i say that herc beats sentry in strength,combat, and thats it but sentry is supossed to be the most powerful hero on earth in full power so i'll go with sentry ftw
"Sentry easily. He has every advantage over him. "
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Apart from the fact that Sentry's fighting skill is virtually non-existant and Hercules has thousnads of years experience in hand to hand combat.
Anyway, although Hercules might be the greater fighter, Sentry has a much greater reaction speed advantage, can fly and has look range attack options (via his energy emissions) that should enable him to win.
"Sentry easily. He has every advantage over him. "
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Apart from the fact that Sentry's fighting skill is virtually non-existant and Hercules has thousnads of years experience in hand to hand combat.
Anyway, although Hercules might be the greater fighter, Sentry has a much greater reaction speed advantage, can fly and has look range attack options (via his energy emissions) that should enable him to win."
Experience won't mean much in this fight when Sentry is faster, stronger and more durable than Hercules is.
Experience won't mean much in this fight when Sentry is faster, stronger and more durable than Hercules is. "
I don't don't yet believe that Sentry is clearly stronger than Hercules. Yes he is faster but to straight kinectic damage, again I don't see that much to set them apart in durability either. A good example of this is the blows they took from WWH. Both withstood a few blows but both showed physical damage from it (bleeding, bruising etc).
Experience won't mean much in this fight when Sentry is faster, stronger and more durable than Hercules is. "
I don't don't yet believe that Sentry is clearly stronger than Hercules. Yes he is faster but to straight kinectic damage, again I don't see that much to set them apart in durability either. A good example of this is the blows they took from WWH. Both withstood a few blows but both showed physical damage from it (bleeding, bruising etc). "
well seeing as how Hercules got owned by WWH and Sentry did not I think that proves Sentry is stronger. Also Sentry has the void and with that power combined with his own is just overkill.
"well seeing as how Hercules got owned by WWH and Sentry did not I think that proves Sentry is stronger. Also Sentry has the void and with that power combined with his own is just overkill."
Hercules did not defend himself but let WWH hit him a few times. He did not attempt to fight back so how was this getting owned by WWH. How does this specific feat (of engaging WWH in battle) actually then make Sentry stronger. Please explain.
If you read the starting post, it does not mention Sentry having the Void powers as well.
I think Herc is just as strong, but as the Creator says, Sentry's speed, flight and energy powers would be a deciding factor. Herc is a bettef fighter but he isn't that samrt, he would just try to out fight him, which would be a mistake.
I love Herc, but I will go with Sentry for a slight win margin.
"The recent Hercules has made this a battle that he could win.he seemed to be toying with him. called him a pretty boy who needs to learn to fight. "
Hercules is outclassed in everything except fighting skill and Hercules was just recently told he has a lack of it...I don't see how he has much of a chance against Sentry.
"The recent Hercules has made this a battle that he could win.he seemed to be toying with him. called him a pretty boy who needs to learn to fight. "
Hercules is outclassed in everything except fighting skill and Hercules was just recently told he has a lack of it...I don't see how he has much of a chance against Sentry."
"The recent Hercules has made this a battle that he could win.he seemed to be toying with him. called him a pretty boy who needs to learn to fight. "
Hercules is outclassed in everything except fighting skill and Hercules was just recently told he has a lack of it...I don't see how he has much of a chance against Sentry."
Not in the recent comic. Hercules threw him around cause of his superior fighting skills. He even stop a punch from Sentry. I will say that in Sentry's defense, he was holding back, but that's the risk when you have a power you can't control and if you let go, it would risk the lives of those you are protecting.
"The recent Hercules has made this a battle that he could win.he seemed to be toying with him. called him a pretty boy who needs to learn to fight. "
Hercules is outclassed in everything except fighting skill and Hercules was just recently told he has a lack of it...I don't see how he has much of a chance against Sentry."
"The recent Hercules has made this a battle that he could win.he seemed to be toying with him. called him a pretty boy who needs to learn to fight. "
Hercules is outclassed in everything except fighting skill and Hercules was just recently told he has a lack of it...I don't see how he has much of a chance against Sentry."
Not in strength either."
In strength too."
What feat have you seen from Sentry to match Hercules?
"The recent Hercules has made this a battle that he could win.he seemed to be toying with him. called him a pretty boy who needs to learn to fight. "
Hercules is outclassed in everything except fighting skill and Hercules was just recently told he has a lack of it...I don't see how he has much of a chance against Sentry."
Not in strength either."
In strength too."
What feat have you seen from Sentry to match Hercules?"
I haven't seen any feats.I know Sentry is stronger than him.
"The recent Hercules has made this a battle that he could win.he seemed to be toying with him. called him a pretty boy who needs to learn to fight. "
Hercules is outclassed in everything except fighting skill and Hercules was just recently told he has a lack of it...I don't see how he has much of a chance against Sentry."
Not in strength either."
In strength too."
What feat have you seen from Sentry to match Hercules?"
I haven't seen any feats.I know Sentry is stronger than him."
It's good to go on your feelings. Doesn't do well in a debate though.
Well so far based on feats, Hercules is stronger. But I'm not saying that. I'm saying Herc could match his strength (that has been shown so far)
"The recent Hercules has made this a battle that he could win.he seemed to be toying with him. called him a pretty boy who needs to learn to fight. "
Hercules is outclassed in everything except fighting skill and Hercules was just recently told he has a lack of it...I don't see how he has much of a chance against Sentry."
Not in the recent comic. Hercules threw him around cause of his superior fighting skills. He even stop a punch from Sentry. I will say that in Sentry's defense, he was holding back, but that's the risk when you have a power you can't control and if you let go, it would risk the lives of those you are protecting. "
I'm not arguing for Sentry anymore.It's too hard to know what he actually will do,what he can't do,or whether he was fighting to the best of his ability at any time in comics.His showings are crazy inconsistent and Marvel has yet to just actually come out and say what his definite powers are.The handbook says one thing but then the comics show him doing things not mentioned or not doing things that are said to be his powers.It's ridiculous.
"The recent Hercules has made this a battle that he could win.he seemed to be toying with him. called him a pretty boy who needs to learn to fight. "
Hercules is outclassed in everything except fighting skill and Hercules was just recently told he has a lack of it...I don't see how he has much of a chance against Sentry."
Not in the recent comic. Hercules threw him around cause of his superior fighting skills. He even stop a punch from Sentry. I will say that in Sentry's defense, he was holding back, but that's the risk when you have a power you can't control and if you let go, it would risk the lives of those you are protecting. "
I'm not arguing for Sentry anymore.It's too hard to know what he actually will do,what he can't do,or whether he was fighting to the best of his ability at any time in comics.His showings are crazy inconsistent and Marvel has yet to just actually come out and say what his definite powers are.The handbook says one thing but then the comics show him doing things not mentioned or not doing things that are said to be his powers.It's ridiculous."
The inconsistencies that what is listed as what a character is capable of and what is shown in comics is the same for most characters.
Look at Cage. He is just 25 tons with titanium hard skin and has beat Doc Samson and gone toe to toe with Wonder Man. And I'm not even gonna start on Juggernaut and the Hulk.
The inconsistencies that what is listed as what a character is capable of and what is shown in comics is the same for most characters. Look at Cage. He is just 25 tons with titanium hard skin and has beat Doc Samson and gone toe to toe with Wonder Man. And I'm not even gonna start on Juggernaut and the Hulk.I'm just saying i get where your coming from. "
The first sentence either makes no sense or i'm reading it wrong.I don't know how to respond because I don't know what you're trying to say.As far as Luke Cage he doesn't have the same level of inconsistencies as Sentry.We know exactly what Cage's powers are.They never change.If the handbook or the comics say he is superhuman in all areas accept agility and he has super strength,that's what he has..he's not going to pop up in the next issue with super hearing and be able to teleport.He also won't forget how to use any of his powers are be scared of himself when it's convient to get him out of the battle.
The inconsistencies that what is listed as what a character is capable of and what is shown in comics is the same for most characters. Look at Cage. He is just 25 tons with titanium hard skin and has beat Doc Samson and gone toe to toe with Wonder Man. And I'm not even gonna start on Juggernaut and the Hulk.I'm just saying i get where your coming from. "
The first sentence either makes no sense or i'm reading it wrong.I don't know how to respond because I don't know what you're trying to say.As far as Luke Cage he doesn't have the same level of inconsistencies as Sentry.We know exactly what Cage's powers are.They never change.If the handbook or the comics say he is superhuman in all areas accept agility and he has super strength,that's what he has..he's not going to pop up in the next issue with super hearing and be able to teleport.He also won't forget how to use any of his powers are be scared of himself when it's convient to get him out of the battle."
The thing is: Most characters are listed as being this or that, but most writers show them in a actual story as something else. I used Cage as an example. Based on his official bio, he shouldn't beat someone who is is more than 3x stronger and more durable, but he did.
The inconsistencies that what is listed as what a character is capable of and what is shown in comics is the same for most characters. Look at Cage. He is just 25 tons with titanium hard skin and has beat Doc Samson and gone toe to toe with Wonder Man. And I'm not even gonna start on Juggernaut and the Hulk.I'm just saying i get where your coming from. "
The first sentence either makes no sense or i'm reading it wrong.I don't know how to respond because I don't know what you're trying to say.As far as Luke Cage he doesn't have the same level of inconsistencies as Sentry.We know exactly what Cage's powers are.They never change.If the handbook or the comics say he is superhuman in all areas accept agility and he has super strength,that's what he has..he's not going to pop up in the next issue with super hearing and be able to teleport.He also won't forget how to use any of his powers are be scared of himself when it's convient to get him out of the battle."
The thing is: Most characters are listed as being this or that, but most writers show them in a actual story as something else. I used Cage as an example. Based on his official bio, he shouldn't beat someone who is is more than 3x stronger and more durable, but he did. "
Who beat who is not what i'm getting at.Sentry is stated to have powers he doesn't use and he is also stated to not have powers that he has used.His power and strength grows with mental stability like Gladiator's goes down with confidence..but how are we to know how they feel? The only times you know Sentry is actually unstable is when he's clearly scared or really angry.Are we to assume his low showing are because he's depowering himself by being a nut job or are the writers just terrible?
The inconsistencies that what is listed as what a character is capable of and what is shown in comics is the same for most characters. Look at Cage. He is just 25 tons with titanium hard skin and has beat Doc Samson and gone toe to toe with Wonder Man. And I'm not even gonna start on Juggernaut and the Hulk.I'm just saying i get where your coming from. "
The first sentence either makes no sense or i'm reading it wrong.I don't know how to respond because I don't know what you're trying to say.As far as Luke Cage he doesn't have the same level of inconsistencies as Sentry.We know exactly what Cage's powers are.They never change.If the handbook or the comics say he is superhuman in all areas accept agility and he has super strength,that's what he has..he's not going to pop up in the next issue with super hearing and be able to teleport.He also won't forget how to use any of his powers are be scared of himself when it's convient to get him out of the battle."
The thing is: Most characters are listed as being this or that, but most writers show them in a actual story as something else. I used Cage as an example. Based on his official bio, he shouldn't beat someone who is is more than 3x stronger and more durable, but he did. "
Who beat who is not what i'm getting at.Sentry is stated to have powers he doesn't use and he is also stated to not have powers that he has used.His power and strength grows with mental stability like Gladiator's goes down with confidence..but how are we to know how they feel? The only times you know Sentry is actually unstable is when he's clearly scared or really angry.Are we to assume his low showing are because he's depowering himself by being a nut job or are the writers just terrible?"
Yes! He would lose control if he let go (like he did in WWHulk). He is much more powerful than he is now. He just isn't as powerful as everyone is trying to make him. He is a Superman level character in my opinion, but people want to say he could beat Galactus, the Phoenix and others on that level. He is high herald level in my opinion.
The writers are in fact terrible, however herc is just simply out classed in every way. That just like herc fighting sups with crazy a** telapthic powers to boost. Total a** whooping and mind rape.
I agree with what people are saying, Herc is good but all Herc has is skill and maybe endurance....what good is that when you can't fly, and Sentry uses ranged attacks. Plus Sentry is much stronger than Herc.
"The recent Hercules has made this a battle that he could win.he seemed to be toying with him. called him a pretty boy who needs to learn to fight. "
Hercules is outclassed in everything except fighting skill and Hercules was just recently told he has a lack of it...I don't see how he has much of a chance against Sentry."
Not in strength either."
In strength too."
When the evidence is there to back that up, then yes. Until then, no.
"The writers are in fact terrible, however herc is just simply out classed in every way. That just like herc fighting sups with crazy a** telapthic powers to boost. Total a** whooping and mind rape."
I agree that if Sentry had the power that he is described to have, he should beat Hercules. But he doesn't.
And because of that, he doesn't outclass Hercules in strength. I've only seen the Hulk surpass him in shown feats on strength (as far as Marvel).
I will say this, everything im saying is based on sentry being at full power and his right frame of mind unless stated other wise. Sentry is one of the most powerful being in the marvel universe if he's at is prime it will be a good fight but herc woudnt last long, Demi god ot not.
"I will say this, everything im saying is based on sentry being at full power and his right frame of mind unless stated other wise. Sentry is one of the most powerful being in the marvel universe if he's at is prime it will be a good fight but herc woudnt last long, Demi god ot not."
Thid one is closer than some people think, but in terms of total sum of power Senty has the advantage. Hercules IS stronger, but not much. Hercules has more stamina, but is that enough? Hercules totally out-classes Sentry in both fighting skills and experience. Sentry has to hold back from full use of all the power of "a billion exploding suns" because unleashing said power could potentially destroy the world (as seen in WWH). Herc has to hold back from using his full strength in nearly every encounter he finds himself in, lest he revisit the sins/mistakes of his past causing untold collateral damage, death and unimaginable guilt. Herc would triumph in a fight with Sentry from time to time but with both going all out for the win, Sentry takes the win. Hercules is still the stronger of the two, though, ranking only behind the Hulk (when at maximum rage).
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