Who would win
Hercules vs Superman in an arm wrestling contest
"I want to give to Herc... So I will. He rips Supes arm off and beats him with it. ;]"
sups would own him, i don't see herc lifting moons and pulling whole planets
" @Citizen 14 said:yeah he would. and I fully acknowledge it. I just wanted to mess around with it. and I like Herc better. Even though he is almost a joke now, along with Ares."I want to give to Herc... So I will. He rips Supes arm off and beats him with it. ;]"sups would own him, i don't see herc lifting moons and pulling whole planets "
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:" @Citizen 14 said:yeah he would. and I fully acknowledge it. I just wanted to mess around with it. and I like Herc better. Even though he is almost a joke now, along with Ares.""I want to give to Herc... So I will. He rips Supes arm off and beats him with it. ;]"sups would own him, i don't see herc lifting moons and pulling whole planets "
ahhh ok :)
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:" @Citizen 14 said:yeah he would. and I fully acknowledge it. I just wanted to mess around with it. and I like Herc better. Even though he is almost a joke now, along with Ares.""I want to give to Herc... So I will. He rips Supes arm off and beats him with it. ;]"sups would own him, i don't see herc lifting moons and pulling whole planets "
ahhh ok :)
" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too much
Herc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that own
I still think Superman might edge this
Herc done too much jobbing
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:only prob with both those feats is that he did not hold it up for a long time, it was also just the sky and not all of earth or the heavens" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore.
" @TruePwnge said:Agreed. Thats crazy strong."@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:That wasnt the Earth, unless Herc suddenly grew in size and his arms were able to cover 1/5 of the entire planet" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing "
Or the Earth shrunk
and he didnt hold up the heavens, he held up the sky...which by scientific measures weighs nothing
"@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole
"@JThree47693 said:"@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match.
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:I would buy tickets to that. haha. Still I gotta give it Herc."@JThree47693 said:Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match. ""@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:"@JThree47693 said:Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match. ""@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
he did not hold the heavens he held the sky, much different, the sky is just that the sky, herc was not holding all the universe
" @JThree47693 said:You go high enough in the sky you hit space and the universe."@DC_Marvel_1000 said:he did not hold the heavens he held the sky, much different, the sky is just that the sky, herc was not holding all the universe ""@JThree47693 said:Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match. ""@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:" @JThree47693 said:You go high enough in the sky you hit space and the universe.""@DC_Marvel_1000 said:he did not hold the heavens he held the sky, much different, the sky is just that the sky, herc was not holding all the universe ""@JThree47693 said:Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match. ""@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
but he was not holding the universe up, he was just holding earths sky up.
"@JThree47693 said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:he did not hold the heavens he held the sky, much different, the sky is just that the sky, herc was not holding all the universe ""@JThree47693 said:Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match. ""@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
Looks like he is holding up the universe. I see planets and stars. Thats more impressive than any feat of strength Superman has. Im starting to lean towards Herc
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:again not the universe, just earths sky, what do you look at in the night? stars ect ect and thats due to the sky, he's not holding up the universe trust me on this, it was just earths sky"@JThree47693 said:Looks like he is holding up the universe. I see planets and stars. Thats more impressive than any feat of strength Superman has. Im starting to lean towards Herc ""@DC_Marvel_1000 said:he did not hold the heavens he held the sky, much different, the sky is just that the sky, herc was not holding all the universe ""@JThree47693 said:Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match. ""@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:So if I hold my hands up in the air I guess I would be lifting up the universe also right?"@JThree47693 said:Looks like he is holding up the universe. I see planets and stars. Thats more impressive than any feat of strength Superman has. Im starting to lean towards Herc ""@DC_Marvel_1000 said:he did not hold the heavens he held the sky, much different, the sky is just that the sky, herc was not holding all the universe ""@JThree47693 said:Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match. ""@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
It says hes holding up the sky and nothing more, read the text
" @JThree47693 said:Alright. Good point." @DC_Marvel_1000 said:So if I hold my hands up in the air I guess I would be lifting up the universe also right? It says hes holding up the sky and nothing more, read the text ""@JThree47693 said:Looks like he is holding up the universe. I see planets and stars. Thats more impressive than any feat of strength Superman has. Im starting to lean towards Herc ""@DC_Marvel_1000 said:he did not hold the heavens he held the sky, much different, the sky is just that the sky, herc was not holding all the universe ""@JThree47693 said:Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match. ""@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
"@JThree47693 said:" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:So if I hold my hands up in the air I guess I would be lifting up the universe also right? It says hes holding up the sky and nothing more, read the text ""@JThree47693 said:Looks like he is holding up the universe. I see planets and stars. Thats more impressive than any feat of strength Superman has. Im starting to lean towards Herc ""@DC_Marvel_1000 said:he did not hold the heavens he held the sky, much different, the sky is just that the sky, herc was not holding all the universe ""@JThree47693 said:Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match. ""@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
Where does it say he is only holdoing up the sky?
" @Johnny_Blazed said:omg do i have to point it out for you? its in the smallest box in the panel"@JThree47693 said:Where does it say he is only holdoing up the sky? "" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:So if I hold my hands up in the air I guess I would be lifting up the universe also right? It says hes holding up the sky and nothing more, read the text ""@JThree47693 said:Looks like he is holding up the universe. I see planets and stars. Thats more impressive than any feat of strength Superman has. Im starting to lean towards Herc ""@DC_Marvel_1000 said:he did not hold the heavens he held the sky, much different, the sky is just that the sky, herc was not holding all the universe ""@JThree47693 said:Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match. ""@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
"@JThree47693 said:" @Johnny_Blazed said:omg do i have to point it out for you? its in the smallest box in the panel ""@JThree47693 said:Where does it say he is only holdoing up the sky? "" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:So if I hold my hands up in the air I guess I would be lifting up the universe also right? It says hes holding up the sky and nothing more, read the text ""@JThree47693 said:Looks like he is holding up the universe. I see planets and stars. Thats more impressive than any feat of strength Superman has. Im starting to lean towards Herc ""@DC_Marvel_1000 said:he did not hold the heavens he held the sky, much different, the sky is just that the sky, herc was not holding all the universe ""@JThree47693 said:Doesnt beat holding up the heavens. I see planets stars, thats a crazy feat of strength. He is pretty much holding up the universe if you think about it, and black holes are in the universe. This would be a hell of an arm wrestling match. ""@TruePwnge said:"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:Damn he held the heavens together thats insane. I was thinking Superman but I dont know anymore. "" i don't see herc lifting moons"no you see him lifting the Earth, and held the heavens in place
Herc at max power is a monster
but he jobbers too muchHerc usually turns up in fights either dumb or drunk, even though Herc has feats that ownI still think Superman might edge thisHerc done too much jobbing"
black hole"
You got me. I wasnt even reading the words, and it does say the sky. Marvels database says he was holding up the heavens but I guess we will have to go with the scan.
"@Citizen 14 said:"I would buy tickets to that. haha. Still I gotta give it Herc. "and there's this one
""
Lol nice
Wow because he beat up someone who doesnt possess a fraction of Supermans physical power
Maybe we should show the scans of Captain Americas shield hurting Herc
Or show the scans of Herc using every fiber of his strength to drag an island
People, when they refer to the "heavens" they're talking about the sky. This isn't just a comic book fact, this is a real world, historical fact.
Regardless, no one wins this matchup. Like with Thor, the planet starts to shake and they stop the match before everyone dies.
" well. all iknow ia Atlas pwns both of them.......Holding up the heaven for ever? lol beat that supes "He never held up the heavens he held up the sky
"well. all iknow ia Atlas pwns both of them.......Holding up the heaven for ever? lol beat that supes"
lol superman beat atlas in a arm wrestle
" @thatguy said:" well. all iknow ia Atlas pwns both of them.......Holding up the heaven for ever? lol beat that supes "He never held up the heavens he held up the sky "
As I said earlier, the heavens are the sky. It's the same thing.
" @Johnny_Blazed said:Regardless its the sky which technically has no weight since its just apart of the atmosphere" @thatguy said:As I said earlier, the heavens are the sky. It's the same thing. "" well. all iknow ia Atlas pwns both of them.......Holding up the heaven for ever? lol beat that supes "He never held up the heavens he held up the sky "
" @ThanosIsMad said:Yeah I'm sure that's how the writers intended it to be interpreted." @Johnny_Blazed said:Regardless its the sky which technically has no weight since its just apart of the atmosphere "" @thatguy said:As I said earlier, the heavens are the sky. It's the same thing. "" well. all iknow ia Atlas pwns both of them.......Holding up the heaven for ever? lol beat that supes "He never held up the heavens he held up the sky "
" @Johnny_Blazed said:The writers didnt give enough detail on the actual feat...you can't make assumptions for the writers" @ThanosIsMad said:Yeah I'm sure that's how the writers intended it to be interpreted. "" @Johnny_Blazed said:Regardless its the sky which technically has no weight since its just apart of the atmosphere "" @thatguy said:As I said earlier, the heavens are the sky. It's the same thing. "" well. all iknow ia Atlas pwns both of them.......Holding up the heaven for ever? lol beat that supes "He never held up the heavens he held up the sky "
Beside we already know that Herc nearly had a hernia when he pulled that island
Herc doesnt come close to Superman, at all
" @JKarmosay said:The only assumption I'm making is that the sky wasn't weightless when Hercules lifted it." @Johnny_Blazed said:The writers didnt give enough detail on the actual feat...you can't make assumptions for the writersBeside we already know that Herc nearly had a hernia when he pulled that island Herc doesnt come close to Superman, at all "" @ThanosIsMad said:Yeah I'm sure that's how the writers intended it to be interpreted. "" @Johnny_Blazed said:Regardless its the sky which technically has no weight since its just apart of the atmosphere "" @thatguy said:As I said earlier, the heavens are the sky. It's the same thing. "" well. all iknow ia Atlas pwns both of them.......Holding up the heaven for ever? lol beat that supes "He never held up the heavens he held up the sky "
" @ThanosIsMad said:" @Johnny_Blazed said:Regardless its the sky which technically has no weight since its just apart of the atmosphere "" @thatguy said:As I said earlier, the heavens are the sky. It's the same thing. "" well. all iknow ia Atlas pwns both of them.......Holding up the heaven for ever? lol beat that supes "He never held up the heavens he held up the sky "
But going by mythology, the heavens (the sky) contains everything you can with your own eyes. And everything you can see in the sky has weight. And then you have to couple that with the atmosphere of Earth, technically, that's a lot of weight
That feat is based off of the mythological feat. Going by the origins of the task and ceasing the use of real world logic, Herc is holding up a shitton of weight.
but honestly, that feat shouldn't be held to canon anyway, otherwise people he's fought, he'd literally have no trouble with. Even holding back, Herc would've demolished anyone he's encountered, even if he held back if that was a feat directly tied to his stats. DC's Hercules did the same thing, and if you take that into account, he should be the strongest person on DC Earth and shouldn't have jobbed to KC Superman especially.
"@Johnny_Blazed said:" @ThanosIsMad said:But going by mythology, the heavens (the sky) contains everything you can with your own eyes. And everything you can see in the sky has weight. And then you have to couple that with the atmosphere of Earth, technically, that's a lot of weightThat feat is based off of the mythological feat. Going by the origins of the task and ceasing the use of real world logic, Herc is holding up a shitton of weight.but honestly, that feat shouldn't be held to canon anyway, otherwise people he's fought, he'd literally have no trouble with. Even holding back, Herc would've demolished anyone he's encountered, even if he held back if that was a feat directly tied to his stats. DC's Hercules did the same thing, and if you take that into account, he should be the strongest person on DC Earth and shouldn't have jobbed to KC Superman especially."" @Johnny_Blazed said:Regardless its the sky which technically has no weight since its just apart of the atmosphere "" @thatguy said:As I said earlier, the heavens are the sky. It's the same thing. "" well. all iknow ia Atlas pwns both of them.......Holding up the heaven for ever? lol beat that supes "He never held up the heavens he held up the sky "
Nicely put
"@Johnny_Blazed said:I agree that holding up the Sky, from the view point of the Greeks, does mean the heavens." @ThanosIsMad said:But going by mythology, the heavens (the sky) contains everything you can with your own eyes. And everything you can see in the sky has weight. And then you have to couple that with the atmosphere of Earth, technically, that's a lot of weightThat feat is based off of the mythological feat. Going by the origins of the task and ceasing the use of real world logic, Herc is holding up a shitton of weight.but honestly, that feat shouldn't be held to canon anyway, otherwise people he's fought, he'd literally have no trouble with. Even holding back, Herc would've demolished anyone he's encountered, even if he held back if that was a feat directly tied to his stats. DC's Hercules did the same thing, and if you take that into account, he should be the strongest person on DC Earth and shouldn't have jobbed to KC Superman especially."" @Johnny_Blazed said:Regardless its the sky which technically has no weight since its just apart of the atmosphere "" @thatguy said:As I said earlier, the heavens are the sky. It's the same thing. "" well. all iknow ia Atlas pwns both of them.......Holding up the heaven for ever? lol beat that supes "He never held up the heavens he held up the sky "
However I don't believe that Hercules or Atlas was actually holding up all that weight.
There are other mystical forces at work there. For instance they don't actualy hold the heavens now do they. How could it rest on their shoulders or in their hands.
Zeus is not powerful enough to have created that effect so it must have already been pre-existing.
How about that if all that weight rested on Herc or Atlas, it would have then in turn rested on the Earth and driven the planet from orbit.
In my mind, they at like a centre stone - helping to support the weight and it's a lot, but they only see a fcation of the actual 'sky' (heavens).
Now when you look at many of Hercules other strength feats - throwing Godzilla, pulling Manhattan, holding Manhattan together etc, they are all significantly lower and all appear to push him to his limits. That also fits in with him not holding all the weight of the 'sky'.
Superman for the win.
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