Remember, I'm human, I don't know a lot of the characters here so if you feel something is overpriced or underpriced, or just doesn't belong, tell me.
Win by any condition except BFR, All characters will be staying on the battlefield.
The maps and missions may vary depending on the fairness of each persons team (If someone picks all Hulks, I won't put the match in space), However matches will be randomized, so plan accordingly.
No single prep device can beat Green Lantern. No single summon can beat New 52 Wonder Woman.
All prep cannot use Time manipulation of any kind.
No Reality Warping
Time can only be slowed, not frozen. Can only increase time to speeds of Lightspeed.
@higorm no stipulations, lets just go with the pre war. More to talk about, and more fun.
Ultimate Reed Richards. AKA The Maker.
Ultimate Reed Richards is the hero and villain of the 1610 Universe in Marvel. He is consider by many now after his role in Secrete Wars to be one of the smartest versions of reed Richards known. Starting off as a kid happy to preform experiments, love Sue, and doing the right thing. He quickly started to see life as a never ending cycle of good and evil, and decided to try and force everything into his view of harmony. Originally turning villain to save the Ultimate Universe from the likes of Dr. Doom and 616 Galactus, he fell into the side of villainy in the way he goes about to save everything. While good intentions at heart, he does things in the most efficient, and sometimes cold heart ways possible. He is also over 1000 years old, and surpass his own Marvel Zombie, and possibly 616 versions of himself in accomplishments and intelligence.
Reed's role will be the General and support guy more than anything with his versatile equipment.
Second Age Spawn
Spawn, Hells most powerful soldier, and Humanities greatest champion. Al Simmons was the greatest assassin in the Image comics world. What is more impressive he was all human, with no meta powers. He used his skill, weapons, and tactics to take out the most powerful Cyborgs, and Meta Humans in Image. However he was betrayed and kill, which in turn sent him straight to Hell who wanted to recruit him. This is the typical story of Simmons, however it does not end there. When resurrected, the Man of Miracles (Image's version of the OAA/Presence) put into this Spawn the souls of 6000 people who all died around the same time Spawn had. With this act the MoM ensured Spawn would be able to resist the control of Hell, and match in power the most powerful Hell Kings and Celestial Angels in the Image Universe. MoM further enhanced Spawn with power of the Earth itself, granting Spawn world level Empathy with all living creatures, sensing darkness/evil anywhere, and minor control of Earth's natural forces. The last gift MoM gave to Spawn before Armageddon was the access and knowledge of Spawns own personal Hell Spawn Army called the Legion. With all this Spawn was able to keep putting Hell in its place, as well saving the earth from God and Satan.
Acting magic specialist, and my heaviest hitter, as well another general.
Robot
Robot, the super genius who deals with science and tech, and currently rules the world after killing most of the other supers in it. He thinks faster than a super computer, and is able to multitask multiple suits of him self across the planet at the same time. His own knowledge in warfare, and science extend in the 100s of years when living in a alternate dimension of super tech beings known as Flaxans. the Flaxans themselves were a race that invaded several dimensions and enslaved worlds through their tech. Robot ends up taking the empire over, running, it, and in turn figuring out their tech for better suits that he made, suits that in time are able to match Invincible himself to some degree.
Robot Job is to be acting general, and add more support via equipment.
Prep
Now intros out of the way, what is this team going to do together? Well Spawn is not doing much of anything, however both Robot and Reed are. Robot has a large manufacturing base in space. Reed has the City. Both are products and outfitted with tech far far far beyond 616 or New 52 earth tech, and far beyond more then DBZ tech lol.
How do I access these areas during my prep on the battlefield? Using teleprt tech that allows them to access anything they want, while never leaving the battlefield.
Rex can open up doors anywhere, and even extends to other universes.
Like wise Reed is able to do the same with his mastery of n Zone tech that he develop.
In short both my characters have no need to leave the battlefield, and can get whatever they need for a fight. Now thanks to my teams full knowledge, your already at a lost. My team will know of your stats, powers, and gear. In turn Reed and crew will know how to prepare, and counter it.
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With Invincible Under The Sun protocols, City can build anything from it self that Reed needs. City was able to build a fully functioning Godzilla size Iron Man in seconds this way.
Since I cannot use time manipulation, the City will have to build everything for me itself out of itself, making a hour more than enough time. This includes The Hard Light Helmet.
Hard Light Helmet requires a strong power source to make hard light constructs of whatever Reed can think off. It was powerful enough to take on Ultimate Namor, one of the strongest beings on Ultimate marvel Earth, and that required only a couple power plants.
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For his helmet he will just power it with a star he will have City steal in his prep. Take no longer than a push of a button. He done this before to power up devices.
Next with full detail knowledge of both characters, he can have City calculate, and run what scenarios it need to construct the Zapper to specifically counter Majestic and Maxima.
These zappers Reed made time from time to one shot uber beings worked on Namor, and Silver Searchers mentally.
Reed will also have on hand thanks to non standard gear the use of Psy protection.
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it fully protects from world level Psy power as proven when the Thinker took Cerebro for herself, but fails to work on Technopthy. However Technopthy is something that been well countered afterward with recent Reed tech, and even in this instance he countered Technopathy with a thought virus.
Also part of non standard gear, Reed will have his army of bio bombs on stand by to teleport attack with.
Powerful living bombs that expand at super fast rates into Godzilla size blobs of destruction.
After this both Robot, Reed, and Spawn will play their acting generals parts. You notice I kept saying "General" for intros. Well this team has one major thing in common, the summons! all three are extensive users of armies they possess. In Reeds case its his Children, Herbies, and Bio Weapons. In Robot case its his army of Robots. In Spawns case its his Legion.
Lets start with the Children, there is three classes that make up his army.
You have these guys called Dynomos which are Spider man level at best, however they are numerous, and erect Energy Shields, as well can analyze foes for weaknesses.
You then have these super suit characters called Knives. They are roughly around Ultimate Iron man level, and more than a few can take Thor.
Then you have the Swords, which are more like mini mini Hulks. All around fire power to drop Helicarriers, and tank Iroman's and super suit Thor's better blows. If I were to judge how many of these beings make up Reeds army, I think a small force sent to deal with the Externals be a good number, there was roughly couple thousand of them. So most being Dynomos, and Knives seems right, with the occasional Sword.
Then we have Robot's armies.
Robot has currently built and produce around 50 suits that can nearly match Invincible.
Best part is he can with his technopathy manipulate and multitask with all these suits around the world and in space at the same time. Meanwhile Robot is operating on one of the suits on the field already, though it be hard to tell which one he is in with all these suits running around, and all the lifeforms that be around.
Finally spawn will summon Legion. What is Legion you ask?
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Legion is what makes Spawn so powerful to begin with. When Spawn died, he was imbued with the souls of 6,000 other people that died at that moment. Each of these souls granted knowledge and added power to Spawn. What makes them so special is toward the end of the series run, Spawn had learn to call upon these souls to fight for him.
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He shown 4 separate times to call upon his Hellspawn to kick a$$ for him. That is 6,000 Hellspawn, or Classic Spawn for those unaware of the difference, along with Spawn to end a foe. While only mid tier in power, they are still hard to kill, and pretty deadly in Necro power.
So now you see the big issue, you have a army of these beings to deal with now. Now I have all this, Prep is done.
Strategy and Opener
Spawn
Spawn will start off in his Shadow, and intangible form. Monitoring the battle till needed.
Robot
Robot will have all his Robots ready for the Majestic Speed blitz. They can, and will counter it, though they may not be needed at all.
Reed
Reed will have Hardlight Helm activated from the start, protecting himself and the rest with star powered force field. As soon the battle starts however, his City will have full access to produce Anti Matter Bombs, mini Black Hole boxes, and more Bio Bombs to teleport spam at your forces. thanks to the time flow in the city, and City itself able to assemble anything super quick, I will have a steady stream of these attacks.
Maxima once ruled a vast intergalactic empire centered on her homeworld of Almerac. For thousands of years, her ancestors had intermarried with races from other worlds, breeding for strength, for speed, and for power. Representing the apex of Almeracian eugenics, Maxima resolved to continue in the same tradition of her people. To that end, she became obsessed with expanding her galactic reach and, most importantly, securing a suitable mate to father an heir to her glorious realm.
Mr. Majestic is the WildStorm universe's "Superman". He is an alien warrior who has lived on Earth for centuries, often fighting alongside others of his race (as well as humans) against the Daemonites.
// Powers/Abilities \\
Kherubim Physiology - Mr. Majestic is part of a nearly immortal race of warriors known as the Kherubim.
Drahn Evolution - The Drahn(creatures capable of prompting evolution in creatures) allowed Majestic to become vastly more powerful than the rest of his kind, like Thor is for the Asgardians.
Super Strength - The ability to lift far in excess of 100 tons effortlessly. He has rearranged most of the planets in the solar system, stalemated Helspont (who is in Majestic's strength class), and has crushed graphite into diamonds in order to pay for a meal. He has also moved continents by sheer output of force from his body.
Super Speed - Majestic has the ability to travel at hundreds of times FTL (Faster Than Light) in space. On one occasion he flew across the entire universe (some 13.5 billion light years) in 4 months.
Superhuman Reflexes -Majestic possesses nano-second reaction time, as shown in his fight with Spartan Guards. He has also proved capable of viewing particles moving six times faster than the speed of light. He even appears to teleport (even by the eyes of superhumans) due to how fast he can react in combat.
Super Stamina - Majestic is almost unable to tire. Majestic does not require sustenance or rest.
Super Hearing - The ability to hear any sound at any volume or pitch. Majestic can pick a single voice in an entire city, hear every sound on Earth as it happens, and even hear screams in space, where there is no air for sound waves to travel through (meaning Majestic has a mental telepathy associated with sound).
Freeze Breath - The ability to freeze solid objects with his breath. Majestic was capable of freezing a ship while space with his super breath(meaning his breath had to have been hundreds of times colder than the coldness of space).
Invulnerability - Majestic's durability is almost equal to Superman's. Majestic has withstood a nuclear bomb and suffered no ill effects afterward.
Longevity - Majestic, being a Kherubim, is immune to all diseases, and is enormously long lived. Even the immortal lifetime of something like a vampire is nothing but a blink in the eye of Majestic's life span. Despite being thousands of years old, Majestic does age, albeit slowly.
Healing Factor - Majestic can heal from cuts, bruises, and even from being stabbed in the chest in seconds.
Flight - Can hover or fly in any direction via manipulation of gravitons (massless subatomic particles that carry the force of gravity).
Telescopic Vision - Can view things happening miles away as it happens.
Micro/Macro Vision -Can perceive things happening even on the subatomic level.
Electromagnetic Vision -The ability to perceive the entire electromagnetic spectrum, proven when he was capable of viewing gamma energy contained in a nuclear bomb.
X-Ray Vision -The ability to see through any object.
Heat Vision - Two red hot beams that Majestic controls at will. He can use them as minor lasers with which he can heal wounds, or he can make them be hotter in order to burn or melt through any substance.
Majestic will spend his time prepping at his home planet, Khera, which is the planet that all the Kherubim in the various Image and Wildstorm titles originate from. He will prep there because the Kherubim Technology is among the most advanced tech in the universe. The Kherubim held highly advanced technology that was so advanced that other races were driven to bankruptcy by trying to catch up to it. (WildC.A.T.s. v1 #24).
Considering the nature of his threat here, Majestic knows he must bring total force to overcome the enemy, which means he won't hold himself at this stage. 2 hours is more than enough time for someone who is able to build new tech from scratch in a matter of just nanoseconds. Then we have his ship at fully equipped, fortified with weapons and forcefield technology. It will have genetic bombs and weapons created for large-scale warfare and world take-overs, something the Kherubim race is used to do and use when conquering others. It should be noted that his ship is encased in Kherubim war-ware that shields it's occupants from tracking technology. (Majestic v2 #1)
Now, inside his ship, Majestros has access to a super computer, one computer system used by his people called the KheranDifference Engine, which isprogrammed with constant intelligence upgrade and is powered by a battery two galaxies away that possess the size of a small moon. These engine were is able to process simulations that equaled lifetimes and were able to examine other realities in the multiverse. (Captain Atom: Armageddon v1 #2). So try to imagine that kind of technology being used in a prep war where Majestic possess full knowledge on the enemy.
The Spartan Guard are robotic warmachines that were humanoid in form and programmed to revel in combat. They are fully sentient robots that are built as personal bodyguards as well as a police force on Khera. Each Spartan has a "brain" more powerful than any other computer (on Earth or otherwise), is programmed to be able to use any technology it comes across, is equipped with powerful lasers, is skilled in armed and unarmed combat, has superhuman levels of strength, speed and durability, superhuman senses, energy projection and posses the ability to fly.
Spartans are also capable of self-repair so they can mend themselves after battle. If the damage is too severe they can transmit their intelligence to other machines to stay alive. Spartan's connection with other machines is rather impressive. He can wirelessly connect with any computer system and bend it to his will. In an alternate future he showed himself to be adept at controlling hundreds of copies of himself in battle at once. Over the years Spartan has been upgraded many times and is even more powerful than he was originally.
These were considered examples of Kherubim wartech. In the centuries that followed their creation, the technology for Spartans had gradually evolved to be more advanced. Among the various models of Spartan Guards included the Platinum series who downloaded into their android bodies at the stables of their lords. The mission directive of these machines was typically to serve as peacekeepers. They were known to make use of semi-sentient drone craft that were able to serve as delivery systems in the battlefield. Another ground based vehicle were Dagger-bikes which had stealth capabilities making them invisible to the naked eye as well as the most advanced detections.
Majestic summons his spartan guards (all armed with kusar blades) and now he possess his own army, which will be responsible to combat yours. Spartans will take control of Robot and his army and use them to fight the Children and the Legion. Even if they get somehow compromised, they can always transmit their intelligence to other machines to stay alive and fighting, and with Robot providing that my army will prevail, it's just a matter of time until that happens. Maxima uses her powers to perform self duplication, create several copies of herself (all with force-fields), and she then starts to use TK at the molecular level to dismantle Robot as well as any creation he might have displayed. Then our machinery start the rumble, first with the Low-Grav Wallcrawler. It most resembles a normal Earth tank (with more cannons) but it can transform into an even bigger machine almost capable of going head to head with a Spartan Guard. These machines are semi-sentient, able to act on their own. Next to that we have bio-chemical weapons, one of which is the Haikyatu Armory. According to Emp it has two stages, the first is a bacteria bomb that destroys the nerve centers of all forms of life while keeping the bodies intact. The second stage reanimates and controls the bodies, creating an army of undead. (WildC.A.T.s v2 #1).
At the same time we have semi-sentient drones moving at the speed of light dropping nukes in your head.
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They will be also equipped, as well as the Spartans, with a weapon called the Genetic Concussion Grenades, which creates a blast radius where biological targets had their genetic structure destabilized thus warping their bodies leading to gruesome deaths, as seen in Nemesis v1 #1. In addition,as a covert warfare tactic, those drones will release damper capsules to remove (during 3 hours) any superhuman abilities from your teammates. (Majestic v2 #5)
If needed (in case your team survives all that), Majestic (invisible) uses his superior speed, strength and power to overcome both Spawn and Maker with his powers, starting with heat vision and ending with the creation blades if necessary, something your team can't deal with. Maxima then joins the party to help him finish the job while the spartan guards take care of your army.
Aftermath
The way I see it, Majestic possess a more effective high tech technology with superior weapon and army, able to strike your team with drones traveling at the speed of light while Mr. Majestic is free to attack your team with his Creation Blades that ignores energy shields, high-durability and basically any kind of defenses. He's too fast for your team to deal with.
Adds the help of Maxima and the multitude of her powers, one of them being used to neutralize Robot and his making with ease as soon the battle starts. She can still use mind-bolts against your Reed, even if he possess psychic defenses, cause this kind of powers works as a concussive force, able to neutralize Orion, regardless of all his physical strength and Mother Box enhanced defenses, Orion was quickly rendered paralyzed when Maxima turned this deadly power on him during the 'Panic In The Sky' event in Superman No. 65. At the conclusion of the same story arc in Superman No. 66, Maxima was in the process of killingBrainiac using this ability, but Superman intervened just before it was too late. Brainiac was still left in a lobotomized state. Also, can Reed prevent himself from being attacked in the Astral Plane?
So basically my team can match and even surpass your tech/prep since Majestic has more time to prepare himself and can do more during that time than your team combined, considering he possess nanosecond reaction speed. Especially when he is aware of the enemy capabilities in advance. In the other hand, your team can't deal with the Kherubim technology on top of fighting Mr. Majestic and Maxima at the same time. It's going to be a long battle but my team should emerge victorious in the end.
Majestic summons his spartan guards (all armed with kusar blades) and now he possess his own army, which will be responsible to combat yours. Spartans will take control of Robot and his army and use them to fight the Children and the Legion. Even if they get somehow compromised, they can always transmit their intelligence to other machines to stay alive and fighting, and with Robot providing that my army will prevail, it's just a matter of time until that happens.
Robot has IMO is pretty advance tech. Not only has his tech dominate every super being on Skybound earth at the same time, but his tech has allowed him to conquer and rule the Flaxan Race. This race is so advance that they made dimensional tech, time manipulation tech, and the ability to depower Viltrumites. They are super advance race of species, yet Robot with on the fly tech dominated their empire, and rules it for hundreds of years, adapting their tech into his own. Im not sold your by passing it when your own tech level which is is below that so far in capability.
Another question is numbers, how many of your guys is there? I know for Children is a couple thousand, 50 Robots, 6000 Hellspawn, 60 Sentinels. What numbers are you looking at for proof?
Maxima uses her powers to perform self duplication, create several copies of herself (all with force-fields), and she then starts to use TK at the molecular level to dismantle Robot as well as any creation he might have displayed.
How is she getting pass Reeds start powered Hard Light force field that I started the match with? Remember I just sitting back and chilling.
Then our machinery start the rumble, first with the Low-Grav Wallcrawler. It most resembles a normal Earth tank (with more cannons) but it can transform into an even bigger machine almost capable of going head to head with a Spartan Guard. These machines are semi-sentient, able to act on their own. Next to that we have bio-chemical weapons, one of which is the Haikyatu Armory. According to Emp it has two stages, the first is a bacteria bomb that destroys the nerve centers of all forms of life while keeping the bodies intact. The second stage reanimates and controls the bodies, creating an army of undead. (WildC.A.T.s v2 #1).
That is pretty cool. However, Reed is immune to molecule manipulation, has no bodily function, and immortal, not sure how a bacteria will harm him. Robot is sustain in his suit. Spawn and the Hell Spawn are made of magic Necro Plasma. So its seems a waste unless your talking about the Children who cured cancer in a year, and with unlimited time in the Dome that Reed has connection with, can counter that.
Reed countered a super virus that affected Wolverine of all people in a mere few hours.
I do not see this bacteria a issue really. Reed will have his City counter it in all .2 seconds. Till then everyone is safe in Reeds Force Field.
At the same time we have semi-sentient drones moving at the speed of light dropping nukes in your head.
They will be also equipped, as well as the Spartans, with a weapon called the Genetic Concussion Grenades, which creates a blast radius where biological targets had their genetic structure destabilized thus warping their bodies leading to gruesome deaths, as seen in Nemesis v1 #1. In addition,as a covert warfare tactic, those drones will release damper capsules to remove (during 3 hours) any superhuman abilities from your teammates. (Majestic v2 #5)
Again that is cool. Again Reed and my force are easily protected by a STAR POWERED FORCE FIELD. Unless your packing a Green Lantern Ring that can manipulate solar systems, your not hoping to scratch it.
If needed (in case your team survives all that), Majestic (invisible) uses his superior speed, strength and power to overcome both Spawn and Maker with his powers, starting with heat vision and ending with the creation blades if necessary, something your team can't deal with. Maxima then joins the party to help him finish the job while the spartan guards take care of your army.
Spawn is immune to whatever Majestic is putting out. Unless you have some real good hax, or holy powers, your fighting a hopeless battle against Spawn. Spawn in short wrecks Majestic by himself. Maker like wise would laugh off Majestic with the gear he has right now. Robot like wise can hang with all his suits for a time.
Aftermath
The way I see it, Majestic possess a more effective high tech technology with superior weapon and army, able to strike your team with drones traveling at the speed of light
I disagree. Majestic Tech is pretty good, but inferior by a large degree.
Robot Tech Level
Dimensional capability.
Create suits with minor Superman abilities.
Multiverse travel ability.
Psy ability through tech.
World level Technopathy ability.
Time Manipulation understanding.
This alone is what seems close to Majestic level. However Reed Tech breaks this level.
Reed Tech Level
Dimensional capability.
Create a army of super adapting super beings.
Multiverse travel ability.
Multiverse documenting ability.
World busting ability.
Harness energies of Big Bang ability.
Steal Stars from universes ability.
Psy ability through tech.
World level Technopathy ability.
Time Manipulation and Travel ability.
Manipulation of Black Holes ability.
Hacking and Computer tech that affects or resists Infinity Gems in ability.
Yeah majestic tech shows anything on this scale? Nope.... not at all.
while Mr. Majestic is free to attack your team with his Creation Blades that ignores energy shields, high-durability and basically any kind of defenses. He's too fast for your team to deal with.
I like to see proof they ignore energy shields, and I question if can get through Reeds since it is as powerful as a sun. Unless it cut through solid shields of that power level, it cant do it, other wise your applying No limits Fallacy logic which is bad debating.
Even the energy shields of Reed tank multiple Blows from world breaking Thor's like nothing. What is the best thing the Creation Blades cut through again? So I will wait for you to counter this with solid proof of something rather than NLF argument. If you can, then I will counter this.
Adds the help of Maxima and the multitude of her powers, one of them being used to neutralize Robot and his making with ease as soon the battle starts.
She can still use mind-bolts against your Reed, even if he possess psychic defenses, cause this kind of powers works as a concussive force, able to neutralize Orion, regardless of all his physical strength and Mother Box enhanced defenses, Orion was quickly rendered paralyzed when Maxima turned this deadly power on him during the 'Panic In The Sky' event in Superman No. 65. At the conclusion of the same story arc in Superman No. 66, Maxima was in the process of killingBrainiac using this ability, but Superman intervened just before it was too late. Brainiac was still left in a lobotomized state. Also, can Reed prevent himself from being attacked in the Astral Plane?
The Mind Bolt is not powerful enough, as I showed above off Reed's personal Force Field has tank comfortably far worse mate. Also not sure how well she is going to do all this when Reed drops hordes of Anti Matter bombs on her positions via teleports.
Followed by mini Black Holes.
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His Teleport Tech allows for something akin to a black hole when it becomes unstable. Stated as a mini black hole in the second scan by SHIELD. Last scan shows Reed using this ability to drag Galactus himself out of the Ultimate Universe with a more controlled one.
Then he can spam Bio Bombs to attack her.
As I showed already these things are powerful enough to wreck cities, and smash apart nuclear explosion level buildings.
So I dont see the duplicates, or Maxima herself taking all this, or at the least being heavily distracted to use her powers from this gauntlet.
So basically my team can match and even surpass your tech/prep since Majestic has more time to prepare himself and can do more during that time than your team combined, considering he possess nanosecond reaction speed.
Im sorry, I was chuckling to myself. Im not sure how you can say he has more time to prepare, the fact is Reed tech is already above Majestic, in every way. Robot matches. Thanks to my perk of Full Knowledge, I already know everything about your characters, and how to prepare and counter. Then when the match starts, Reed's time Dome of his base, with City analyzing, and countering any issues Reed encounters. Also for all his tech, Majestic has no real way to deal with Spawn.
Especially when he is aware of the enemy capabilities in advance. In the other hand, your team can't deal with the Kherubim technology on top of fighting Mr. Majestic and Maxima at the same time. It's going to be a long battle but my team should emerge victorious in the end.
I think after comparing simple notes of tech capability, I ended up shooting ya down on who has better tech. Im not sure what keeps Reed from one shotting majestic base on what I stated in my prep already, which you have not even countered yet. I will wait till next post.
Robot has IMO is pretty advance tech. Not only has his tech dominate every super being on Skybound earth at the same time, but his tech has allowed him to conquer and rule the Flaxan Race. This race is so advance that they made dimensional tech, time manipulation tech, and the ability to depower Viltrumites. They are super advance race of species, yet Robot with on the fly tech dominated their empire, and rules it for hundreds of years, adapting their tech into his own. Im not sold your by passing it when your own tech level which is is below that so far in capability.
That's not impressive if compared to the Spartan Guards. You see, they are a byproduct of the Kherubim Technology, the same tech that lead them to the creation of the Dream Engine, which is capable of warp reality to make thoughts and dreams real. We are talking about a race with millennia years of existance. Majestic for example was a full warlord 3000+ years ago. Not to mention that the Spartans possess constant evolving, and I'm using the Platinum series, the last version before they got upgraded with Void powers, which would be too much for your team to handle since it would put them at Mr. Majestic level of power.
Another question is numbers, how many of your guys is there? I know for Children is a couple thousand, 50 Robots, 6000 Hellspawn, 60 Sentinels. What numbers are you looking at for proof?
Mr. Majestic can bring as much as he needs/want to, they remain in stasis inside capsule ready to be activated and fight.
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There's no real number, in matter of fact he can just have his ship sending them to the battlefield. Since I possess full knowledge it could be said that I'm aware of your numbers so I can bring as much units as you or double that number for example, but I guess even half of your numbers would suffice.
> Star Powered Force-Field
How is she getting pass Reeds start powered Hard Light force field that I started the match with? Remember I just sitting back and chilling.
That's not a problem for Mr. Majestic. Next scans you will see him flying into the heart of a solitary start, to preform ancient chants/rituals/equations (subsequently becoming one with the cosmos for a brief moment), and then the it's transformed into a binary sun:
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This is a confirmation that he fixed the entire solar system:
This basically means that your star powered force-field means nothing to him. He will just blitz right through it and slice your team with his Creation Blades effortlessly! Not to mention that with his heat-vision he can just alter the entire structure of your energy-based shielding. Majestic was able to alter Jupiter's entire atomic makeup. The same heat vision allowed him to reprogram Eradicator (inside fortress armor) in the middle of their fight. His heat vision is as hot as the sun (he basically created a new sun using his heat-vision) so I doubt your force-field would be able to sustain such power.
> High-tech Warfare
Again that is cool. Again Reed and my force are easily protected by a STAR POWERED FORCE FIELD. Unless your packing a Green Lantern Ring that can manipulate solar systems, your not hoping to scratch it.
Nice to see you talking about solar systems, i've just presented a feat where Majestic rearranges the entire solar system. Check these scans for a better understanding:
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> Majestic vs Spawn
Spawn is immune to whatever Majestic is putting out. Unless you have some real good hax, or holy powers, your fighting a hopeless battle against Spawn. Spawn in short wrecks Majestic by himself. Maker like wise would laugh off Majestic with the gear he has right now. Robot like wise can hang with all his suits for a time.
The way you talk about Spawn it looks like I'm dealing with the Hell King version, which I'm not. This is Second Age Spawn which means not his most powerfull version, so i'm fairly confident Majestros can take him out. Spawn lacks operational speed to contend with Majestic here. If there's someone who can properly deal with Spawn is him, he possess more time to prepare himself for this battle and everything he needs at disposal so if in order to win he needs to build a super necroplasma absorber that's exactly what he's going to do to win. You can't say this is PIS or whatever because he did it in the past as already proven by feats.
> Tech Level
Dimensional capability.
Create a army of super adapting super beings.
Multiverse travel ability.
Multiverse documenting ability.
World busting ability.
Harness energies of Big Bang ability.
Steal Stars from universes ability.
Psy ability through tech.
World level Technopathy ability.
Time Manipulation and Travel ability.
Manipulation of Black Holes ability.
Hacking and Computer tech that affects or resists Infinity Gems in ability.
Yeah majestic tech shows anything on this scale? Nope.... not at all.
How can you say that? You are implying something without having proper knowledge about it. Majestic has done all that before with ease.
Dimensional Capability - The Kherubim race have ships built (or more accurately "grown") for interstellar flight and in some cases, faster than light travel. Most Kherubim ships are able to access and travel The Bleed, allowing them to visit other dimensions. In addition, in issue #4 of Majestic first solo series, he gathered some pre-dimensional star-stuff from Otherspace to power the body of the robot he was to place Majestrate’s mind into.
Army of Super-Adapting beings - Yes, as you can see I have the Spartan Guards posing as my army for this battle.
Multiverse-travel ability - Aside from the kherubim ships capability of traveling through dimensions, Majestic himself perfomed the same ability own his on at his second solo series (2005).
Multiverse documenting ability - As already presented, with the Kheran Difference Engine he can process simulations that equaled lifetimes and were able to examine other realities in the multiverse. (Captain Atom: Armageddon v1 #2)
Steal Stars from universes ability - He certainly can but he doesn't need to as already proved with scans, the guy can just create one out of his heat vision.
Psy ability through tech - He possess psychic abilities without that, so I guess that makes him superior huh?
Time Manipulation and Travel Ability - You are being redundant, at this point it's clear that travel is pretty basic for him. As for time manipulation, that has been done by him before as well, it happened in his second solo series (2005) where he performed many trip through time and dimensions. The time-loop incident also shows he has access to tech that counters reality warpers with time manipulation.
Manipulation of black holes - Majestic used a sleeping star to ressurect his son from the dead and the result was a black hole, he used the tech at disposal to get rid of it the same way he created it. So he knows about it, how to create or erase it.
Hacking and Computer tech that affects or resists Infinity Gems in ability - This is ridiculous since there's not such thing as Infinity Gems in Majestic universe. Regardless, Majestic and his super computer possess the ability to tap into every computer across the galaxy and not only that, he can access every computer on every planet, which includes 73 alternate earths, this is the level of tech you are dealing with.
> Energy Shields
I like to see proof they ignore energy shields, and I question if can get through Reeds since it is as powerful as a sun. Unless it cut through solid shields of that power level, it cant do it, other wise your applying No limits Fallacy logic which is bad debating.
So your big plan is to use a energy based shield to stop someone who possess a single blade capable of absorbing the heat of a thousand suns? I've just presented a bunch of feats where shows Majestic reaching the sun level with his power, your shields means nothing to him, especially with prep and full knowledge. So the creation blades being able to ignore a reality warper isn't enough to get past energy shields? So this feat doesn't count just because you want to call it NLF logic? That's your argument? Come on..
If necessary Majestic can just scan through your shields with his spectro vision and in a matter of nanoseconds come up with a device to counter it, how about that?
> Maxima
The Mind Bolt is not powerful enough, as I showed above off Reed's personal Force Field has tank comfortably far worse mate. Also not sure how well she is going to do all this when Reed drops hordes of Anti Matter bombs on her positions via teleports.
So I dont see the duplicates, or Maxima herself taking all this, or at the least being heavily distracted to use her powers from this gauntlet.
It was powerfull enough for Orion/Motherbox and Brainiac so it should be enough to Reed as well. Show me a feat where he tanks a mind-bolt with that amount of power. In addition, Maxima can teleport so I don't see how your attack will come close to her. Not to mention that you won't have a force-field in the first place since Majestros can neutralize it with ease.
> Prep-time!
Im sorry, I was chuckling to myself. Im not sure how you can say he has more time to prepare, the fact is Reed tech is already above Majestic, in every way. Robot matches. Thanks to my perk of Full Knowledge, I already know everything about your characters, and how to prepare and counter. Then when the match starts, Reed's time Dome of his base, with City analyzing, and countering any issues Reed encounters. Also for all his tech, Majestic has no real way to deal with Spawn.
Let me help you with that..
You have Hour of Prep On the Battlefield, while I possess 2h prep at a place of choosing, so according to math 2 > 1.
Not to mention that Majestic possess far superior operational speed which means he can do a lot more in two hours than you in one. I remember you saying something about bad debating, but then you come with this argument "I already know everything about your character and how to prepare and counter". Seriously? I'm not sure you know this but I have the same full knowledge perk so you hold no advantage here mate, and as explained my team can do more with the given time.
> Aftermath #2
I think after comparing simple notes of tech capability, I ended up shooting ya down on who has better tech. Im not sure what keeps Reed from one shotting majestic base on what I stated in my prep already, which you have not even countered yet. I will wait till next post.
You failed to prove your tech is superior, Majestic has done all those thing you named before. Reed one shotting Majestic with what? Your team can't deal with his level of speed, his army is superior, you have no answer for the creation blades, or Maxima using TK to dismantle your entire tech from the start. As proved, Majestic can easily neutralize your force-fields and cut your heads off after a speed blitz.
That's not impressive if compared to the Spartan Guards. You see, they are a byproduct of the Kherubim Technology, the same tech that lead them to the creation of the Dream Engine, which is capable of warp reality to make thoughts and dreams real. We are talking about a race with millennia years of existance. Majestic for example was a full warlord 3000+ years ago. Not to mention that the Spartans possess constant evolving, and I'm using the Platinum series, the last version before they got upgraded with Void powers, which would be too much for your team to handle since it would put them at Mr. Majestic level of power.
Reality Warping is nothing new to Reed Richards, who has shown better reality warping feats. Regardless Robot still shown the ability to traverse Dimensions, and Universes, and manipulate time with his tech. The Dream Engine done this? If not its limited, regardless warping reality, to what Robot has.
Also your claim they are Majestic level is a empty claim unless they have feats close to him, and they don't from what I researched. Their feats are less than Invincible which Robot suits handle fine. Heck i place the Children Reed has as mostly equals to your robot army by feats. Unless you can show feats of this claim they are majestic level. I like to see a single Spartan Drone move planets, or take down Captain Atom like being by itself.
Mr. Majestic can bring as much as he needs/want to, they remain in stasis inside capsule ready to be activated and fight.
There's no real number, in matter of fact he can just have his ship sending them to the battlefield. Since I possess full knowledge it could be said that I'm aware of your numbers so I can bring as much units as you or double that number for example, but I guess even half of your numbers would suffice.
Ah, a No Limits Fallacy argument. I love it. You have a infinite number of units. Well I could say the same about The Children, but I was realistic. Your just going for NLF on the numbers. That wont look good for votes.
> Star Powered Force-Field
That's not a problem for Mr. Majestic. Next scans you will see him flying into the heart of a solitary start, to preform ancient chants/rituals/equations (subsequently becoming one with the cosmos for a brief moment), and then the it's transformed into a binary sun:
What does this have to do with the energy making a solid force field? Nothing. Your using some vague feat of some ritual in a sun as proof? I mean Thor can fly in the sun, but 5 of him could not bust Reed's normal force field..... your using terrible logic to counter something you cant.
This is a confirmation that he fixed the entire solar system:
This basically means that your star powered force-field means nothing to him. He will just blitz right through it and slice your team with his Creation Blades effortlessly! Not to mention that with his heat-vision he can just alter the entire structure of your energy-based shielding. Majestic was able to alter Jupiter's entire atomic makeup. The same heat vision allowed him to reprogram Eradicator (inside fortress armor) in the middle of their fight. His heat vision is as hot as the sun (he basically created a new sun using his heat-vision) so I doubt your force-field would be able to sustain such power.
So he moves some planets one at a time, and that makes him by pass the power of a star? Stars that make planets, and hold them together by gravity alone?
Do you see the size difference? The energy to move a planet, with effort on Majestic end, to the Star that burns for over a billion years? Really, this is your logic? Im not sure what to say..... moving on I guess, there is no debiting this kind of counter argument. not without sounding condescending at least.
> High-tech Warfare
Nice to see you talking about solar systems, i've just presented a feat where Majestic rearranges the entire solar system. Check these scans for a better understanding:
All you showed was majestic needing lots of time, and prep to move a planet at a time. The scan above states it took YEARS to do this. Reed harness the power of a star from another Universe with a press of the button.
> Majestic vs Spawn
The way you talk about Spawn it looks like I'm dealing with the Hell King version, which I'm not. This is Second Age Spawn which means not his most powerfull version, so i'm fairly confident Majestros can take him out. Spawn lacks operational speed to contend with Majestic here. If there's someone who can properly deal with Spawn is him, he possess more time to prepare himself for this battle and everything he needs at disposal so if in order to win he needs to build a super necroplasma absorber that's exactly what he's going to do to win. You can't say this is PIS or whatever because he did it in the past as already proven by feats.
Second Age Spawn is immune to damage unless you harm him enough that his 9999 Necro drops. So what are you going to do to drop him before Spawn takes Majestic out easy?
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Spawn can literally remain intangible to attacks as a shadow thanks to his connection to the Black.
So not only he can reform from any initial attack you have fine, he can remain intangible. As for countering Majestic, Spawn has many ways.
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Soul destroying.
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World level TP/Empathy attacks.
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Time Manipulation to slow Majestic for easy counter attacks. Also in this feat Spawn was reading, and hearing every person thoughts on earth at the same time.
> Tech Level
How can you say that? You are implying something without having proper knowledge about it. Majestic has done all that before with ease.
Dimensional Capability - The Kherubim race have ships built (or more accurately "grown") for interstellar flight and in some cases, faster than light travel. Most Kherubim ships are able to access and travel The Bleed, allowing them to visit other dimensions. In addition, in issue #4 of Majestic first solo series, he gathered some pre-dimensional star-stuff from Otherspace to power the body of the robot he was to place Majestrate’s mind into.
Thats Robot level, ok.
Army of Super-Adapting beings - Yes, as you can see I have the Spartan Guards posing as my army for this battle.
By feats inferior to Robot's robots. Waiting on those feats.
Multiverse-travel ability - Aside from the kherubim ships capability of traveling through dimensions, Majestic himself perfomed the same ability own his on at his second solo series (2005).
You mean when he was trap in DC universe? Needed help to get back to his universe?
Multiverse documenting ability - As already presented, with the Kheran Difference Engine he can process simulations that equaled lifetimes and were able to examine other realities in the multiverse. (Captain Atom: Armageddon v1 #2)
Cool, too bad Reed as a child did this. Not a ancient year old race to attain the same.
merging with the Cosmos means what? How did he use this? As far as i can tell, its vague story telling, with no pay off. At least Reed harness and focus energies of a Universe coming to being. Thousand Sons means what to that? Nothing.
Steal Stars from universes ability - He certainly can but he doesn't need to as already proved with scans, the guy can just create one out of his heat vision.
You mean he can create a mini star, not comparable to the sun, and still needed material of his universe, a plent, to do it. While Reed is able to pull a Star from another Universe as a simple source of energy.... yeah, totally comparable.
Psy ability through tech - He possess psychic abilities without that, so I guess that makes him superior huh?
Who has Psy abilities? Not Majestic, I never seen him use it or dominate anyone's mind in the battle forums. What crap your making up now? his own wiki pages make no mention of this. Also has he mimic the psy powers through tech or not?
Time Manipulation and Travel Ability - You are being redundant, at this point it's clear that travel is pretty basic for him. As for time manipulation, that has been done by him before as well, it happened in his second solo series (2005) where he performed many trip through time and dimensions. The time-loop incident also shows he has access to tech that counters reality warpers with time manipulation.
im redundant how? When has Majestic Time Travel in any way? Also did Majestic made this tech or already had it from others? Reed made his own time tech with no help. Making him smarter still.
Manipulation of black holes - Majestic used a sleeping star to ressurect his son from the dead and the result was a black hole, he used the tech at disposal to get rid of it the same way he created it. So he knows about it, how to create or erase it.
so again, majestic needed a Star already to make a black hole, while Reed makes them out of thin air. Got it.
Hacking and Computer tech that affects or resists Infinity Gems in ability - This is ridiculous since there's not such thing as Infinity Gems in Majestic universe. Regardless, Majestic and his super computer possess the ability to tap into every computer across the galaxy and not only that, he can access every computer on every planet, which includes 73 alternate earths, this is the level of tech you are dealing with.
Again not impressed. Accessing computers, to even alternate world means little when nothing about the feat shows hacking anything relevant. I still feel tech that shut downs world level Technopathy, or the Technopathic abilities of a Infinity Gem higher by a lot.
> Energy Shields
So your big plan is to use a energy based shield to stop someone who possess a single blade capable of absorbing the heat of a thousand suns? I've just presented a bunch of feats where shows Majestic reaching the sun level with his power, your shields means nothing to him, especially with prep and full knowledge. So the creation blades being able to ignore a reality warper isn't enough to get past energy shields? So this feat doesn't count just because you want to call it NLF logic? That's your argument? Come on..
Reality Warpers mean little when Reality Warping powers VARY on scale. You would not compare Domino with her reality warping luck powers to Franklin Richards.
Your saying it can absorb a 1000 suns, can i see that feat? Sounds like hyperbole like Sentry has the power of million exploding sons lol. Proof or empty claims. At least I showed scans and proof. Not BS claims mate.
If necessary Majestic can just scan through your shields with his spectro vision and in a matter of nanoseconds come up with a device to counter it, how about that?
Proof he can counter it? By this sad logic I can argue Reed's Children and City in their slow time Dome scan, and developed counters to anything Majestic does. See how that empty claim BS works both ways lol.
Feats > Claims
> Maxima
It was powerfull enough for Orion/Motherbox and Brainiac so it should be enough to Reed as well. Show me a feat where he tanks a mind-bolt with that amount of power. In addition, Maxima can teleport so I don't see how your attack will come close to her. Not to mention that you won't have a force-field in the first place since Majestros can neutralize it with ease.
Show me braniac and the Mother Box tanking five blood lusted Thors worth of power? Like nothing. How about that before trying to ask for proof of what I showed. As for majestic, you still showed no counter to the Hard Light shield. At all. Well you did have a lot of hyper bole claims, arguments that have nothing to do with the science applied, and NLF arguments, sure then, you countered my arguments.
> Prep-time!
Let me help you with that..
You have Hour of Prep On the Battlefield, while I possess 2h prep at a place of choosing, so according to math 2 > 1.
Im sorry, your applying this "math" as proof? Reed has better feats, and with less time. I have 2 great preppers to your 1. So by your flawed math I have 2 > 1. Seriously mate, are you taking this serious?
Not to mention that Majestic possess far superior operational speed which means he can do a lot more in two hours than you in one. I remember you saying something about bad debating, but then you come with this argument "I already know everything about your character and how to prepare and counter". Seriously? I'm not sure you know this but I have the same full knowledge perk so you hold no advantage here mate, and as explained my team can do more with the given time.
not true at at all. Reed Gear he already has on him is enough to counter anything you have, and when the match starts, he has access to the Time Dome and City, which grants him unlimited prep pretty much to bring to the battle as needed. also Reed City can build everything he needs in seconds with assembly abilities as I showed. Reed already possess the tech your entire Empire that Majestic has as a child. Reed in turn can stretch his brain to solve any problem.
He can also create duplicates of himself to work on problems with himself.
He is smarter by far.
> Aftermath #2
You failed to prove your tech is superior, Majestic has done all those thing you named before. Reed one shotting Majestic with what? Your team can't deal with his level of speed, his army is superior, you have no answer for the creation blades, or Maxima using TK to dismantle your entire tech from the start. As proved, Majestic can easily neutralize your force-fields and cut your heads off after a speed blitz.
I prove my tech is better, and most of your retaliation is empty claims, and hyperbole. heck, some things you argued were still inferior to what Reed did, and honestly all you showed is to be slightly above Robot, if not still un par. Then add in how outclass Maxima and Majestic is to Spawn alone, Im not sure how your team can hope to win. they are very limited, and not versatile at all.
Reality Warping is nothing new to Reed Richards, who has shown better reality warping feats. Regardless Robot still shown the ability to traverse Dimensions, and Universes, and manipulate time with his tech. The Dream Engine done this? If not its limited, regardless warping reality, to what Robot has.
Also your claim they are Majestic level is a empty claim unless they have feats close to him, and they don't from what I researched. Their feats are less than Invincible which Robot suits handle fine. Heck i place the Children Reed has as mostly equals to your robot army by feats. Unless you can show feats of this claim they are majestic level. I like to see a single Spartan Drone move planets, or take down Captain Atom like being by itself.
The Dream Engine does anything you so desires. It warps reality to make thoughts and dreams real, so I don't know from where you think it has limitations. I also fail to see how those achievements will help him in a battle, I mean so what if he can traverse dimensions or not? Manipulate time? He can't do it here, so I'm not sure how all that will help him in a combat situation.
I never said they were at the same level of Majestic, I said I was using the latest version of the Spartan Guards, before one of them manage to obtain the powers from the Void. After this upgrade the Spartan became much more powerfull and was able to contend with Majestic. But since you asked for feats, here they are..
Majestic Vol 2, #05 - Dark Days And Daemon Nights:
*Sorry but I had to use those links because there's too much scans to post here. Special thanks to @mr_ingenuity for the scans.
Ah, a No Limits Fallacy argument. I love it. You have a infinite number of units. Well I could say the same about The Children, but I was realistic. Your just going for NLF on the numbers. That wont look good for votes.
It may look like a NLF but it's not. It's not my fault if Majestic can bring as much as he wants, no limits were stipulated in comics. That's why I said I could agree on bringing the exact same number of units you brought. I even said I could bring less such is my confidence on their capabilities.
> Star Powered Force-Field
What does this have to do with the energy making a solid force field? Nothing. Your using some vague feat of some ritual in a sun as proof? I mean Thor can fly in the sun, but 5 of him could not bust Reed's normal force field..... your using terrible logic to counter something you cant.
I'm using those feats to show what Mr. Majestic can accomplish with his heat vision. I'm sure that after a quick scan he will be able to neutralize it. Not sure why you bring Thor to this discussion since Ultimate Thor is weaker than his 616 counterpart and five of them doesn't put them on the same level of strength of Majestic. Not to mention that he's not going to pound the force-field with his hands, he's going to blast it with his heat-vision. So who is using terrible logic after all?
So he moves some planets one at a time, and that makes him by pass the power of a star? Stars that make planets, and hold them together by gravity alone? Do you see the size difference? The energy to move a planet, with effort on Majestic end, to the Star that burns for over a billion years? Really, this is your logic? Im not sure what to say..... moving on I guess, there is no debiting this kind of counter argument. not without sounding condescending at least.
Once again, not sure why you bring all that since Majestic isn't using his strength to move planets or whatever. What's that has to do with the force-field? Majestic is either using his heat-vision or building a device from scratch to counter it, something he has done before as already proven by feats. Either way my team get pass through your shields regardless of planet moving feats or not.
All you showed was majestic needing lots of time, and prep to move a planet at a time. The scan above states it took YEARS to do this. Reed harness the power of a star from another Universe with a press of the button.
So what? Majestic physically (for the most part) rearranged the entire solar system, from asteroids and moon to planets and the sun. He doesn't had great amounts of prep to do it, for the most part he just used his brains and vision to analyze the situation and then get the job done without much help.
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This whole prep war is about who can effectively apply tech in a combat situation. It doesn't matter if Reed can harness the power of a star from another Universe with a press of the button, Majestic doesn't need it in order to win, my team isn't using a force-field so I fail to see what you want to accomplish with that. They only thing I need to do is prove my character can get through it, and if I succeed in that all your high end prep feats will be useless.
> Majestic vs Spawn
Second Age Spawn is immune to damage unless you harm him enough that his 9999 Necro drops. So what are you going to do to drop him before Spawn takes Majestic out easy?
How can Spawn even tag Majestic in the first place? Majestros is leagues above in terms of speed. Show me a scan where Spawn manage to tag someone that fast..
So not only he can reform from any initial attack you have fine, he can remain intangible. As for countering Majestic, Spawn has many ways.1- Soul destroying. 2- World level TP/Empathy attacks. 3- Time Manipulation
1. You can't mess the sould of my team because they have protection against it via perks.
2. Majestic possess psionic protection, as well as psychic training to resist mental assaults.
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Keep in mind the Daemonites are not only physical beings that take possession of host bodies but they manipulate the mental effects of the beings as well. Not limited to only understanding the thoughts of each other or their hosts they can extend this ability to a wide range and even track targets by their mental signature. Most Daemonites are connected by a central mind which they do not need to focus to maintain. Mr. Majestic resisted the attempts of at least 7 Daemonites trying to take him over psychically. Not to mention that since my team possess full knowledge Majestic can just come to this battle with mental protection.
3. Time Manipulation is against the rules, and no scans were presented to support this claim. Has Spawn ever used time manipulation against someone as fast as Majestros?
So basically has no effective ways to deal with Majestic in this fight. On the other hand I'm sure Majestros can deliver enough damage on him with his creation blades to put him out for good.
> Energy Shields
Reality Warpers mean little when Reality Warping powers VARY on scale. You would not compare Domino with her reality warping luck powers to Franklin Richards. Your saying it can absorb a 1000 suns, can i see that feat? Sounds like hyperbole like Sentry has the power of million exploding sons lol. Proof or empty claims. At least I showed scans and proof. Not BS claims mate.
Yeah that could be an argument if we were talking about a random featless reality warper, but this is not the case here, I'm talking about Tao, the reality warper that was manipulating powerhouses like Mr. Majestic, Jackson King, Void and others like Grifter for example, he even manipulated the Spartan android, all from distance without them even knowing about it, all that before having his powers upgraded by absorbing both Void and Providence powers. Yet Majestic manage to ignore his powers by using the creation blades..
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> Maxima
Show me braniac and the Mother Box tanking five blood lusted Thors worth of power? Like nothing. How about that before trying to ask for proof of what I showed. As for majestic, you still showed no counter to the Hard Light shield. At all. Well you did have a lot of hyper bole claims, arguments that have nothing to do with the science applied, and NLF arguments, sure then, you countered my arguments.
Since when five bloodlusted Thor means that much? As already said, Ultimate version are inferior to the 616 counterpart, five of them doesn't mean much to be honest. Not to mention that I was talking about mind-bolts and not pure physical strikes, that's a big difference there. So I've proved how powerfull and devastating her power can be while your best feat is saying five weaker Thors failed to breach your shields, great logic. Stop acusing me and start proving how great is your shield with actual substantial feats.
> Prep-Time
Im sorry, your applying this "math" as proof? Reed has better feats, and with less time. I have 2 great preppers to your 1. So by your flawed math I have 2 > 1. Seriously mate, are you taking this serious?
So far the feats presented doesn't indicate your team can win this fight, simply because most of them are conceptual showings rather than real applications. Which means Majestic possess more realistic feats in terms of battle. For example, your best force-field feat was having the shield taking hits from a combination of 5 Thors from the Ultimate reality that are a weaker version of the character, which means leagues weaker than Majestic. All to prove your shields are great when I'm not even using blunt force in the first place.
Aftermath #3
That's why I believe that my team will emerge victorious. As proven, Spawn can't do much here considering Majestic speed and immunity to soul rape and TP defenses. Reed shields can be neutralized either with tech, heat-vision or creation blades. The Spartan Guards can take over the Robot army with technopaty or Maxima can just dismantle them with her TK at the molecular level. At the end of the day we will have Ultimate Reed Richards fighting alone in a hopeless battle where he can't deal with such a powerfull enemy.
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