him even without the laugh.

@k4tzm4n: Even though Flash is Bloodlusted? I was under the impression his durability was pretty good when he was bloodlusted. Hence why I asked for Phils laugh to be reinstated.

@k4tzm4n: Even though Flash is Bloodlusted? I was under the impression his durability was pretty good when he was bloodlusted. Hence why I asked for Phils laugh to be reinstated.

Wouldn't Bloodlusted Flash be all Vulked out? If he is then Phil's Laugh is going to be less effective on Venom. Kaine's suit gives him protection from the Lunatic Laugh and Stealth Capabilities...so he could potentially solo.

@k4tzm4n said:

@Strider92 said:

@k4tzm4n: Even though Flash is Bloodlusted? I was under the impression his durability was pretty good when he was bloodlusted. Hence why I asked for Phils laugh to be reinstated.

If he "Vulks out" he's more durable. The OP leads me to believe Flash is in control of the symbiote and motivated to kill his enemy.

I thought thats what Morals Off was? Wouldn't bloodlusted be all batsh*t crazy mad lol?

I guess we'll see if the OP clarifies.  Usually Venom's "vulking out" isn't allowed in battles... which is understandable because we haven't really seen what it takes to drop him when he's in that mode.  Or at least no example immediately comes to mind.

@k4tzm4n: Well to be fair I think Phil with his standard gear and laugh would be a match for Brock Venom and I don't see Flash surpassing him.

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Venom and Kaine win, though its a much more hard fought win if Phil has his scream. Also, since symbiotes hate sonic vibrations, could Phil's laugh hurt the venom symbiote? Or is Phil's scream not sonic-based?

@shroudofsorrow said:

Venom and Kaine win, though its a much more hard fought win if Phil has his scream. Also, since symbiotes hate sonic vibrations, could Phil's laugh hurt the venom symbiote? Or is Phil's scream not sonic-based?

It really wrecked Venom when they fought and Venom is also weak to fire

@joeagentofhand1: So it is sonic based then? OK. When did Hobby and Agent Venom fight? Would it be too much to ask for scans?

Venom is weak to Fire and Sound. Phil should have Field Day.

@shroudofsorrow said:

@joeagentofhand1: So it is sonic based then? OK. When did Hobby and Agent Venom fight? Would it be too much to ask for scans?

They fought in Venom Venom #16

Sorry but I can't really post the scans

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Kaine would solo this.