#1 Posted by kelvinator (322 posts) - - Show Bio

vs

round 1: x-men 3, heroes season 4

round 2: x-men first class, heroes season 4 but peter has all the powers his lost in season 3

both x-men have 1 day for prep

hiro can't pause time.

#2 Posted by The_Imperator (1709 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: assuming only the X-Men listed, Prof. X should be able to give the X-Men side the win, as Matt isn't on Prof X's level. Although Hiro with time slow might be able to shank the X-Men, which actually would give the round to the Heroes. Basically, it's down to Hiro and X, whoever attacks first.

Round 2: Ungodly stomp for the Heroes, since you didn't say Peter couldn't stop time. However, if time stop is removed then Peter and Hiro have to slow time really quickly or Prof X gets them and the X-Men win again.

#3 Posted by rugrat (174 posts) - - Show Bio

can you describe the people from heroes if you dont the team that most known and has the most powerful psychic will win without any reason

#4 Edited by The_Imperator (1709 posts) - - Show Bio

@rugrat said:

can you describe the people from heroes if you dont the team that most known and has the most powerful psychic will win without any reason

You want me to describe the Heroes team?

Alright, here it goes:

  • Peter can copy powers by touch
  • Sylar has a ridiculous arsenal of powers he has copied, including electrokinesis, sonic screams, flight, healing, telekinesis, disintegration, Midas touch, and quite a few others
  • Matt Parkman is a telepath, although not on the level of movie Prof X.
  • Hiro Nakamura has complete control over his location in space and time, able to rewind himself along his timeline, teleport himself and others, slow down time so he appears to be moving superfast, and other things along that vein.
  • Ando can shoot lightning which can either kill or super charge powers to ridiculous levels
  • Tracy has water and ice control, and her body is completely maleable, being able to turn into water or ice or a mixture of the two.
  • Mohinder Suresh has super strength.
  • Claire Bennet has super healing

Those are the only people in the pictures that either have powers, have powers that matter, or are alive

#5 Posted by kelvinator (322 posts) - - Show Bio

peter petrelli has the ability to mimic abilities of other like rogue but he can do it both by touch and observing, but in season 3 he could mimic almost ever ones ability.

sylar can take others ability, he has telekinesis and can cut open people skulls with his finger

hiro can manipulate space and time

matt is a telepath and also as mental manipulation and precognition

nathan can fly

claire has healing factor like deadpool's

mohinder has super-strength and agility

tracy can freeze thing, manipulate water and also turn her body in water.

ando can proect energy and amplify the abilities of other. he can make a speedster time-travel.

angela petrelli can see the future in her dreams and can also manipulate dreams.

maya can emit poison

#6 Posted by kelvinator (322 posts) - - Show Bio

sylar is like a psychotic apocalypse. he is called the strongest one of all. he can't die, he can disintegrate thing, telekinesis, electrokinesis, understands how everything works and the list goes on. in the future when some guy accidentally killed his son he destroy the state in the blink of an eye killing millions of people in the process.

#7 Posted by The_Imperator (1709 posts) - - Show Bio

sylar is like a psychotic apocalypse. he is called the strongest one of all. he can't die, he can disintegrate thing, telekinesis, electrokinesis, understands how everything works and the list goes on. in the future when some guy accidentally killed his son he destroy the state in the blink of an eye killing millions of people in the process.

Wasn't the state, it was the town. And that was when he had nuclear energy projection. which he hasn't decided to get back yet. Mainly because using his power turns him crazy since it screws up his brain. If he actually does use it, and forgets his morals, he picks up all season 1 powers and telepathy.

#8 Posted by kelvinator (322 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_imperator: if he succeed in get everyone's ability, would he be able to stomp guys like darkseid and apocalypse and solo teams like jla, x-men and avengers?

#9 Posted by The_Imperator (1709 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_imperator: if he succeed in get everyone's ability, would he be able to stomp guys like darkseid and apocalypse and solo teams like jla, x-men and avengers?

No, because all of them are way to tough for him to affect. Darkseid wouldn't be all that phased by time stopping, and telepaths and speed blitzers would always be able to get the better of Sylar (if he only has Heroes universe powers). There is a chance Future Peter (most OP person in the show, except for the Haitian) could defeat Apocalypse, but only through time stop + body swap.

Wait, I just realized I forgot the Haitian, is he in this fight? Because if he is, the Heroes side should be able to pull off a win in both cases. With everyone's power temporarily down, Hiro can stab everyone on the other side.

#10 Posted by kyrees (3044 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_imperator: if that were the case, leech should be in this fight too

#11 Posted by The_Imperator (1709 posts) - - Show Bio

@kyrees said:

@the_imperator: if that were the case, leech should be in this fight too

At that point, it is Hiro vs Wolverine, which while Logan can fight, Hiro has range. SO I guess it'd go to Logan because even without healing he tanks stuff like a boss.

#12 Edited by rugrat (174 posts) - - Show Bio

though the heros have a lot of power if hiro doesn't do his power instantly the x men should have a chance.

the first x-men movie wise: if time is slowed can the whole heroes team cannot move aleit while hiro holds two (with strong energy blasts) he could do some damage winning, this would be hard if he cant concentrate mid battle if this x men has prep and the heroes dont then x men should win

Strat professor xavier reads the heroes minds and emulates the in the danger room for 2 hr practice , next he briefs them on the battle plan storm should create violent weather directed at him to distract him from keeping a constant time slow so that the rest of the team gets in position for a takedown as in cryo freeze or mind crush

the second x men get killed

#13 Posted by MisterGuyMan (1953 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_imperator:

Technically I think that Haitian can only affect other mutants in his world since it's based on a gene specific to Heroes-verse. I guess we can assume the Heroes gene and the X gene are the same for this. Even then his power was tapped out when he was trying to subdue the powers of Peter's dad. While his powers aren't explained there's at least evidence to suggest that he might not be able to contain an entire team of Xmen. Can he even selectively choose which powers he can stop?

Anyway as has been mentioned, it's between Hiro and Prof X. If Hatian can even slow down Prof then the Heroes win. Then again Hiro is kind of scrubby despite his ridiculously overpowered potential...

#14 Edited by The_Imperator (1709 posts) - - Show Bio

@misterguyman: I believe the Haitians power is telepathic. He literally shuts down the part of the brain that controls powers, IIRC. That should work on most people that consciously control powers.

This explanation (telepathy) explains why Arthur could break through it. He had that much power, he could force the telepathic influence out of his head. And yes, we know from the Arthur confrontation that the power can be selective.

Also, he evades telepaths with his power, so it appears he hides himself which allows him to use his power without others noticing.

#15 Posted by MisterGuyMan (1953 posts) - - Show Bio

@misterguyman: I believe the Haitians power is telepathic. He literally shuts down the part of the brain that controls powers, IIRC. That should work on most people that consciously control powers.

This explanation (telepathy) explains why Arthur could break through it. He had that much power, he could force the telepathic influence out of his head. And yes, we know from the Arthur confrontation that the power can be selective.

Also, he evades telepaths with his power, so it appears he hides himself which allows him to use his power without others noticing.

Sounds good. Hatian wins this with Hiro then.

#16 Posted by The_Imperator (1709 posts) - - Show Bio

@misterguyman: Haitian would have to know to block the professor X for it to be effective.

#17 Posted by MisterGuyMan (1953 posts) - - Show Bio

@misterguyman: Haitian would have to know to block the professor X for it to be effective.

He could just broadly disrupt everyone. This is a matter of who can think faster. If Hiro thinks fast enough then every Xman freezes in place. The same if Prof X thinks the Heroes in place. If Hatian comes into this and slows Prof X even a little, Hiro can completely freeze time before Prof can stop him. That's how I see this anyway.

#18 Posted by The_Imperator (1709 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Edited by MisterGuyMan (1953 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_imperator:

I'm assuming that you were correct when you stated that the Hatian could selectively affect people. He wouldn't need to target Prof X specifically, just slow down every Xman as much as he can. Even a second slowing down Prof X, who is probably strong enough to break through eventually, would be enough for Hiro.

#20 Edited by The_Imperator (1709 posts) - - Show Bio

@misterguyman: Ah point. If the Haitian is included, he and the Heroes take it.

#21 Posted by AllStarSuperman (15749 posts) - - Show Bio

@kelvinator: i already made this. And mine was more organized. No offense.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/x-men-vs-heroes-746852/

#22 Posted by superdoom (239 posts) - - Show Bio

heroes stomp both x-men

the main problem for heroes is prof x but if ando supercharges matt, matt will be able to take down prof x. the rest will be killed by peter and sylar. peter and sylar can also solo if they take jean's power.

round 2 peter solos since he can manipulate time and space.

#23 Posted by niBBit (717 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait is this only the main heroes roster and not including the villians from season 4 like Arthur Petrelli? The OP only says X-Men vs Heroes Season 4, thats why i ask. For those who are wondering who Arthur is: Arthur is Peter and Nathan's father and he has the same abilities as Peter only better, why better you ask because unlike Peter who simply mimics your powers Arthur litterly strip you of your powers and then steals them, he's the reason why Peter is depowered because Arthur stole all his powers.


#24 Edited by The_Imperator (1709 posts) - - Show Bio

@nibbit said:

Wait is this only the main heroes roster and not including the villians from season 4 like Arthur Petrelli? The OP only says X-Men vs Heroes Season 4, thats why i ask. For those who are wondering who Arthur is: Arthur is Peter and Nathan's father and he has the same abilities as Peter only better, why better you ask because unlike Peter who simply mimics your powers Arthur litterly strip you of your powers and then steals them, he's the reason why Peter is depowered because Arthur stole all his powers.

Arthur is in volume 4, not season 4. Season 3 was split into two volumes.

#25 Posted by kelvinator (322 posts) - - Show Bio

@nibbit: it is x-men vs the good guys from heroes season 4. if the bad guys were here it will be an epic slaughter.