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Herc is stronger.

I'm tellin ya, Herc is only second to the Hulk in pure strength.

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Herc wins 7/10 and he is stronger than She-Hulk.

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SHE-HULK! :D

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stronger? well by her last entry in the Handbook She-Hulk is 100+

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while Herc is no slouch by far, She-Hulk pretty much either beats or toatls her opponents. She was trained
by Captain America and has had much more since. She beat War Machine , Thunderstrike, The Avengers,
Starfox, Titania, The Wrecking Crew, Namor, the Champion, Abomination, Rhino (right after he 1-shotted
Nova into orbit), Doc Sampson, The All Winners Squad, Rogue, Captain Britain, X-factor (current),
Grey Gargoyle (and shook off his stone effects), Dragon Man, Drax, Fantastic Force, the Living Monolith,
Behemoth,Super-Skrull and She-Thing all on her own and in all cases easily, owned and in most 1-shotted.
She fought her cousin Hulk and held up on several occasions. She actually got the upper hand on Thor.
She beat on Rulk so bad he was bleeding out of his face.

good fight but im taking She-Hulk for the majority.



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Not disputing that she is class 100, just that she is stronger than Herc.

If you go by feats shown, Herc has her beat. He pulled Manhatten back together.

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and i wouldn't post anything from her comic. Its was a joke. They had her beating the Champion for pete's sake.

That guy could give her cousin a run.

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#157  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Hercules is stronger and more durable.He wins.She-Hulk could wail on him all day and he would still be ready to go a few rounds.

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#158  Edited By Theracles

I can't believe this thread is still going on. It's obvious Hercules is stronger.

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Vance Astro said:
"Hercules is stronger and more durable.He wins.She-Hulk could wail on him all day and he would still be ready to go a few rounds."
Yep.
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hercules wins

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#161  Edited By PrinceIMC

Yup Herc wins. And the pics used as examples of She-Hulk's strength when she's wearing the white and purple suit, her strength as She-Hulk was increased because she essentially spent a month working out all day in Jen Walters form. I doubt she's still doing that to make her She-Hulk form so strong.

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#162  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
PrinceIMC said:
"Yup Herc wins. And the pics used as examples of She-Hulk's strength when she's wearing the white and purple suit, her strength as She-Hulk was increased because she essentially spent a month working out all day in Jen Walters form. I doubt she's still doing that to make her She-Hulk form so strong."
Jen is still the strongest female superhero in Marvel.She's not on Herc's level now because he's gotten stronger.She hasn't gotten weaker.
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#163  Edited By PrinceIMC

Yup. That's why Titania is such a good villain for her, they're around the same strength but Jen wins because of out thinking her opponent. I'm just saying she's probably not as strong as she was when she had to wear the Jupiter suit for a short time in her own comic. It was a temporary boost.

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#164  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
PrinceIMC said:
"Yup. That's why Titania is such a good villain for her, they're around the same strength but Jen wins because of out thinking her opponent. I'm just saying she's probably not as strong as she was when she had to wear the Jupiter suit for a short time in her own comic. It was a temporary boost."
Jen has absolutely owned Titinia in some fights.Titania has gotten stronger as well.I can't wait to see what happens if the New She-Hulk (Thundra) and the Old one (J Wall) go at it.She-Hulk has only gotten stronger.So I doubt she is any weaker than any strength level she has achieved at any point.
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#165  Edited By PrinceIMC

Yeah seeing the new She-Hulk battle the old will be good.

I don't currently read She-Hulk, I stopped shortly after it was relaunched after she beat Titania with the Power Gem but she didn't look as big as she did in the previous volume when she worked out constantly as Jen Walters in order to increase her strength exponentially to fight Champion. I assumed she stopped hitting the weights constantly because otherwise she'd still look like a female body builder as Jen.

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#166  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
PrinceIMC said:
"Yeah seeing the new She-Hulk battle the old will be good.I don't currently read She-Hulk, I stopped shortly after it was relaunched after she beat Titania with the Power Gem but she didn't look as big as she did in the previous volume when she worked out constantly as Jen Walters in order to increase her strength exponentially to fight Champion. I assumed she stopped hitting the weights constantly because otherwise she'd still look like a female body builder as Jen."
She-Hulk is always training.Never quits.When she's not she's going after cases like Daredevil.
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character being stronger doesnt make another characters strength dissapear, likewise, with any other traits powers, and it doesnt make a win. in alot of cases a weaker character beats a stronger or better in some other area. for example, War Machine dropping Ares, Colossus knocking out Sym (ehile i limbo nontheless). She-Hulk is a great example of beating or getting ground on other characters that are exceptionally above her as i listed above. im sticking with Shulkie here.Vance Astro said:

"PrinceIMC said:
"Yeah seeing the new She-Hulk battle the old will be good.I don't currently read She-Hulk, I stopped shortly after it was relaunched after she beat Titania with the Power Gem but she didn't look as big as she did in the previous volume when she worked out constantly as Jen Walters in order to increase her strength exponentially to fight Champion. I assumed she stopped hitting the weights constantly because otherwise she'd still look like a female body builder as Jen."
She-Hulk is always training.Never quits.When she's not she's going after cases like Daredevil.
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same with Herc, except when he's waiting on a call from Jen thats never going to happen or hanging out on Earth somewhere.
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#168  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
CATMANEXE said:
"character being stronger doesnt make another characters strength dissapear, likewise, with any other traits powers, and it doesnt make a win. in alot of cases a weaker character beats a stronger or better in some other area. for example, War Machine dropping Ares, Colossus knocking out Sym (ehile i limbo nontheless). She-Hulk is a great example of beating or getting ground on other characters that are exceptionally above her as i listed above. im sticking with Shulkie here.Vance Astro said:
"PrinceIMC said:
"Yeah seeing the new She-Hulk battle the old will be good.I don't currently read She-Hulk, I stopped shortly after it was relaunched after she beat Titania with the Power Gem but she didn't look as big as she did in the previous volume when she worked out constantly as Jen Walters in order to increase her strength exponentially to fight Champion. I assumed she stopped hitting the weights constantly because otherwise she'd still look like a female body builder as Jen."
She-Hulk is always training.Never quits.When she's not she's going after cases like Daredevil.
"
same with Herc, except when he's waiting on a call from Jen thats never going to happen or hanging out on Earth somewhere."
Hercules isn't just stronger than She-Hulk.He's alot more durable.Almost nothing hurts him.I have seen him hit with weapons specially designed to kill him and he lived.
She-Hulk might be a better fighter than Hercules but it's still not enough for it to make a difference.She's smarter than him as well but again,I don't see how that will help.She can't make him hurt himself and she could use her intellect to get more hits but even if he let's her get her shots in she doesn't have much of a chance of knocking him out.

War Machine dropping Ares is supposed to mean what? War Machine outclasses Ares in everything except fighting skill.
I don't know who or what Sym is so I can't comment on that.
She-Hulk has never beaten anyone she shouldn't have.The closest thing she has done to that was daze Thor.All her other wins are was because of her being superior in strength or fighting skill.Rulk and Hulk who are both stronger than her as far as I know have never lost to her in a fair one on one.
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Vance Astro said:
"CATMANEXE said:
"character being stronger doesnt make another characters strength dissapear, likewise, with any other traits powers, and it doesnt make a win. in alot of cases a weaker character beats a stronger or better in some other area. for example, War Machine dropping Ares, Colossus knocking out Sym (ehile i limbo nontheless). She-Hulk is a great example of beating or getting ground on other characters that are exceptionally above her as i listed above. im sticking with Shulkie here.Vance Astro said:
"PrinceIMC said:
"Yeah seeing the new She-Hulk battle the old will be good.I don't currently read She-Hulk, I stopped shortly after it was relaunched after she beat Titania with the Power Gem but she didn't look as big as she did in the previous volume when she worked out constantly as Jen Walters in order to increase her strength exponentially to fight Champion. I assumed she stopped hitting the weights constantly because otherwise she'd still look like a female body builder as Jen."
She-Hulk is always training.Never quits.When she's not she's going after cases like Daredevil.
"
same with Herc, except when he's waiting on a call from Jen thats never going to happen or hanging out on Earth somewhere."
Hercules isn't just stronger than She-Hulk.He's alot more durable.Almost nothing hurts him.I have seen him hit with weapons specially designed to kill him and he lived.
She-Hulk might be a better fighter than Hercules but it's still not enough for it to make a difference.She's smarter than him as well but again,I don't see how that will help.She can't make him hurt himself and she could use her intellect to get more hits but even if he let's her get her shots in she doesn't have much of a chance of knocking him out.

War Machine dropping Ares is supposed to mean what? War Machine outclasses Ares in everything except fighting skill.
I don't know who or what Sym is so I can't comment on that.
She-Hulk has never beaten anyone she shouldn't have.The closest thing she has done to that was daze Thor.All her other wins are was because of her being superior in strength or fighting skill.Rulk and Hulk who are both stronger than her as far as I know have never lost to her in a fair one on one.
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re: read the statement i wrote first that you seemed to have been commentating on earlier, (WM outclasses Ares? Ares=Hercules)
she beat on Rulk so hard his face was gushing blood. lastly strength? 100+. note the plus. She-Hulk amps. she is a Hulk after all....
CATMANEXE said:
"stronger? well by her last entry in the Handbook She-Hulk is 100+

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She-Hulk lifting the Thing’s maximum weight and throwing an armwrestling match to Hercules

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an example of Hercs strength
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while Herc is no slouch by far, She-Hulk pretty much either beats or toatls her opponents. She was trained
by Captain America and has had much more since. She beat War Machine , Thunderstrike, The Avengers,
Starfox, Titania, The Wrecking Crew, Namor, the Champion, Abomination, Rhino (right after he 1-shotted
Nova into orbit), Doc Sampson, The All Winners Squad, Rogue, Captain Britain, X-factor (current),
Grey Gargoyle (and shook off his stone effects), Dragon Man, Drax, Fantastic Force, the Living Monolith,
Behemoth,Super-Skrull and She-Thing all on her own and in all cases easily, owned and in most 1-shotted.
She fought her cousin Hulk and held up on several occasions. She actually got the upper hand on Thor.
She beat on Rulk so bad he was bleeding out of his face.

good fight but im taking She-Hulk for the majority.
"

when i said she beat these guys...i mean she PWN'D almost all of them. alot of them werent even fights. i am talking
fast drops, hard beatdowns and 1-shots across the city. see War Machine and Thunderstrike, 1-shots through the air for both. by your own ABC logic then... She-Hulk>War Machine>Ares (God Of War, son of Zeus, rival of Hercules). sounds a little off to me.

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#170  Edited By Theracles
CATMANEXE said:
"Vance Astro said:
"CATMANEXE said:
"character being stronger doesnt make another characters strength dissapear, likewise, with any other traits powers, and it doesnt make a win. in alot of cases a weaker character beats a stronger or better in some other area. for example, War Machine dropping Ares, Colossus knocking out Sym (ehile i limbo nontheless). She-Hulk is a great example of beating or getting ground on other characters that are exceptionally above her as i listed above. im sticking with Shulkie here.Vance Astro said:
"PrinceIMC said:
"Yeah seeing the new She-Hulk battle the old will be good.I don't currently read She-Hulk, I stopped shortly after it was relaunched after she beat Titania with the Power Gem but she didn't look as big as she did in the previous volume when she worked out constantly as Jen Walters in order to increase her strength exponentially to fight Champion. I assumed she stopped hitting the weights constantly because otherwise she'd still look like a female body builder as Jen."
She-Hulk is always training.Never quits.When she's not she's going after cases like Daredevil.
"
same with Herc, except when he's waiting on a call from Jen thats never going to happen or hanging out on Earth somewhere."
Hercules isn't just stronger than She-Hulk.He's alot more durable.Almost nothing hurts him.I have seen him hit with weapons specially designed to kill him and he lived.
She-Hulk might be a better fighter than Hercules but it's still not enough for it to make a difference.She's smarter than him as well but again,I don't see how that will help.She can't make him hurt himself and she could use her intellect to get more hits but even if he let's her get her shots in she doesn't have much of a chance of knocking him out.

War Machine dropping Ares is supposed to mean what? War Machine outclasses Ares in everything except fighting skill.
I don't know who or what Sym is so I can't comment on that.
She-Hulk has never beaten anyone she shouldn't have.The closest thing she has done to that was daze Thor.All her other wins are was because of her being superior in strength or fighting skill.Rulk and Hulk who are both stronger than her as far as I know have never lost to her in a fair one on one.
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re: read the statement i wrote first that you seemed to have been commentating on earlier, (WM outclasses Ares? Ares=Hercules)
she beat on Rulk so hard his face was gushing blood. lastly strength? 100+. note the plus. She-Hulk amps. she is a Hulk after all....
CATMANEXE said:
"stronger? well by her last entry in the Handbook She-Hulk is 100+

small examples
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She-Hulk lifting the Thing’s maximum weight and throwing an armwrestling match to Hercules

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an example of Hercs strength
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while Herc is no slouch by far, She-Hulk pretty much either beats or toatls her opponents. She was trained
by Captain America and has had much more since. She beat War Machine , Thunderstrike, The Avengers,
Starfox, Titania, The Wrecking Crew, Namor, the Champion, Abomination, Rhino (right after he 1-shotted
Nova into orbit), Doc Sampson, The All Winners Squad, Rogue, Captain Britain, X-factor (current),
Grey Gargoyle (and shook off his stone effects), Dragon Man, Drax, Fantastic Force, the Living Monolith,
Behemoth,Super-Skrull and She-Thing all on her own and in all cases easily, owned and in most 1-shotted.
She fought her cousin Hulk and held up on several occasions. She actually got the upper hand on Thor.
She beat on Rulk so bad he was bleeding out of his face.

good fight but im taking She-Hulk for the majority.
"

when i said she beat these guys...i mean she PWN'D almost all of them. alot of them werent even fights. i am talking
fast drops, hard beatdowns and 1-shots across the city. see War Machine and Thunderstrike, 1-shots through the air for both. by your own ABC logic then... She-Hulk>War Machine>Ares (God Of War, son of Zeus, rival of Hercules). sounds a little off to me."

Hercules has disposed of Ares pretty easily on many occasions, Ares is able to lift 70 tons while Hercules has lifted over thousands of tons. She-Hulk cannot defeat Red Hulk, she needed help from other female superheroes to defeat him, Red Hulk humiliated her on their first encounter, by what you said you are actually saying that She-Hulk is stronger than even the Hulk who was defeated by Red Hulk since you said She-Hulk beat Red Hulk so bad. Anyway Hercules wins, you can post as many She-Hulk feats as you want they don't compare to Hercules' feats of strength, just so you know Hercules has dragged the island of Manhattan that weighs over 99 billion tons, lifted and tossed Marvel's version of Godzilla that weighs 60,000 tons, lifted and hurled a Giant Sequoia, lifted a starhsip, cause The Thing to submit and dropkick a bulldoze, those feats over 100 class strength. I don't think Hercules considers Ares a rival however I'm not sure about the rival thing, Hercules has always considered Thor as his rival.
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#171  Edited By PowerHerc
@Ms. Invisible:
Interestingly, when they finally did get together in She-Hulk's book before it was cancelled; they did'nt even bother with the hotel room.  They did it in Jen and Jazinda'a van.  And it was Jen whom felt like she had been lucky to have been with Herc!  Then she kicked him out and drove off leaving him feeling used and confused!   Kind of a reversal of conventionally assumed gender roles, huh?
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#172  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Hercules.

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#173  Edited By TheGreatOne
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I think Hercules would beat her down then he would take her out for dinner, dancing and then to a hotel room!

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THIS
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#174  Edited By goldenshot80

The lion of olympus will win

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#175  Edited By PowerHerc
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"The lion of olympus will win "

Indeed!
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#176  Edited By jtwgeek

Well, if you go by Marvel's official ratings She Hulk and Hercules are dead even in strength, durability, and fighting skills. She Hulk however is faster than he is, and smarter. Those two advantages alone would make a huge difference when you have two world class bricks like these two fighting. Hercules has been fighting for a very long time admitedly, but there is only so much skill you can actually have. Despite his strength Hercules is not fast. And he is lacking something that She Hulk has. Regenerative powers. Every hit she lands on him? Will slow him down. Where as every hit he lands on her will have a lot less impact as she constantly regenerates the damage that's dealt. The only hope Hercules would have of winning a prolonged fight with someone who is of equal strength as him, just as skilled a fighter as him, but is also faster, smarter, and heals faster? Would be to knock her out in the opening moments of the fight. Which is /highly/ unlikely to happen. The fight would be long and hard, but in the end She Hulk's superior speed and regeneration would see her through the fight and leave Herc defeated.

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#177  Edited By Sylvain

Hercules

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Herc.

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@jtwgeek: I don't know where you're getting this information. She Hulk isn't as strong or durable as Hercules. I don't know how good her fighting skills are though. I don't know how fast she is, but I do know that she's not to fast for Hercules to react to her. But she is smarter. That much is true. Hercules does have regeneration. The reason he doesn't use it is because he rarely needs it. He's so durable that it's rarely used. Same thing with Thor.

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hercules wins

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she hulk lifts grimms max strength with one arm!!! WHAT????????????????? tell me that's not bullcrap..

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When has he been called that.

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http://marvel.wikia.com/Hercules_(Earth-616)

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Hurc for the merk.

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Hercules would demolish Jen

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#192  Edited By jeffcom

the she hulk series was a joke written for comedic effect her being stronger than herc beating champion 4th wall all BS just for fun not CANON DONT ATTRIBUTE THESE THINGS TO HER SHE IS NOT THAT POWERFUL

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@angrir: SHE HULK HAS LOADS OD BS INVOLVED WITH HER ...STRONGER THAN HERC BEATING CHAMPION ...4TH WALL ..SHE IS STRONG AND A GREAT CHARACTER BUT SHE IS NOT THAT STRONG

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Hercules outclasses her. Hercules wins.

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Hercules is out of her league.

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Yeah what everyone up There said best that logic....^^°

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Herc stomps,this is a mismatch.

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Hercules.