#1 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Hercules with his mace and the Nemean Lion skin on versus Thing and Wonderman. To the Death or Until only one can continue.

#2 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

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#3 Posted by TheWanderingEye (6 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe the thing and wonderman can take him down.

#4 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Thing would only last about two blows from the mace before all the rocks were knocked off his head and his skull was crushed. Then it would come down to Herc vs Wonderman, and Wonderman wouldn't stand a chance

#5 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone care to tell me why Hercules wouldn't annihilate these two chumps.

#6 Posted by Li'l T-bo (145 posts) - - Show Bio

Hercules is just a demi-god - they are overrated.

#7 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not saying they would win, but I think they have more of a chance than youre giving them. Thing is a pretty tough customer. He's stood in there with the Hulk and put in a decent showing, so with Wonder Man helping out, I think they might eek out 3-5 wins out of 10.

#8 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Li'l T-bo says:

"Hercules is just a demi-god - they are overrated."

The comic book Herc is a full fledged god.

#9 Posted by Li'l T-bo (145 posts) - - Show Bio

meh - gods, demi-gods, whatever. superman is a god, they just don't call him that.

#10 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

true he is as long lived and as powerful as Thor.

#11 Posted by Li'l T-bo (145 posts) - - Show Bio

ha! storm could totally take thor.

i think that hercules vs. jubilee is a more even match.

p.s. i'm f*ck!ng with you

#12 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

YEah but superman is practically a god. I could go with that. even though his tights are a little shall we say flaming.

#13 Posted by Li'l T-bo (145 posts) - - Show Bio

i dunno man, i think the kryptonite thing might make him slightly less than a god. that's a pretty serious weakness.

#14 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

true.

#15 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

I think being a god just means your immortal, or at least very long lived. Or maybe it just means that someone prays to you...

#16 Posted by Li'l T-bo (145 posts) - - Show Bio

i think it means you have to be part of a pantheon, for one thing - norse, greek/roman, celtic, etc. that's just me though, i guess you could define it however you would like.

#17 Posted by AssertingValor (5386 posts) - - Show Bio

thing has no place here,  Marvel herc should win..........
#18 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio

Thing takes part in many PIS battles but realistically he cant keep up with herc especially since hes more powerful than Thor but his inability to fly can be his downfall, i think Diana might be able to blitz him

#19 Posted by God_Spawn (37568 posts) - - Show Bio
@IZZR: Diana has nothing to do with this battle.
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#20 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn said:
@IZZR: Diana has nothing to do with this battle.
OMG damn.... im so out of it sorry
in this case Herc will take them both down.
#21 Posted by BarelyAverage (942 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder man written properly should tip the fight in the things favor IMO.

#22 Posted by odinforce (1505 posts) - - Show Bio
@IZZR said:
Thing takes part in many PIS battles but realistically he cant keep up with herc especially since hes more powerful than Thor but his inability to fly can be his downfall, i think Diana might be able to blitz him
herc has equal strength to thor but is better in h2h combat
#23 Edited by MzombieX (975 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd back Hercules.  
He's equal to Thor in strength and equal to Thor in H2H.  
If Thor, with only one arm and at classic levels, can kill Thing and Hulk in a brawl, then I'm confident Hercules can pull this off.
Ben has alot of heart, but It won't be enough and he'd go down rather quickly ... as long as Herc isn't pulling punches.  (keeping in mind that this is a fight to the death)
WM might be the most trouble, but he still isn't in Herc's league.
 
 
#24 Posted by Manchine (4162 posts) - - Show Bio

You know I have to give it to Herc still. 
#25 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2931 posts) - - Show Bio

If it's Classic Wonder Man, the team wins.

#26 Posted by D3athstroke (3910 posts) - - Show Bio

Thing will be one shotted and Wonderman Ripped in Half

#27 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@MzombieX said:

I'd back Hercules.  
He's equal to Thor in strength and equal to Thor in H2H.  
If Thor, with only one arm and at classic levels, can kill Thing and Hulk in a brawl, then I'm confident Hercules can pull this off.
Ben has alot of heart, but It won't be enough and he'd go down rather quickly ... as long as Herc isn't pulling punches.  (keeping in mind that this is a fight to the death)
WM might be the most trouble, but he still isn't in Herc's league.
 
 
No Herc's stronger and i think better H2H, without Mjolnir Thor is incapable of matching Herc
#28 Posted by MzombieX (975 posts) - - Show Bio
@IZZR said:


                    @MzombieX said:


I'd back Hercules.  
He's equal to Thor in strength and equal to Thor in H2H.  
If Thor, with only one arm and at classic levels, can kill Thing and Hulk in a brawl, then I'm confident Hercules can pull this off.
Ben has alot of heart, but It won't be enough and he'd go down rather quickly ... as long as Herc isn't pulling punches.  (keeping in mind that this is a fight to the death)
WM might be the most trouble, but he still isn't in Herc's league.
 
 

No Herc's stronger and i think better H2H, without Mjolnir Thor is incapable of matching Herc

                   

               

Thor and Herc have been going at it forever in contests of strength and H2H without the aid of weapons. 
Time and again they match each other in strength. Both also have unquantifiable feats under their belts. 
They have fought for sport in competitive spirit as friends, armwrestled a couple of times, and fought out of anger as enemies. 
They have matched as equals every time in terms of strength. unmovable in arm wrestling matches. 
So what evidence is there to support that Herc is stronger? Incapable of matching Herc? ... He can and has matched him so many times it's ridiculous.
 
They have had anywhere from something like 8 - 10 encounters with each other in tests and have been stated in narration as equals time and again. 
They have been referred to as equals by Zeus and Odin while watching their battles as well.  
Even in the eyes of each other, when they aren't talking smack out of anger, they have referred to themselves as equals physically and respectfully.  
I see them as equals in strength, because that is how they have consistantly been portrayed since the characters were created. 
If anything, I'd question if Thor would be stronger once he entered the Warrior Madness, since he has not fought with Herc under those conditions. 
 
As far as fighting or H2H skill, many would give Herc the slight edge based on the somewhat recent "Blood Oath" issue. 
They matched each other in skill as equals during that fight  ... until the last moment with that headlock. 
Yet they have always matched each other evenly in skill, performing maneuvers page after page, applying holds and reversing them, etc. in every single one of their other fights. 
Countering each other back and forth in visual representation and also being supported, by the same things I already mentioned, in written representation as equals in H2H skill. 
  
So we have one fight during "Blood Oath" where Herc gained the upper hand at the end.  
Yet Thor has also broken out of that very same headlock move in the past, that for some reason he couldn't during "Blood Oath."  
So I personally find it odd that suddenly this maneuver would leave him helpless. It's completely inconsistant to how they have always been portrayed
Thor has never yielded or made statements of thinking Herc was superior in hand to hand ever before. 
In fact, to the contrary, he always opposed him and during their more heated and anger filled matches ... would refer to Herc as clumsy in his execution of skill.  

There are arguably two other battles out of all their other fights where Thor had the upper hand and was beating Herc down before the battle was cut short and interrupted. 
As an example: In one of the two encounters, Thor stormed Olympus in a rage and he and Herc went at it. The tide of battle was in Thor's favor so much that 
he put Herc down and Herc's followers began to question their faith in him. Herc had to reassure them he would gain victory to put them at ease.
Once again he charged Thor - to which Thor immediately rejected him and put him down on his ass again, hitting him so hard he sent him like a bullet,
headfirst into a stone staircase and laying him out at the feet of his father.  
Thor stood above him exclaiming that he was going to send Herc to the Underworld until Zeus stepped in and said "HOLD" calling for a truce. 
In another battle Thor had Herc on his knees, as he stood above him and was beating him down, schooling him in the Wrath of Gods ... before the fight was interfered with.

So if it were to be looked at from that standpoint, Thor would have 2 matches in which he had the upper hand - as opposed to Herc's 1 over the course of their history. The rest are all stalemates. 
So I view them essentially as equals and respected rivals in terms of physical ability, both in strength and combat skill.
#29 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17148 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2, I see Wonder Man solo and Herc stomping Thing.