Hercules & Ares versus Cheetah

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#1  Edited By texasdeathmatch
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#2  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

I give it to Hercules and Ares. Hercules with the golden mace potentially solos (in my opinion). But other than knowing Cheetah is a Wonder Woman level villain, my knowledge is limited. I am more than willing to be educated and proven wrong...
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#3  Edited By whacknasty
@texasdeathmatch: Lol, I hope they demolish that freakin Sears. I worked in the sporting goods dept. at one for like a year. Whack on so many levels...lol.

Has Cheetah shown herself to be able to fight/react fast enough to handle speed blitzes from WW? Or has WW ever speed blitzed her before?  Strength wise, I can see Herc matching Cheetah, but I dont know how fast she is normally in fights...
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#4  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@whacknasty: Cheetah's speedblitzed WW before:
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For Strength:
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Superman compares her punches with Captain Marvel's
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#5  Edited By karrob

Cheetah via speed blitz

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#6  Edited By D3athstroke

I Hope This is Depowered Hercules And Ripped in Half Ares if not it is stomp

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#7  Edited By Super_SoldierXII
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How fast do you think Herc is? Personally, I don't think Marvel focuses on speed blitz all that much in their story arcs. Not like DC does. But I don't take this to mean they are actually slow. Herc snagged Sentry by the cape as he was flying by without a problem, and Sentry flies to the sun and the moon (etc.) in seemingly no time at all. So these folks are obviously superfast... still, those are some impressive feats ... this may be closer than I first thought...
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#8  Edited By progenitorigin

While either combatant would probably simply get blitzed, I think the God of War and the Son of Zeus can work together to bring her down, with combined power & combat skill.  Hell, Hercules did get the Nemean Lion. ;)
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#9  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@D3athstroke: How so? I just showed scans of Cheetah being faster than WW and just as strong as her, if not stronger...

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That's the problem with combat speed in comics, I think. I'm no Herc expert, but I don't think he's ever shown impressive speed skills other than catching Sentry. PowerHerc or other Hercules fans might have more to say about this.
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#10  Edited By D3athstroke
@texasdeathmatch said:

@D3athstroke: How so? I just showed scans of Cheetah being faster than WW and just as strong as her, if not stronger...
   

Hercules is Not WW He is God And Has enchanted Speed & Reaction Time Just Like Ares 
Here Ares is Catching Hermes Who is Faster Then Light Speed
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#11  Edited By Blood1991

Cheetah is such an inconsistant villain, sometimes she is super BA and other times she is a total pushover :( In the end I guess she has grown with WW. I will go with Herc and Aries on this one. I think they are durable enough to handle a speed blitz and Sears is a bit to closed in for that to be realy effective "she would crash into everything" and Herc has a blunt object to beat her with XD
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#12  Edited By Super_SoldierXII
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Well, if it were WW I'd say Herc definitely loses due to fighting abilities being fairly even (I may even give an edge to WW despite Herc's thousands of years of combat experience - she has better feats I think) and WW has flight to compliment her speed and fighting prowess. Cheetah has neither of those advantages against Herc and Ares. Perhaps their combined fighting abilities can offset a percentage of Cheetah's obviously superior speed? Has she ever beaten WW or Superman or just contained them? If Ares connects with his axe, just how durable is she? Does she heal as fast as Ares does? Lots of questions and factors I know ... but like I said, I don't know much about her...
And I don't know powerherc yet, but judging by the name, I'd wager he would be the feller to ask indeed.
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#13  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@D3athstroke said:
@texasdeathmatch said:

@D3athstroke: How so? I just showed scans of Cheetah being faster than WW and just as strong as her, if not stronger...
   

Hercules is Not WW He is God And Has enchanted Speed & Reaction Time Just Like Ares 
Here Ares is Catching Hermes Who is Faster Then Light Speed
Where has it been stated that Hermes is faster than light speed?
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#14  Edited By progenitorigin
@texasdeathmatch said:
@D3athstroke said:
@texasdeathmatch said:

@D3athstroke: How so? I just showed scans of Cheetah being faster than WW and just as strong as her, if not stronger...
   

Hercules is Not WW He is God And Has enchanted Speed & Reaction Time Just Like Ares 
Here Ares is Catching Hermes Who is Faster Then Light Speed
Where has it been stated that Hermes is faster than light speed?

I'm pretty sure that i've seen a comic stating he was light speed, i'll try and find a scan.
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#15  Edited By OmegaDynasty

Last time I just skim scans, I didn't read it was Hermes and thought he just shot a kid in the foot with a nail gun. lol

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#16  Edited By Super_SoldierXII
@OmegaDynasty said:


                    Last time I just skim scans, I didn't read it was Hermes and thought he just shot a kid in the foot with a nail gun. lol

                   

               

Ya... LOL... I did a double take as well...
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#17  Edited By Erik
@texasdeathmatch said:
@whacknasty: Cheetah's speedblitzed WW before:
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For Strength:
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Superman compares her punches with Captain Marvel's
The strength feat is Sebastian Ballesteros. Not the same Cheetah.
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#18  Edited By spiderbuck1

Herc solos.   
 
With Ares it's a stomp.  

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#19  Edited By D3athstroke
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Thor volume 1, continued from Journey into Mystery vol. 1


And I'm Sure It Was Stated That  "people who are not capable of Light-speed travel or faster will not even be able to See him"
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#20  Edited By D3athstroke
@Super_SoldierXII said:
@OmegaDynasty said:


                    Last time I just skim scans, I didn't read it was Hermes and thought he just shot a kid in the foot with a nail gun. lol

                   

               
Ya... LOL... I did a double take as well...
This explains Why is Ares So underrated on comicvine 
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#21  Edited By HumanNumber

Why is Ares even in this fight? Last time i checked he wasn't even a 100 tonner, how is supposed to fight someone who can fight Wonder Woman? Also, those scans just show how bad Hermes' reaction time is, he couldn't dodge a nailgun? Ares didn't catch Hermes running at lightspeed, he shot him in the foot while he was standing still.
 
Does Hercules have any major reaction feats? Has he reacted to someone moving at lightspeed?

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#22  Edited By D3athstroke
@HumanNumber said:
Why is Ares even in this fight? Last time i checked he wasn't even a 100 tonner, how is supposed to fight someone who can fight Wonder Woman? Also, those scans just show how bad Hermes' reaction time is, he couldn't dodge a nailgun? Ares didn't catch Hermes running at lightspeed, he shot him in the foot while he was standing still.  Does Hercules have any major reaction feats? Has he reacted to someone moving at lightspeed?
This is "Sophism"
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Here is More from ares 
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#23  Edited By HumanNumber
@D3athstroke: Explain. 
 
I'm not sure what i'm supposed to see in that scan.
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I Hope This is Depowered Hercules And Ripped in Half Ares if not it is stomp

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The fact that there's more of them doesn't make them any faster.

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*Sees a thread with Ares vs. Wolverine*

*Looks at everyone on this thread*

Noobs. Cheetah wins.

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Catching Sentry who is FTL is good enough for me.

Herc solos.

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....Cheetah stomps. Can't see Hercs or Ares touching her, and if they could she's got the strength to go to toe to toe with Wonder Woman. So even if Hercules is on par (or slightly greater) in terms of strength, Cheetah's still going to be landing exponentially more hits.

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Cheetah.

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@agent41: Why do you constantly keep reviving WW and Cheetah threads; and keep arguing, your point as if it hasn't been heard constantly :P.

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Cheetah.

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#36  Edited By Kingant27

@agent41: They are not underatted, especially when we have users like you to make sure she doesn't get; which is not possible in the first place due to being mainstream characters and getting compared to people who are above them.

I'm sorry but revivng these threads all time will not persuade anyone, it will re start unnecessary confrontation.

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Cheetah

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I am much closer to say Cheetah.

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#41  Edited By Experio

@agent41: Wonder Woman has her respect.

Only Cheetah is underrated and that's by some small percentage of comic readers who never read a comic she's occurred in and have only witnessed her standards from the Animated Justice league TV show

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#42  Edited By Kingant27

@agent41: Blue Marvel is not overatted; it's just Dc fans can't accept he is top tier; Cheetah gets overatted more than underatted, what threads do you read?

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@agent41: Those threads may have been created years ago perhaps, but I'm sure the comments within it revealed the easy determined answer.

It would be rare to find current viners state such things.

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#46  Edited By Kingant27

@agent41: lol so a character who very few know about including you, think he is overatted; even though he is not; in fact as you think he is so overatted, show me anything implying he is not top tier; all his feats are good; can't say the same for Cheetah however they always get ignored by Cheetah fans and get regarded as PIS, I never stated street levelers can beat her; it's just street levelers have..so.

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@agent41: So I show my true colours, you just need to read on Blue Marvel a bit to know he would beat Cheetah.

You constantly continue every WW and Cheetah thread and favour them.

Thor has moved in microseconds yet people still use getting tagged by Wolverine creditable, so why not Cheetah's; I'm just saying, one rule for one yet another rule for another.

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@agent41: Yet Thor has reacted in micro-seconds, yet he gets lowballed; Cheetah also loses to street levelers; yet that gets regarded as PIS.

Convinient.

WW holds back against her, Flash never tried to speed blitz her; are you really saying that Cheetah is as fast/faster than the Flash, now that is the biggest PIS.