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#1 Posted by BigCimmerian (8575 posts) - - Show Bio

- Team is consisted of Hela, Pluto, Satanish, Blackheart and Mephisto

- Morals off, Odin has destroyer armor and belt of strength

- No prep, battle take place in neutral dimension, who wins and why?

#2 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

mephisto solos

#3 Posted by BigCimmerian (8575 posts) - - Show Bio

@KINGJAMES447 said:

mephisto solos

Ummm no.

#4 Posted by Setherial (212 posts) - - Show Bio
I'm of the opinion that Odin would wreck the team.
#5 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

@KINGJAMES447 said:

mephisto solos

Ummm no.

i know i was kidding because this is a spite thread

#6 Posted by BigCimmerian (8575 posts) - - Show Bio

@KINGJAMES447 said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@KINGJAMES447 said:

mephisto solos

Ummm no.

i know i was kidding because this is a spite thread

It's not spite, I know that Odin is more powerful than anyone on this team, but I think they could probably win if they unite against him, also I made this thread in hope that someone will inform me about Hela and Pluto power levels.

#7 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

No way. Odin was having a helluva time facing Seth inside Asgard.

And Satannish is potentially the most powerful one here considering that he can just ask his creator to hand him more power.

#8 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

@KINGJAMES447 said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@KINGJAMES447 said:

mephisto solos

Ummm no.

i know i was kidding because this is a spite thread

It's not spite, I know that Odin is more powerful than anyone on this team, but I think they could probably win if they unite against him, also I made this thread in hope that someone will inform me about Hela and Pluto power levels.

it is a spite none of those characters can beat odin outside there realm i don't even think hela can leave her realm

#9 Posted by VegetaStark (27 posts) - - Show Bio

Le sigh***

Odin takes this like a fat kid snatching free candy on halloween

#10 Posted by ImmortalT1000 (3170 posts) - - Show Bio

Hell lords easily.

#11 Posted by New_World_Order (13280 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

@KINGJAMES447 said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@KINGJAMES447 said:

mephisto solos

Ummm no.

i know i was kidding because this is a spite thread

It's not spite, I know that Odin is more powerful than anyone on this team, but I think they could probably win if they unite against him, also I made this thread in hope that someone will inform me about Hela and Pluto power levels.

Hela is quite a margain above Thor. Pluto has defeated Hela in the past, and has beaten Thor twice ( Thor later returned the favour when he beat both Ares & him at the same time ), and the Defenders. He wheres adamantium amour. So it's sorta weird, lol. As for the battle Odin will win.

@KINGJAMES447: She has, and can leave her realm.

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

No way. Odin was having a helluva time facing Seth inside Asgard.

And Satannish is potentially the most powerful one here considering that he can just ask his creator to hand him more power.

Really now? Who is Satanish's creator?

#12 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@KINGJAMES447 said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@KINGJAMES447 said:

mephisto solos

Ummm no.

i know i was kidding because this is a spite thread

It's not spite, I know that Odin is more powerful than anyone on this team, but I think they could probably win if they unite against him, also I made this thread in hope that someone will inform me about Hela and Pluto power levels.

Hela is quite a margain above Thor. Pluto has defeated Hela in the past, and has beaten Thor twice ( Thor later returned the favour when he beat both Ares & him at the same time ), and the Defenders. He wheres adamantium amour. So it's sorta weird, lol. As for the battle Odin will win.

@KINGJAMES447: She has, and can leave her realm.

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

No way. Odin was having a helluva time facing Seth inside Asgard.

And Satannish is potentially the most powerful one here considering that he can just ask his creator to hand him more power.

Really now? Who is Satanish's creator?

Dormammu

#13 Posted by New_World_Order (13280 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: Odin is just as powerful as Dormamm, if not more.

#14 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: Odin is just as powerful as Dormamm, if not more.

As powerful. Nowhere near more so.

Also together the Hell lords can win.

#15 Posted by New_World_Order (13280 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: Odin is just as powerful as Dormamm, if not more.

As powerful. Nowhere near more so.

Also together the Hell lords can win.

Channeling a multiversal attack.

#16 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath: He Channeled the Attack.

Producing the attack or out right stopping the attack > channel the attack.

I dont see where this is such a huge feat when on Regular Odin gets KO by Galactus.

Or with 3 other Skyfathers, and many Millennial of prep, and Destroyer Armor cant beat a single Celestial of the 4th Host.

So hardly a Multiversal Feat.

#17 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3786 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin wouldn't stand a chance vs Dormammu

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#18 Posted by Bo88gdan (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

Hell lords probably

#19 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath: The energy was universal, Surtur was going to channel the same energy through otherworld , so the effect was similar to dropping a matchstick in a well of gasoline. Something similar was stated in the issue as well, i can look for the panel if you are interested

@CadenceV2: I really really dont think Hell Lords together, outside their realm would stand better odds against Celestial or Galactus. More recent appearences , and a retcon of his biggest feat, sort of put Dormammu at or around skyfather level, outside Dark Dimension, or without a polar shift.

#20 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supermanwithatan01 said:

Odin wouldn't stand a chance vs Dormammu

I am curious, why not?

#21 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3260 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin...Blackheart is a non factor and Mephisto is weak outside his realm...Odin is above Hela.

#22 Posted by Kellar21 (444 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin wins especially with the destroyer armor and Seth woud be able to wreck them too.Dormammu would also be able to wreck the team.

#23 Posted by New_World_Order (13280 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@ThunderGodsWrath: The energy was universal, Surtur was going to channel the same energy through otherworld , so the effect was similar to dropping a matchstick in a well of gasoline. Something similar was stated in the issue as well, i can look for the panel if you are interested

@CadenceV2: I really really dont think Hell Lords together, outside their realm would stand better odds against Celestial or Galactus. More recent appearences , and a retcon of his biggest feat, sort of put Dormammu at or around skyfather level, outside Dark Dimension, or without a polar shift.

Oh, my bad. Thought it was multiversal, still a good feat regardless. Dormammu doesn't seem to be as powerful as his Classic self. Marvel had rectonned some characters. Like Thor, Wonder Man, & Mephisto.

#24 Posted by New_World_Order (13280 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: Dormammu hasn't done nothing good lately. How about I show him being trapped by Damian Hellstrom.

  1. Getting beat by Galactus? Who was mid fed? That's not even bad. He dropped Galactus for a little, same thing would happen to Dormammu.
  2. Odin didn't even really prep for the Celestials. All he did was make the Destroyer Amour, and gave him self the Odin Sword, and put all the Asgardian souls except Thor into it. The only thing he really did is make his Destroyer Amour, and The Odinsword. The Asgardian amp was in the same day. Regardless your trying to lowball him, evel though he took on not 1, not, 3, not even 7, but 9! So how is that bad?
#25 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3260 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@Killemall said:

@ThunderGodsWrath: The energy was universal, Surtur was going to channel the same energy through otherworld , so the effect was similar to dropping a matchstick in a well of gasoline. Something similar was stated in the issue as well, i can look for the panel if you are interested

@CadenceV2: I really really dont think Hell Lords together, outside their realm would stand better odds against Celestial or Galactus. More recent appearences , and a retcon of his biggest feat, sort of put Dormammu at or around skyfather level, outside Dark Dimension, or without a polar shift.

Oh, my bad. Thought it was multiversal, still a good feat regardless. Dormammu doesn't seem to be as powerful as his Classic self. Marvel had rectonned some characters. Like Thor, Wonder Man, & Mephisto.

When has Thor been retconned? Its been stated many times that current Thor=classic Thor. Just because some characters hasn't done the same feats in the past doesn't mean they have been retconned.

#26 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

Technically, Hela and Pluto are the weakest ones and they are not true "Hell Lords" but rather Pantheons who were employeed to be the Gate Keepers of the after life. 

 
Hela rules Hel &  Niffelheim which are both physical planes of the 9 Worlds of Asgard. I could assume the same for Pluto as it is for Olympus. 
 
Mephisto and Blackheart are in a different dimensional level. They are not physical beings like Hela and Mephisto's Hell is not in the physical plane as Hela's. 
 

Mephisto and Blackheart are intangible ethereal demons that can use their power to form a physical body for themselves to interact with the physical world.

  
Hela doesn't do this.... She already has a physical body and she can use her spells to assume an astral form. 
 
Satannish is the same thing as Mephisto but he was created by a higher power than that of Mephisto. Mephisto was spawned through evil deeds of the Elder Gods during the Elder God War Set started. Satannish was created by Dormammu to pose as a Hell Lord of a higher order to keep in check other Hell Lords from seeking the expansion of their realm while Dormammu is focusing his efforts trying to play tug of war with Eternity. 
 

If you think about it for a minute, Odin had some effort of exertion fighting against other corpeal beings such as Surtur from Muspelheim from the 9 PHYSICAL WORLDS. 

 
Satannish > Mephisto/Blackheart >>> Surtur > Hela/Pluto 
 
 You can actually kill Surtur with physical means. But you can have a Super Nova or a billion of them happening all at once explode at the face of Mephisto and it would do nothing...
#27 Edited by New_World_Order (13280 posts) - - Show Bio

@King-Stranglehold da first: He hasn't been rectonned, but Thor back in the 60's is different from Thor now. As of the other beings too. Also it's never once been stated that Current Thor=Classic Thor. It's just fans say that, because they believe there the same level. I used to believe this too. Classic Thor is like Silver Age Superman, there not competiable. Classic Thor had some insane feats, like absorbing galaxy, and 1/5 universe destroying blasts, stopping time, putting people to sleep, molecure manipulation, 1000x hotter than sun blast, soul stealing. I am not sure about this. Ask

#28 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3260 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@King-Stranglehold da first: He hasn't been rectonned, but Thor back in the 60's is different from Thor now. As of the other beings too. Also it's never once been stated that Current Thor=Classic Thor. It's just fans say that, because they believe there the same level. I used to believe this too. Classic Thor is like Silver Age Superman, there not competiable. Classic Thor had some insane feats, like absorbing galaxy, and 1/5 universe destroying blasts, stopping time, putting people to sleep, molecure manipulation, 1000x hotter than sun blast, soul stealing. I am not sure about this. Ask

Again this does not mean he was retconned and classic Thor is NO WHERE NEAR the level of silver age Superman...Show me classic Thor busting a galaxy or moving a bunch of planets. And show me Thor absorbing a galaxy...I never seen that. Its just the writers tonning him down so he wouldn't be to powerful. And also I am hearing that Thor is slowly getting back to his classic self. Writers such as Hickman are writing him like his classic days. And Thor sure looked powerful against Glory.

#29 Posted by New_World_Order (13280 posts) - - Show Bio

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@King-Stranglehold da first: He hasn't been rectonned, but Thor back in the 60's is different from Thor now. As of the other beings too. Also it's never once been stated that Current Thor=Classic Thor. It's just fans say that, because they believe there the same level. I used to believe this too. Classic Thor is like Silver Age Superman, there not competiable. Classic Thor had some insane feats, like absorbing galaxy, and 1/5 universe destroying blasts, stopping time, putting people to sleep, molecure manipulation, 1000x hotter than sun blast, soul stealing. I am not sure about this. Ask

Again this does not mean he was retconned and classic Thor is NO WHERE NEAR the level of silver age Superman...Show me classic Thor busting a galaxy or moving a bunch of planets. And show me Thor absorbing a galaxy...I never seen that. Its just the writers tonning him down so he wouldn't be to powerful. And also I am hearing that Thor is slowly getting back to his classic self. Writers such as Hickman are writing him like his classic days. And Thor sure looked powerful against Glory.

I never said he was as powerful as SA Superman. Okay, but I agree with you. Hickerman does seem to want to return Thor.

Here is the galaxy destroying bomb feat.

Thor created a vortex which completely contained the explosion ( 1/5 universe destroying exsplosion )

#30 Posted by NeonGameWave (7950 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin crushes them.

#31 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3260 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@King-Stranglehold da first: He hasn't been rectonned, but Thor back in the 60's is different from Thor now. As of the other beings too. Also it's never once been stated that Current Thor=Classic Thor. It's just fans say that, because they believe there the same level. I used to believe this too. Classic Thor is like Silver Age Superman, there not competiable. Classic Thor had some insane feats, like absorbing galaxy, and 1/5 universe destroying blasts, stopping time, putting people to sleep, molecure manipulation, 1000x hotter than sun blast, soul stealing. I am not sure about this. Ask

Again this does not mean he was retconned and classic Thor is NO WHERE NEAR the level of silver age Superman...Show me classic Thor busting a galaxy or moving a bunch of planets. And show me Thor absorbing a galaxy...I never seen that. Its just the writers tonning him down so he wouldn't be to powerful. And also I am hearing that Thor is slowly getting back to his classic self. Writers such as Hickman are writing him like his classic days. And Thor sure looked powerful against Glory.

I never said he was as powerful as SA Superman. Okay, but I agree with you. Hickerman does seem to want to return Thor.

Here is the galaxy destroying bomb feat.

Thor created a vortex which completely contained the explosion ( 1/5 universe destroying exsplosion )

Thanks for posting those scans! But I was just trying to state that just because a character hasn't looked powerful for years doesn't mean they have been retconned. I know this may not be a good example, but Terrax was looking like a jobber for years and then in Annihilation he sliced a planet in two I believe. Gladiator is a big jobber and he hasn't been doing anything great, yet it has not been stated that he has been retconned...

#32 Posted by BigCimmerian (8575 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning:

Surtur > Mephisto, Satanish, Blackheart, Pluto, Hela combined. He is considered to be universal level and above Odin in power.

#33 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning:

Surtur > Mephisto, Satanish, Blackheart, Pluto, Hela combined. He is considered to be universal level and above Odin in power.

Surtur is stronger than Pluto and Hela.

He is weaker than the Incorpeals.

Mephisto can easily wipe out galaxies but it is AGAINST HIS PURPOSE. He doesn't care about physical reality... All he cares about is the planes above.. The plane were souls dwell.

#34 Posted by BigCimmerian (8575 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning:

Surtur > Mephisto, Satanish, Blackheart, Pluto, Hela combined. He is considered to be universal level and above Odin in power.

Surtur is stronger than Pluto and Hela.

He is weaker than the Incorpeals.

Mephisto can easily wipe out galaxies but it is AGAINST HIS PURPOSE. He doesn't care about physical reality... All he cares about is the planes above.. The plane were souls dwell.

Ok, I'll make a thread Mephisto vs Surtur.

#35 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@CadenceV2: I really really dont think Hell Lords together, outside their realm would stand better odds against Celestial or Galactus. More recent appearences , and a retcon of his biggest feat, sort of put Dormammu at or around skyfather level, outside Dark Dimension, or without a polar shift.

My point exactly. Odin is not Galactus or Celestials Level. Hes a Sky Father and I truly believe this many Hell Lords at once will best him ;)

#36 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@CadenceV2: Dormammu hasn't done nothing good lately. How about I show him being trapped by Damian Hellstrom.

Whoa Whoa Whoa!

Daimon Hellstorm is the best Exorcist in all of Marvel. Dormammu possessed Hoods body and was easy pickings as a result ;).

Hellstorm is all a Hell Lord himself.

#37 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3786 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall said:

@Supermanwithatan01 said:

Odin wouldn't stand a chance vs Dormammu

I am curious, why not?

Odin's greatest enemy is Surtur. Look at it this way. Odin's power is extreme and of a magical nature. He is at most a galaxy buster. The Classic Doctor Strange who was "the most powerful man in the multiverse" according to the Beyonder was horrified of Dormammu. Dormammu's feats obviously outweigh Odin but I try to look at it like this. Marvel for the most part has weigh classes, like in boxing. Every now and then, you can go up a weighclass or 2 and be a baller. Do well. Roy Jones or Pacman or Duran-esque fighters. However for the most part you should be the king of your weight class. Which is why Marvel has a p4p class too (imo there are a few contesting). Dormammu is like middleweight, sometimes light heavy weight, Odin is more of a jr lightweigh or maybe all out a light weight. 2 different weightclasses based on opponents and feats. 
 
There's very few all star P4Ps but there are a few
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#38 Edited by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supermanwithatan01 said:

Odin's greatest enemy is Surtur. Look at it this way. Odin's power is extreme and of a magical nature. He is at most a galaxy buster. The Classic Doctor Strange who was "the most powerful man in the multiverse" according to the Beyonder was horrified of Dormammu. Dormammu's feats obviously outweigh Odin but I try to look at it like this. Marvel for the most part has weigh classes, like in boxing. Every now and then, you can go up a weighclass or 2 and be a baller. Do well. Roy Jones or Pacman or Duran-esque fighters. However for the most part you should be the king of your weight class. Which is why Marvel has a p4p class too (imo there are a few contesting). Dormammu is like middleweight, sometimes light heavy weight, Odin is more of a jr lightweigh or maybe all out a light weight. 2 different weightclasses based on opponents and feats. There's very few all star P4Ps but there are a few

1. Classic Doctor Strange being the most powreful man in the multiverse is a hyperbole much like Hulk having limitless strength said by the same person, Beyonder. Not to mention Beyonder was drunk.

2. Which particular feat from Dormammu puts him above Odin, since you are convinced his feats outweigh Odin, specially one done outside his realm and without a polar shift.

3. The rest of Dormammu being a middleweight and Odin being a lightweight, seems like your interpretation and your interpretation only, is there anything to substantiate that.

4.For the record, Surtur > Classic Strange, as far as random encounter is concerned. I have been reading up on classic strange and its funny how most of his feat on comicvine are taken totally out of context.

#39 Edited by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

My point exactly. Odin is not Galactus or Celestials Level. Hes a Sky Father and I truly believe this many Hell Lords at once will best him ;)

That sounds like a very weak argument, sorry. You are saying Odin would lose to Hell Lords because he is not Celestial or Galactus level, what i am asking is based on what are Hell Lords, outside their realm on the same level as the two.

I personally dont see the point, but meh.

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

And Thor sure looked powerful against Glory.

He had an amped from God during that fight, something stated on panel and backed by the bio.

Gladiator is a big jobber and he hasn't been doing anything great, yet it has not been stated that he has been retconned...

Could you quote me an instance where a fed Galactus has jobbed? I am curious.

As per not having done anything great:

1. Annihilation, a hungry weak Galactus with one blast destroyed 3 star systems and destroyed most of annihilation wave with it.

2. In Thanos Imperative Galactus stood up to the Galactus engine , the same engine against whom Celestials were like ants and the entire group of Celestial fled.

3. Fantastic Four: War of 4 Cities, Galactus having consumed 4 planets killed 3 Mad Celestials from Earth 4280, same mad celestials who tanked a blast from alternate IG, a blast from alternate UN, and killed an alternate Reed with Starbrand (so that last part makes them more powerful than Living Tribunal really, so yeah, f&*k you Hickman).

4. Thor Annual 01 , under Fraction, Galactus nearly destroyed the multiverse as a side effect of his fight against The Other and Scarier.

All of these feat done with the span of last 4 years, not sure where you are getting he hasnt being doing anything great from.

#40 Edited by King-Stranglehold da first (3260 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall:

You need to work on your reading comprehension because I clearly said Gladiator, I did not even mention Galactus. -__-

#41 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

@Killemall:

You need to work on your reading comprehension because I clearly said Gladiator, I did not even mention Galactus. -__-

Oops my bad, apologies

The point however still stands, what has Gladiator done in classic days that puts him completely different from his current days. Because he destroyed a un-named planet with few blows, is that what you are getting at?

Gladiator has never been more powerful than Thor from his first appearence. So how does Gladiator never having done anything change the fact that Thor in is Classic Days was using abilites never seen for more than 40 years now?

Gladiator hasnt been retconed, he was never as powerful as people would have liked. He is pretty much a Thor, BRB class hero with the only difference being speed. Thats about it.

#42 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3260 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall:

In his classic days he was busting planets and taking on people like Tyrant, now he gets beat by people like Black Bolt...And also I never said Gladiator was retconned I was making a point with him.

#43 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

@Killemall:

In his classic days he was busting planets

Busitng Planets? He has done that once, to an un-named planet or as referred to a scan "rock" with 3 blows.

taking on people like Tyrant

Not sure why taking on people like Tyrant is consequential, when he did so with 4 other herald level beings and most importantly got stomped.

now he gets beat by people like Black Bolt.

While i have not seen him being beaten by Black Blot, even in classic days Reed Richard made a mockery out of him.

And also I never said Gladiator was retconned I was making a point with him.

I never accused of you saying Gladiator was retconned, i am trying to understand what point you are making. Gladiator clearly wasnt "that" powerful in his classic days, was extremely fast and has been extremely fast, but thats about it. He isnt any better than Thor level and has lost to Thor before. Not really sure what point you are trying to make.

#44 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3260 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall:

What I'm trying to say he has jobbed a lot...

#45 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

@Killemall:

What I'm trying to say he has jobbed a lot...

Given his abilities are as a result of his confidence, a weakness easily exploitable his jobbing makes sense.

That being said Thor has jobbed a lot, but that wasnt the point. Point was classic days Thor did have access to a lot more powerful than he has today, powers that have not been used for a long time, and likely powers that are long forgotten. Thats why people are of the opinion that Thor got a rolling retcon, as in not official taken away, just that writers have decided to write Thor as a lot less powerful beast.

#46 Posted by BigCimmerian (8575 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

@Killemall:

What I'm trying to say he has jobbed a lot...

Given his abilities are as a result of his confidence, a weakness easily exploitable his jobbing makes sense.

That being said Thor has jobbed a lot, but that wasnt the point. Point was classic days Thor did have access to a lot more powerful than he has today, powers that have not been used for a long time, and likely powers that are long forgotten. Thats why people are of the opinion that Thor got a rolling retcon, as in not official taken away, just that writers have decided to write Thor as a lot less powerful beast.

So you think Odin wins? :D

#47 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3260 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@King-Stranglehold da first said:

@Killemall:

What I'm trying to say he has jobbed a lot...

Given his abilities are as a result of his confidence, a weakness easily exploitable his jobbing makes sense.

That being said Thor has jobbed a lot, but that wasnt the point. Point was classic days Thor did have access to a lot more powerful than he has today, powers that have not been used for a long time, and likely powers that are long forgotten. Thats why people are of the opinion that Thor got a rolling retcon, as in not official taken away, just that writers have decided to write Thor as a lot less powerful beast.

Still doesn't confirm that he has been retconned..

#48 Posted by Epicbeast3000 (956 posts) - - Show Bio
@ImmortalT1000: Odin stalemated Dormammu, he could beat Mephisto and the rest.
#49 Posted by New_World_Order (13280 posts) - - Show Bio

@King-Stranglehold da first: Gotcha !

#50 Edited by New_World_Order (13280 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Actually Thor was only amped in the second time he fought Glory. Redirecting Glory's attack was his doing. When Mikaboshi revived Glory the second time, he made him more powerful. That's when Thor needed, and recieved power from TOAA.

@CadenceV2: Dormammu hasn't done nothing good lately. How about I show him being trapped by Damian Hellstrom.

Whoa Whoa Whoa!

Daimon Hellstorm is the best Exorcist in all of Marvel. Dormammu possessed Hoods body and was easy pickings as a result ;).

Hellstorm is all a Hell Lord himself.

LOL I was joking, just tring to lowball him :P. Damian is a Badass!