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#1 Edited by laflux (16018 posts) - - Show Bio

Kratos is not immortal however, he has all the power's and equipment he displayed in G.O.W before he fights Zeus in God of war 3.

Hercules has not been depowered, but he has none of the equipment given to him which he uses now.

Blood lust in on - Although Kratos is always blood lusted.

Fight takes place in an abandoned New-York.

vs go

#2 Posted by laflux (16018 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going for Kratos here

#3 Posted by eatmore_payless (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

Kratos totally owned GOW's Herc, but I dont know if he can do it to Marvel Herc too

#4 Posted by Dex_Starr (4772 posts) - - Show Bio

If you're talking about Hercules pre Chaos War, he'd rip Kratos in half.

Chaos War Hercules would blink the entire God of War cast out of existence

Post Chaos War Hercules would lose.

#5 Posted by eatmore_payless (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dex_Starr said:

If you're talking about Hercules pre Chaos War, he'd rip Kratos in half.

Chaos War Hercules would blink the entire God of War cast out of existence

Post Chaos War Hercules would lose.

give me some feats of him please

#6 Posted by laflux (16018 posts) - - Show Bio

If herc is infused with the god power, then i would give the battle to him. If not a just his "normal" superhuman self, then i think its an easy kratos win

#7 Posted by Dex_Starr (4772 posts) - - Show Bio

@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr said:

If you're talking about Hercules pre Chaos War, he'd rip Kratos in half.

Chaos War Hercules would blink the entire God of War cast out of existence

Post Chaos War Hercules would lose.

give me some feats of him please

Of who?

@laflux said:

If herc is infused with the god power, then i would give the battle to him. If not a just his "normal" superhuman self, then i think its an easy kratos win

His normal superhuman self was capable of fight characters like Thor..he'd rip Kratos in half.

#8 Posted by eatmore_payless (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dex_Starr: feats of Herc

#9 Posted by Dex_Starr (4772 posts) - - Show Bio

@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr: feats of Herc

Which version? Pre Chaos War or Post?

#10 Posted by eatmore_payless (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dex_Starr said:

@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr: feats of Herc

Which version? Pre Chaos War or Post?

pre chaos dude, Cuz I know the feats that you are going to give me will come in handy someday

#11 Posted by Dex_Starr (4772 posts) - - Show Bio

@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr: feats of Herc

Which version? Pre Chaos War or Post?

pre chaos dude, Cuz I know the feats that you are going to give me will come in handy someday

Hercules 128 had him dominating Sentry and Mac Gargan Venom at the same time. That was a pretty good one.

#12 Posted by eatmore_payless (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dex_Starr said:

@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr: feats of Herc

Which version? Pre Chaos War or Post?

pre chaos dude, Cuz I know the feats that you are going to give me will come in handy someday

Hercules 128 had him dominating Sentry and Mac Gargan Venom at the same time. That was a pretty good one.

wow that's hardcore man, is Sentry in his stable state cuz if he was then Herc is badass

#13 Posted by SuperTide (15600 posts) - - Show Bio

Kratos.

#14 Posted by Phylos (2644 posts) - - Show Bio

im torn.

#15 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dex_Starr said:

@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr: feats of Herc

Which version? Pre Chaos War or Post?

pre chaos dude, Cuz I know the feats that you are going to give me will come in handy someday

Hercules 128 had him dominating Sentry and Mac Gargan Venom at the same time. That was a pretty good one.

No, he didn't. Sentry was holding back and trying to convince Herc to stop. Sentry wasn't fighting with him at all.
 
@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@eatmore_payless said:

@Dex_Starr: feats of Herc

Which version? Pre Chaos War or Post?

pre chaos dude, Cuz I know the feats that you are going to give me will come in handy someday

Hercules 128 had him dominating Sentry and Mac Gargan Venom at the same time. That was a pretty good one.

wow that's hardcore man, is Sentry in his stable state cuz if he was then Herc is badass


Herc's strength is equal to Thor's. 
This is pretty good Herc's feat:
Herc and Thor perfectly equal in strength
They could destroy Earth as You can see. 
Herc's durability allows him to fight with people like Thor, Hulk or Namor (he won with Namor more than once). 
His skill is also one of the best in Marvel Earth, so yes, he is a powerhouse.
 
About fight:
 
Kratos ftw, thanks to Sword of Olympus.
#16 Posted by Azrael66 (277 posts) - - Show Bio

Kratos takes this. He's too ruthless and serious for Herc.

#17 Posted by Dex_Starr (4772 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666: Did I say Sentry was going all out?

#18 Posted by laflux (16018 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dex_Starr: your saying kratos couldn't give thor a good fight espicially with the nemean cestus

#19 Posted by Dex_Starr (4772 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@Dex_Starr: your saying kratos couldn't give thor a good fight espicially with the nemean cestus

No, Kratos cannot give Thor a good fight. Even with the gauntlet he got from GOW Hercules he would still get one shotted.

#20 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

Herc's got my vote here, although with the Blade of Olympus, Kratos could cause some damage.

#21 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMightyAvenger said:

Herc's got my vote here, although with the Blade of Olympus, Kratos could cause some damage.

Probably not. 616 Herc would rush Kratos and punch his head off.
#22 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dex_Starr said:

@czarny_samael666: Did I say Sentry was going all out?

It looked like that. I know that You just don't want to admitt that and that You've didn't say exactly that, but it was close enough. 
 
@Dex_Starr said:

@laflux said:

@Dex_Starr: your saying kratos couldn't give thor a good fight espicially with the nemean cestus

No, Kratos cannot give Thor a good fight. Even with the gauntlet he got from GOW Hercules he would still get one shotted.


With power of Sisters of Fate he can win that fight.
#23 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: I know, i'm giving Kratos the benefit of the doubt.

#24 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMightyAvenger: He doesn't deserve it!
#25 Edited by Dex_Starr (4772 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@czarny_samael666: Did I say Sentry was going all out?

It looked like that. I know that You just don't want to admitt that and that You've didn't say exactly that, but it was close enough.

Or maybe it's just your inability to interpret what was actually said. The guy asked for the impressive feat, I gave him one. Nothing more.

#26 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: Lol, why not ?

#27 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMightyAvenger: Because Kratos's abilities are severely overestimated and misunderstood. He will never be able to compete with comic heavyweights like Thor, Hercules, Wonder Woman, etc.
#28 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: True but their difference in speed isn't that great so he could, perhaps, land some hits.

#29 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMightyAvenger: I'm not putting it past him, but pre-CW Herc has pretty great durability, so I'm not sure if he would even take any damage.
#30 Posted by laflux (16018 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dex_Starr: all the crap Kratos has taken in gow hints to the fact that it would take more than more punch form Hercules to knock him out

#31 Posted by Dex_Starr (4772 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@Dex_Starr: all the crap Kratos has taken in gow hints to the fact that it would take more than more punch form Hercules to knock him out

Even if he could take a hit from Herc [and I doubt it] it doesn't mean he has a chance of actually winning.

#32 Posted by laflux (16018 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: again i think Kratos is durable enough so that one punch wouldn't take his head offf, even if it is from hercules

#33 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
@laflux said:

@Illuminatus: again i think Kratos is durable enough so that one punch wouldn't take his head offf, even if it is from hercules

See what Dex said above.
#34 Posted by laflux (16018 posts) - - Show Bio

Before anymore guys make a comment, ask yourself this, is Herc in gow 3 comparable to Herc in the comics and if so, why.

#35 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
@laflux said:

Before anymore guys make a comment, ask yourself this, is Herc in gow 3 comparable to Herc in the comics and if so, why.

No. Hercules in the comics is far stronger than GOW Herc, who has like zero strength feats.
#36 Posted by laflux (16018 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dex_Starr: it looks like sentry is going all out in that thread but when you think about it, Sentry can fly at light speed so that thread does seen like PIS. Also i didn't see superhuman reflexes as part of Herc's power grid.

#37 Posted by Dex_Starr (4772 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@Dex_Starr: it looks like sentry is going all out in that thread but when you think about it, Sentry can fly at light speed so that thread does seen like PIS. Also i didn't see superhuman reflexes as part of Herc's power grid.

Sentry can't fly at light speed.

#38 Posted by HellionVulcan (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

Hand to hand Hercules utter destroys Kratos but if Kratos has weapons & Hercules doesn't then kratos has a higher chance of winning .

#39 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
@HellionVulcan said:

Hand to hand Hercules utter destroys Kratos but if Kratos has weapons & Hercules doesn't then kratos has a higher chance of winning .

What's stopping Herc from taking Kratos's weapons from him?
#40 Posted by HellionVulcan (3782 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

@HellionVulcan said:

Hand to hand Hercules utter destroys Kratos but if Kratos has weapons & Hercules doesn't then kratos has a higher chance of winning .

What's stopping Herc from taking Kratos's weapons from him?

aren't they like bonded to Kratos ? tired to his arms guess if Herc's could disarm him kratos would be in massive trouble .

#41 Posted by laflux (16018 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: right so lifting the entire floor of the arena they were fighting in, which looked to be far more than 100 tons, besting Kratos in pure strength who is also massively strong, and performing a thunderclap so hard that it momentarily knocks Kratos out of his senses, who again who has super resistance and durability- isn't a show of massive of strength. Also remember that the labors that Hercules did in the comics, Herc in gow did too including lifting the earth instead of atlas. He refers to killing Kratos as his 13th an final labor, which of course it was.

#42 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
@HellionVulcan said:

@Illuminatus said:

@HellionVulcan said:

Hand to hand Hercules utter destroys Kratos but if Kratos has weapons & Hercules doesn't then kratos has a higher chance of winning .

What's stopping Herc from taking Kratos's weapons from him?

aren't they like bonded to Kratos ? tired to his arms guess if Herc's could disarm him kratos would be in massive trouble .

Pretty sure it's just the magical nature of the weapons that has the chains wrap around his arms and prevent them from flying off. At any rate, Herc should be strong enough to take them off.
#43 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
@laflux said:

@Illuminatus: right so lifting the entire floor of the arena they were fighting in, which looked to be far more than 100 tons, besting Kratos in pure strength who is also massively strong, and performing a thunderclap so hard that it momentarily knocks Kratos out of his senses, who again who has super resistance and durability- isn't a show of massive of strength. Also remember that the labors that Hercules did in the comics, Herc in gow did too including lifting the earth instead of atlas. He refers to killing Kratos as his 13th an final labor, which of course it was.

Kratos wasn't incredibly strong in GOW 3, so Hercules NOT besting him in strength would've been questionable. 616 has Herc has also performed thunderclaps. And I doubt it was 100 tons. 
 
Besides, 616 Herc pulled the entire island of Manhattan if I recall correctly. That alone trumps everything GOW Herc has ever done.
#44 Edited by laflux (16018 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: What do you mean kratos wasn't incredibly strong in gow 3. He was able to resist being crushed by Cronos and atlas, which is comparable in size to atlas in the comics. Herc did this in the comics, and this is one of his most incredible feats of strength in his comic book history, just as much as pulling Manhattan. Kratos also ripped Helios's head of in Gow 3, and did a whole lot of other stuff, like rip undead legionaries in half, push Gaia's hand of a cliff easily, which definitely weighed tens if not a hundred of tonnes. Gow seems to hint at him being among the strongest of all the god's and demigods, all of whom have superhuman strength. And i ain't just making this up. Look at http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Kratos to see his power's, and you can see the power's of the other god's there as well.

Also Kratos, being the god of war, is incredibly skilled in combat, and will show no hesitation to kill at the first opportunity given to him. He is definitely more skilled in combat than Herc in the comics, and as i said before Herc has no weapons. Kratos could just as easily rip out his soul with the claws of Hades or impale him with the blade of Olympus before Herc punches him, which is unlikely to K.O him.

#45 Edited by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
@laflux said:

@Illuminatus: What do mean kratos wasn't incredibly strong in gow 3. He was able to resist being crushed by Cronos and atlas, which is comparable in size to atlas. Herc did this in the comics, and is one of his most incredible feats of strength in his comic book history, just as much as pulling Manhattan. Kratos also ripped Helios's head of in Gow 3, and did a whole lot of other stuff, like rip undead legionaries in half, push Gaia's hand of a cliff easily, which definitely weighed tens if not a hundred of tonnes. Gow seems to hint at him being among the strongest of all the god's and demigods, all of whom have superhuman strength. And i ain't just making this up. Look at http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Kratos to see his power's, and you can see the power's of the other god's there as well.


He was strong, but obviously not as strong as he was in GOW 2. And Helios never had great durability to begin with, so I'm not sure why you're using that as a strength feat. I've also played the games, and although he was able to match almost every god in pure strength, a healthy majority of his wins had to do with the plot needing to be progressed and no actual logic thrown in. Kratos wouldv'e been killed in the first game if Ares really wanted it to happen. 
 
@laflux said:


Also Kratos, being the god of war, is incredibly skilled in combat, and will show no hesitation to kill at the first opportunity given to him. He is definitely more skilled in combat than Herc in the comics, and as i said before Herc has no weapons. Kratos could just as easily rip out his soul with the claws of Hades or impale him with the blade of Olympus before Herc punches him, which is unlikely to K.O him.

More skilled than Herc in the comics? No. Herc has invented various fighting styles and mastered countless ones, not too mention he has been fighting and training for thousands of years, while the same can't be said for Kratos. And what's stopping Herc from dodging these attacks?
#46 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: That's why I said that he could make some damage with the Blade of Olympus, I never said that he would. I'm just trying to give Kratos a chance, even if he has none.

#47 Posted by Dex_Starr (4772 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@Illuminatus: right so lifting the entire floor of the arena they were fighting in, which looked to be far more than 100 tons, besting Kratos in pure strength who is also massively strong, and performing a thunderclap so hard that it momentarily knocks Kratos out of his senses, who again who has super resistance and durability- isn't a show of massive of strength. Also remember that the labors that Hercules did in the comics, Herc in gow did too including lifting the earth instead of atlas. He refers to killing Kratos as his 13th an final labor, which of course it was.

He didn't even lift the entire thing, he lifted one half of it and tilted it over.

#48 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMightyAvenger said:

@Illuminatus: That's why I said that he could make some damage with the Blade of Olympus, I never said that he would. I'm just trying to give Kratos a chance, even if he has none.

It's possible.
#49 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dex_Starr said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@czarny_samael666: Did I say Sentry was going all out?

It looked like that. I know that You just don't want to admitt that and that You've didn't say exactly that, but it was close enough.

Or maybe it's just your inability to interpret what was actually said. The guy asked for the impressive feat, I gave him one. Nothing more.

No, it isn't, because Herc vs. Sentry isn't a feat at all. 
 
And Sentry can travel at light speed, but his best fight speed is something about microsecond reaction. 
 
@Illuminatus said:
@HellionVulcan said:

Hand to hand Hercules utter destroys Kratos but if Kratos has weapons & Hercules doesn't then kratos has a higher chance of winning .

What's stopping Herc from taking Kratos's weapons from him?

Kratos is far to fast for that. Herc doesn't have superspeed and Sword of Olympus can shoot him from distance.
#50 Edited by Dex_Starr (4772 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@czarny_samael666: Did I say Sentry was going all out?

It looked like that. I know that You just don't want to admitt that and that You've didn't say exactly that, but it was close enough.

Or maybe it's just your inability to interpret what was actually said. The guy asked for the impressive feat, I gave him one. Nothing more.

No, it isn't, because Herc vs. Sentry isn't a feat at all.

And Sentry can travel at light speed, but his best fight speed is something about microsecond reaction.

To YOU it isn't a feat, But I couldn't care less what you think because I'm pretty sure I never asked for your opinion on the matter.

Show Sentry flying at light speed, and show his microsecond reaction time. Because if it's anything close to your theory of Thor having nanosecond reaction time because he caught Rulk flying toward a black hole, I'm going to have a field day on this one.

@czarny_samael666 said:

Kratos is far to fast for that. Herc doesn't have superspeed and Sword of Olympus can shoot him from distance.

Nonsense, even with the boots of Hermes he isn't too fast for Herc.