High Tier Trny: High vs Easternwind(HIGH WINS!)

DEATH MATCH!!!!!

Win By Death, KO, or Major Incap

@highaccuser

Characters: 10(Plus 6 Extra from the store)

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• Brainwave jr.(3)
• Larfleeze(6)
• Wally West(6)
• Citizen Steel(1)

Perks:15

• 6 extra character points(15)

VS.

@easternwind

Characters: 10(Plus Extra 6)

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• Loki (5)
• Broly (5)
• Bills (6)

Perks:

• Extra Character points (6) 15

Battlefield:

High = Black Star

Eastern = Red Star

Map is 100 Miles x 100 Miles

Teams Start 90 Miles Apart

Do Not Cross The Black Line During Prep

Do Not Leave During Prep(Teleporting or Summoning In Stuff Is Allowed)

Must Start Battle From Starting Postilions

Rules:

@highaccuser vs @easternwind GO GO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Two Weeks To Post!!!!!!!!! June 28!!! Any version of Broly!!!!

Brolytards in 1... 2...

Note: Good luck.

@albertphytagoras: Nah. This is a trny, not a battle thread.

@lukehero:

The brolytards will vote at the end...

@albertphytagoras: You could easily say anti DBZ guys would vote. I don't even think this sight has many hardcore DBzers anyway due to the fact they don't allow straight up battle threads with DBZ.

@lukehero: just to clarify, I'm NOT allowed to use brainwave to turn Wally into a bloodlusted death machine?

@highaccuser: Nope. Wally west morals must stay on. It was in the OP, sorry.

@lukehero: ah, it's no loss. Ima still stomp.

@easternwind you should go first. I need to know what you'll Be doing with prep.

@highaccuser: I actually dont have prep, could you go first I have 2 and a half other posts to make and I dont really know bunch about your characters where I think you know mine, at least mostly. should be a good match . But id really aprecieate if you would go first .

@highaccuser: @easternwind: Alright, good luck to the both of you.

@easternwind: Alright, let's start. I'll use feats from Brainwave sr. because jr. absorbed his powers

The distance of the island is nothing to my team nor yours, so let's not pertend there's any considerable distance between us.

My first move is to have Brainwave jr. mind control my entire team. I'll be using him from a period when he was a highly unstable villain. My team has no TP resistance. Now you may be saying "Wally can resist telepathy by speeding up his brain". I ask you, WHEN? Wally has been affected by telepathy countless times.

1. Mind controlled by Fernus.

2. Hurt by Groods telepathy(and Grood is no where near brainwaves level).

3. MMH min wipes him.

Barry has shown TP resistance, I don't think Wally ever has.

And it's not like Braiwave's a weak telepath. His weaker father mind controlled SPECTRE.

It's a pre crisis scan, but Brainwave is a silver age character. That shouldn't matter. Now my team has complete teamwork. Rather than make matchups or battle plans(which in this case I find completely uneeded), I'll just establish why each of my members can't be countered by yours.

LARFLEEZE:

Larlfeeze possess the powers of the entire Orange light. This essentially gives him power levels rivaling the entire GLC. I'm not afraid to say he MASSIVELY outclasses your team from a power standpoint by ridiculous proportions.

Those are the controllers. Each of them are equal to the guardians, who can one-shot experienced lanterns and beat swarms of mind controlled lanterns.

Speaking of the guardians...

All of the guardians and an army of manhunters were helpless against the mere side affects of the orange light.

And then there's my army of orange lanterns.

They'll be fighting the army of illusions Loki creates This will be quick because they have this nice trick:

Absorbing magic! They'll gobble up Loki's illusions in seconds.

Then there's Wally West. Even morals on, he shouldhave no trouble soloing your team. This for one was done with Morals:

This is Mongul. He's held his own against Superman and Green Lantern at the same time, but Wally stomped him while toying around. He also did this with morals:

That's a martain. They curbstomped every member of the justice league except a pissed off Martian Manhunter...and Wally.

I know your team has good reaction speed, but they can't react to someone who literally sees people with FTL reation speed(wonder woman and Kyle) frozen.

I'd get into steel and brainwave, but I don't have the time and I don't see the need.

I won't be able to respond till the 26th, so be ready for rapid debating then. Your move.

@highaccuser: @easternwind:

hah! =) I am working on a response for this and our match right now =)

@easternwind: :D

@easternwind: @highaccuser: Eastern is sick, so this is going to take a while. Yall can get an extension past the 28th if need be.

That's fine with me honestly. Hope he gets better soon.

Yeah didnt have a chance to post here, I was sick for the last week, I feel better now, So I am going to start getting my post up for these 2 tourneys and tmy CaV now,

Thanks for being nice about it , these last 2 weeks have been terrible, with losing internet and then getting this nasty throat infection

@easternwind: Alright man, focus on getting healthy.

Thanks man, Its gone enough that I can think straight now, Damn thing hit me out of no where earlier in the week, Throat infection + high fever all in one day.

But now I am just on bedrest, but well enough to type so Ill be getin to it.

@lukehero: After Fully Looking into Larfleeze...How was he only 6 points? O.O

@easternwind: Plot Device Weaknesses

He's also not that bright..

What does that even mean?

@pr0metheus: A plot device weakness is something specific the writers create to beat a certain seemingly extremely powerful character; like Superman has the red sun & krpytonite, Martian Manhunter has fire, Storm has claustrophobia....stuff like that.

@juiceboks: True. Yet another reason he's just a 6.

Hey don't forget to post in your battle. :D

Oh alright. I was thinking something else, I didn't know those counted.

What is Larfleeze's, He doesn't seem to have any weakness other then the no TP which is covered.

@pr0metheus: Uhh, don't want to say since these two are still in the middle of a battle and I'm the OP. Won't take you long if you look it up though.

This is news to me, and I read Johns entire GL run.

To be honest, I also have no idea what you are talking about unless it is something specific like soul attacks or something.. So if thats the whole reason he is 6 points maybe you could tell me? XD

@highaccuser: Not as if they are conventional, but plot device weaknesses all the same.

hm.

Cough Cough *he is mind controlled here* cough unless you mean something else.

BTW My damn CPU overheated AGAIN, But I almost have the post up

@sophia89: NO helping Mister.

Alright, I am pretty much done and my computer gives me more issues. /Sigh I havde 80% on my CPU , and I have the other 20% done on my laptop. Ill put it up asap once I get both parts

@easternwind: K

Intro:::

My team is composed of two heavy hitters, and my main man Loki who will be running the other stuff.

I will start by going over the characters, Then Addressing your plan and I will slip in some bits of mine , and go into it, in full detail, and fully counter in the next post.

Beer and Broccoli :::

Billis::

Billis is the most powerful DBZ Villain, He is far above the Z fighters, He is a God of Destruction, Opposite to creation, his job is to destroy planets and other things. Now I will go into his stats

Striking:

With but a small percentage of his power he is able to take down two of the most powerful Dragon Ball Z characters there are, Majin Boo and Mystic Gohan:

Speed:

He is not only strong, but fast. Casually He is faster than SSJ3 Goku:

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Energy:

Billis has good Energy attacks, I will not drag on into this right now though

Durability:

Billis has great durability

Here he takes a full force Goku punch on the casual :

Broly

Broly is one of the stronger DBZ bad guys, and here he is:

Striking:

Broly hits hard, Here he takes down the Z fighters:

Just from Fighting Mountains are felled:

Speed:

He is able to casually outspeed FP/A SSJ Goku and Piccolo-Kami, at the same time, with ease:

Energy:

Broly has powerful Energy projection

Here is an example of him gleefully planet busting:

Durability

Broly has very impressive durability as well. Here he tanks a full Blast from Goku's Kamehameha

Goku's Kamehameha has matched planet busting attacks and destroyed a star vs Cooler. But Broly laughs it off

He also has great physical durability, he took every punch the Z fighters could give him

Here is an example:

Loki:::

Loki, Brother of Thor is an insanely powerful Magician.

General:

Loki is beyond mortals, Even his meager physical body is powerful

Spiderman cant hurt him:

Pretty strong too:

Yeah, he is pretty bad a*s. but this isnt the most relevant, I just like to show how strong he is, Now I will get into magic.

Magic

Loki is a powerful magic user and God

He is by far the most versatile member of my team. Here are some things that he can do and brings to the table:

Uses his magical blasts to blow away 2 amped frost giants :

He also has omni directional blasts that have staggered powerful characters:

He is able to look directly at someones past:

He is also able to cast illusions to hide things, as well as other effects. These are extremely powerful, Hiding from people that are quite up there.

He was able to hid his Villainy even the mighty Odin:

I have much much more I could go into, But we will go into that in round 2.

The Battle

So, with the unique strategy you are using. I will mostly addressing that here.

Telepathy:

Telepathy, so telepathy is an important part of your plan.

So I am going to be going over some concerns, and questions.

First off, You say Larfleeze has no TP resistance, but as far as I know , he does have good resistance, he resisted telepathy from lanterns during an encounter with them, and has also resisted telepathy from the First Lantern. Every lantern has base TP resistance to begin with, and Larfleeze should have the raw power to have a large amount of TP resistance, and that taking him over would be hard

You say you are using Brainwave jr. from the time he is a highly unstable villain, I didnt know you could do that but I assume you do it because I assume as a hero he wouldn't want to do that, so that makes sense. However, I feel like Wally would be stopping Brainwave jr, as soon as the match started.

Another thing I would like to address it the TP feats you have given for Brainwave Jr., The only thing you have shown me is a regular brainwave feat, and you are showing me one that is pre crisis, you say this shouldnt matter, but it does, Pre crisis is non cannon and does not apply.

Conclusion

I havent got into countering every single thing yet obviously, and we will get into that though dont worry. And I will also expand more on my plans and such in the next post, which I have some done for already.

But I have shown my characters and addressed some points.

"OOC:"

I had a bit more planned, but I wanted to get this up so we could continue, so ill bump that to the next post, which will make it quicker to make too , rather than squeeze it all in and not get it up tonight.

@highaccuser: @easternwind: Hey, don't forget to tag. :D

I tagged in the first one but I had to re do it like 6 times XD

@easternwind: Aight. :)

@easternwind:

Telepathy, so telepathy is an important part of your plan.

So I am going to be going over some concerns, and questions.

Alright.

First off, You say Larfleeze has no TP resistance, but as far as I know , he does have good resistance, he resisted telepathy from lanterns during an encounter with them, and has also resisted telepathy from the First Lantern.

At no point in that fight was any lantern shown trying to use telepathy.

He didn't resist the first lantern in any shape or form. Not only that, the first lantern lacks good telepathy feats honestly.

Every lantern has base TP resistance to begin with, and Larfleeze should have the raw power to have a large amount of TP resistance, and that taking him over would be hard

Actually no, NOT all lanterns have TP resistance. Kyle was mind controlled by 2 white martians rather easily.

In fact, Larfleeze himself was harmed by black lantern Jonn's TP during blackest night.

You say you are using Brainwave jr. from the time he is a highly unstable villain, I didnt know you could do that but I assume you do it because I assume as a hero he wouldn't want to do that, so that makes sense.

Yep. You got it.

However, I feel like Wally would be stopping Brainwave jr, as soon as the match started.

I don't think he can or would do this. Teams don't nessecarily work together, but they also don't infight to my knowledge. Can you confirm that @lukehero?

Also, Wally is not familiar with Brainwave and would not know he'd be a liability. If anything he's going for Larfleeze, who can just be woken up after Brainwave takes control of Wally.

Another thing I would like to address it the TP feats you have given for Brainwave Jr., The only thing you have shown me is a regular brainwave feat,

Because Brainwave absorbed his fathers powers, so of course those feats would be appflicable.

Further proof of his superiority: His father was equal to the ultra humanite.

Brainwave jr. on the other hand overpowered Ultra.

and you are showing me one that is pre crisis, you say this shouldnt matter, but it does, Pre crisis is non cannon and you are going to have to give me something better than that.

Pre-crisis is canon...it happened at some point, and Brainwave is a silver age/JSA character, so his history is largely defined by that.

And he's not featless post-crisis. He went into Black Adams mind easily where Martian Manhunter had problems, overpowered Maxima with a mere mental aspect of himself, stomped the JSA despite many of them having TP shields.

Another interesting thing about Brainwave: He can make mental duplicates. These are not illusions, they are very real and solid and were capable of commiting crimes.

Now I'm going to go into Citizen steel which I didn't have time to last post. He essentially has strength and durability on the level of Kingdom Come Superman as was made abundantly clear in kingdom.

Here he tanks a blow from Herald Gog without even budging

Gog is an insanely powerful teambuster capable of ripping through the JSA and actually outmuscled Kingdom Come Superman and knocked around many powerhouses like ragdolls. That he failed to damage Steel is VERY impressive

In the same arc, Citizen steel was able to knock down the actual god Gog with one blow. Gog is a godlike celestial being who didn't budge from the combined attacks of the JSA till Steel stepped up to the plate.

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Steel's main weakness is his lack of speed. Due to metal all over his bones and a 520 ton suit restricting his movement he is extremely slow and impractical in combat situations. However, I have the perfect way to make up for this: Speed lending.

Wally can lend portions of his speed to others. This is a tactic he does fairly often and easily covers steel's blindspot.

1. Gives Superman a speed boost so he can go FTL.
2. Gives Pre-crisis DC heroes a speed boost to harm the anti-monitor.
3. Lends Hippolyta some speed so she can move faster than thought.
4. Uses speed lending in an agressive way by giving Mongul an excess of momentum and sending him flying.

So Flash can make steel into a speedblitzing invunrable tank. Think about that.

There's also the issue of Speed Stealing. Wally's done this many, many times and your team has no response to it. Here are instances where he's speed stolen to show it's an in character move:

1. Steals Speed from Jay and Bart to fight Zoom.
2. Steals speed from Amazo
3. Notes he could steal Supermans speed.
4. Disguised as Professor Zoom, he rearranges the speed of Max Mercury's brain. I admit he won't do this morals on.
5. Steals speed from Cheetah.
6. Stops the movement of the entire planet. Great scale feat.
7. Steal Girders speed.

So...yeah he does this a lot. Your team can't really operate if they're statues.

Your move.

@highaccuser: @easternwind: Looking good, let me know when you guys are ready for votes.

I will be posting soon since I can do this one on mobile , He asked you by the way, If wally can stop brainwave from TPing him.

As I said wally wont just let himself get Mind Controlled, And if one character is trying to mentally assault him, Wally would be able to defend himself and stop Brainwave right?

The rules clearly say People are acting as they would on and Teamwork matters and such.

My point is he can't really defend himself here. He won't expect a psychic attack and can't resist one.