what made a 3 year old thread get revived?
Hercules Vs Sentry
@Vance Astro said:
@jeanroygrant said:No he's not.@Vance Astro said:
Sentry would win every time.He outclasses Hercules in every way accept fighting skill which if he fights to the best of his ability it doesn't matter because Hercules isn't fast enough to hang with Sentry.Hercules is physically stronger.
I say thy nay. Hercules>Sentry Physical strength.
As much as I hate him , Sentry wins here .
Chaos War Hercules on the other hand......................
Herc already won. I don't get all this "if he was mad!" nonsense. They had a fight, Hercules won. How does that get dismissed so easily, and anyone who doesn't question their own lying eyes is out of their mind. Does not compute.
Bloodlusted Sentry would win, I'll give you all that.
reynolds is a flea to Chaos War Hercules ....
@jeanroygrant said:
@Vance Astro said:
@jeanroygrant said:No he's not.@Vance Astro said:
Sentry would win every time.He outclasses Hercules in every way accept fighting skill which if he fights to the best of his ability it doesn't matter because Hercules isn't fast enough to hang with Sentry.Hercules is physically stronger.
I say thy nay. Hercules>Sentry Physical strength.
For sooth!!
It's not nonsense.Herc has never beaten Sentry.When they fought during Dark Reign, Sentry wasn't even fighting back...and Amadeus Cho suggested he flee, which he did.Herc already won. I don't get all this "if he was mad!" nonsense.
@jeanroygrant
said:Based on what feats?I say thy nay. Hercules>Sentry Physical strength.
@Stronger said:
There isn't a single scan you can post that would prove that Hercules can beat Sentry.Unless you post something out of context or non canon, Sentry has clearly shown to be Herc's superior. Even if we pretend Hercules is physically stronger than Sentry (which he isn't) if he could cause physical harm to World War Hulk, there is no reason he couldn't do the same to Hercules.Not to mention his massive long range advantage with his energy projection and flight, plus he's faster than Herc by a huge margin.Hercules wins.I can post some scans if you want.
@Vance Astro said:
@spiderbuck said:It's not nonsense.Herc has never beaten Sentry.When they fought during Dark Reign, Sentry wasn't even fighting back...and Amadeus Cho suggested he flee, which he did.Herc already won. I don't get all this "if he was mad!" nonsense.
.... because back up was on the way and Cho ran the numbers, so on and so forth.
You might not like it, but that was a fight, and Hercules won it. If bets were laid on who would win a fight between the two, and 128 come out, you'd be paying up. It's not like Osborn said "go out there and get thrown around. I need you to really humiliate yourself." ... then Sentry wasn't really fighting, he was playing penuckle. If he did not want to fight, he would have not be flying fist first into anyone. He would have stopped about 5 ft away and talk. Not every fight is to the death, and but that was a fight, and Hercules won it. I don't see how that's so controversial.
Did you even read the words? Sentry is clearly not fighting back until the fight is basically over so please stop trying to use a fight that clearly has variables in it to make a case.In battle forums we are supposed to take them at their best.This has nothing to do with what I like.If you read the comic you know that Sentry wasn't giving Hercules his best so I don't understand why you're baffled that the fight is being dismissed..... because back up was on the way and Cho ran the numbers, so on and so forth.
You might not like it, but that was a fight, and Hercules won it. If bets were laid on who would win a fight between the two, and 128 come out, you'd be paying up. Not every fight is to the death, and but that was a fight, and Hercules won it.
@Vance Astro said:
@spiderbuck said:Did you even read the words? Sentry is clearly not fighting back until the fight is basically over so please stop trying to use a fight that clearly has variables in it to make a case.In battle forums we are supposed to take them at their best.This has nothing to do with what I like.If you read the comic you know that Sentry wasn't giving Hercules his best so I don't understand why you're baffled that the fight is being dismissed..... because back up was on the way and Cho ran the numbers, so on and so forth.
You might not like it, but that was a fight, and Hercules won it. If bets were laid on who would win a fight between the two, and 128 come out, you'd be paying up. Not every fight is to the death, and but that was a fight, and Hercules won it.
So you're saying what the world saw as Sentry throwing a punch at Hercules, was actually a high five attempt gone horribly wrong?
I'm sorry, but when someone throws a punch .... that's a fight. This was a fight that Herc won. Pretty handily as well.
My problem isn't whether it's considered a fight or not.My problem is that you think it's a valid showing for what would ACTUALLY happen in a fight between them when clearly the WORDS in the book suggest that Sentry is holding back.If Sentry was giving it his all, OBVIOUSLY it would have been a different outcome.So you're saying what the world saw as Sentry throwing a punch at Hercules, was actually a high five attempt gone horribly wrong?
I'm sorry, but when someone throws a punch .... that's a fight.
@Vance Astro said:
@spiderbuck said:My problem isn't whether it's considered a fight or not.My problem is that you think it's a valid showing for what would ACTUALLY happen in a fight between them when clearly the WORDS in the book suggest that Sentry is holding back.If Sentry was giving it his all, OBVIOUSLY it would have been a different outcome.So you're saying what the world saw as Sentry throwing a punch at Hercules, was actually a high five attempt gone horribly wrong?
I'm sorry, but when someone throws a punch .... that's a fight.
When talking about a fight that COULD happen, it's entirely reasonable to look to a fight that DID happen. How could it NOT be?? It's ridiculous to start looking into stats and who could lift what or who has what level of speed, and so forth but ignore a past encounter.
I am not saying it is absolutely conclusive as to what would happen in a separate encounter, but it is definitely evidence that should be introduced in support of a conclusion one way or the other.
HERCULES' powers were upgraded in Chaos War (i think) so i'm not sure. If it goes to best of 5 i'm gonna have to say Sentry 3 herc 2 maybe 4/1.
I don't have time for this.If you really don't understand why that fight isn't applicable to this battle, I don't have any reason to even respond anymore. There's no evidence of anything in that fight at all.When talking about a fight that COULD happen, it's entirely reasonable to look to a fight that DID happen. How could it NOT be?? It's ridiculous to start looking into stats and who could lift what or who has what level of speed, and so forth but ignore a past encounter.
I am not saying it is absolutely conclusive as to what would happen in a separate encounter, but it is definitely evidence that should be introduced for in support of a conclusion one way or the other.
@Vance Astro said:
@spiderbuck said:I don't have time for this.If you really don't understand why that fight isn't applicable to this battle, I don't have any reason to even respond anymore. There's no evidence of anything in that fight at all.When talking about a fight that COULD happen, it's entirely reasonable to look to a fight that DID happen. How could it NOT be?? It's ridiculous to start looking into stats and who could lift what or who has what level of speed, and so forth but ignore a past encounter.
I am not saying it is absolutely conclusive as to what would happen in a separate encounter, but it is definitely evidence that should be introduced for in support of a conclusion one way or the other.
Yeah. How ridiculous would it be to consider a past fight when predicting the outcome of a hypothetical encounter.
Hercules wins, .... because Hercules WON.
Saying it again doesn't make it right.Yeah. How ridiculous would it be to consider a past fight when predicting the outcome of a hypothetical encounter.
Hercules wins, .... because Hercules WON.
Sentry dominated Ares in combat and then ripped him in half.I see this ending quite like the Ares fight... now how did that go again?
Out of context. Sentry was holding back.@Vance Astro:
I got a two more scans,but I am to bored to post them..........
@spiderbuck said:
@Vance Astro said:
@spiderbuck said:I don't have time for this.If you really don't understand why that fight isn't applicable to this battle, I don't have any reason to even respond anymore. There's no evidence of anything in that fight at all.When talking about a fight that COULD happen, it's entirely reasonable to look to a fight that DID happen. How could it NOT be?? It's ridiculous to start looking into stats and who could lift what or who has what level of speed, and so forth but ignore a past encounter.
I am not saying it is absolutely conclusive as to what would happen in a separate encounter, but it is definitely evidence that should be introduced for in support of a conclusion one way or the other.
Yeah. How ridiculous would it be to consider a past fight when predicting the outcome of a hypothetical encounter.
Hercules wins, .... because Hercules WON.
Lots of things happen in comics. Spider-man beat fire lord, curbstomped the hulk, nearly dropped thor, and up before. Doesn't mean it should happen. Dare devil has fought hulk before and actually effected him with his punch, doesn't mean it should happen. Captain america wrecked hulk with ridiculous ease, doesn't mean it should happen. 1 fight isn't proof of anything especially a fight when 1 character wasn't going full out. Characters job all the time. We should look at multiple showings of each, as far as I'm concerned sentry is to fast for herc.
@jashro44 said:
@Stronger said:Out of context. Sentry was holding back.@Vance Astro:
I got a two more scans,but I am to bored to post them..........
@spiderbuck said:Lots of things happen in comics. Spider-man beat fire lord, curbstomped the hulk, nearly dropped thor, and up before. Doesn't mean it should happen. Dare devil has fought hulk before and actually effected him with his punch, doesn't mean it should happen. Captain america wrecked hulk with ridiculous ease, doesn't mean it should happen. 1 fight isn't proof of anything especially a fight when 1 character wasn't going full out. Characters job all the time. We should look at multiple showings of each, as far as I'm concerned sentry is to fast for herc.@Vance Astro said:
@spiderbuck said:I don't have time for this.If you really don't understand why that fight isn't applicable to this battle, I don't have any reason to even respond anymore. There's no evidence of anything in that fight at all.When talking about a fight that COULD happen, it's entirely reasonable to look to a fight that DID happen. How could it NOT be?? It's ridiculous to start looking into stats and who could lift what or who has what level of speed, and so forth but ignore a past encounter.
I am not saying it is absolutely conclusive as to what would happen in a separate encounter, but it is definitely evidence that should be introduced for in support of a conclusion one way or the other.
Yeah. How ridiculous would it be to consider a past fight when predicting the outcome of a hypothetical encounter.
Hercules wins, .... because Hercules WON.
I dont see Sentry being to fast for Herc in this scan.
And man chill out!!!! This is comics,not reality,many things happen that shouldnt happen.Killer Croc should have been better than Bane and he isnt even to Damian Wayne,Batman should lose to every other character who has superpowers cause he hasnt,Sandman always loses to Spider-man,Flash should solo the entire freaking DC universe with his powers and it isnt even sure thing that he can beat Hal Jordan etc....
Not true. Lots of battles sentry had were better then the hercules one. His showing against ultron, his showing against ww hulk (when he just stood there and slugged it out with ww hulk), his showing against terrax when he effortlessly beat him, etc.@jashro44: And Sentry doesnt have any better battles on record other than Ares.
What part of SENTRY WAS HOLDING BACK don't you understand?I dont see Sentry being to fast for Herc in this scan.
And man chill out!!!! This is comics,not reality,many things happen that shouldnt happen.Killer Croc should have been better than Bane and he isnt even to Damian Wayne,Batman should lose to every other character who has superpowers cause he hasnt,Sandman always loses to Spider-man,Flash should solo the entire freaking DC universe with his powers and it isnt even sure thing that he can beat Hal Jordan etc....
@jashro44 said:
@Stronger said:Not true. Lots of battles sentry had were better then the hercules one. His showing against ultron, his showing against ww hulk (when he just stood there and slugged it out with ww hulk), his showing against terrax when he effortlessly beat him, etc.@jashro44: And Sentry doesnt have any better battles on record other than Ares.
They only worthy battle you have posted was the one with Terrax.
@Vance Astro: True Sentry was ideed holding back.Hercules ,on the other hand, was holding back too.
So this fight doesn't matter at all.
@Vance Astro: True Sentry was ideed holding back.Hercules ,on the other hand, was holding back too.
Right, because somehow going shot for shot with World War Hulk isn't mentionable against Hercules who is not only weaker but was in the same series and couldn't pull it off himself.They only worthy battle you have posted was the one with Terrax.
"Hey guys, did you see that awesome fight between Hercules and Sentry?" REply: "No, I just saw Hercules and then I didn't see Hercules"
Sentry isn't physically stronger than Hercules but the thing is that he can charge his punches with energy projection, that being said Sentry punch a lot harder than hercules is faster and can use range attacks. Sentry wins...
Sentry got put fown by a dropped Helicarrier. Herc would have laughed it off so durability level goes to Herc easy.
If Hulk can land hits on Sentry why couldn't Herc? If Thor can land hits on Sentry why couldn't Herc? Ok Herc can't fly into sun and drop him off but Hercs punches/mace hits equal Thor with Mjolnir and Thor messed him up pretty bad. Sentry is to inconsistent to say against his best showings, human torch defeated Sentry by setting him on fire lmao.
I'm going with Herc here he has defeated bigger and tougher (SKRULL ELDER GODS)
Sentry ripped Ares (Hercs nemesis, who he has had difficulty fighting) in half with his bare hands. He easily wins.
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