who wins
H'el Vs. Gorr
Can't really tell which gorr your talking about. But from the ones I just read up on H'el would stomp them pretty badly.
Powers and Abilities
H'EL claims that he is a Kryptonian, so as a Kryptonian under a yellow sun, H'EL has all the typical Kryptonian powers typical of being a "Solar Battery".
Super Strength - Is able to take on the entire Super-Family with (appears to be) zero effort
Flight
Invulnerability - Has shown little to no damage after attacks from super-powered beings.
Super-Hearing - Is able to hear from great distances
Super Stamina
Super Speed - Has displayed speeds faster then Superman, Supergirl & Superboy combined.
Longevity - has claimed to be mentored by Jor-El, yet appears to be merely a few years older than Kal-El.
Total Recall - able to recall memories in almost perfect detail as well as a vast intellect.
Super Healing - In the New 52, Kryptonians have been shown to get hurt and have battle scars (both Kal-El and Kal-L have been seen with visible scars) H'EL in his first appearance and in promo art has many scars including a reverse "S" symbol on his bare chest, after his first appearance it seems to have healed, and in each issue following he has fewer and fewer scars, this could be his healing factor...or the artist simply forgetting too include them, that however does not explain the lack of the reversed "S" symbol.
Alternate Abilities
H'EL has displayed abilities not seen with any Kryptonian thus far such as....
Teleportation - has shown the ability to appear and disappear at will, originally thought to be just super-speed, H'EL has teleported others great distances in the blink of an eye.
Telekinesis - has shown the ability to move objects with his mind, also able to take things apart at a molecular level [things like Kon-El for example].
Super......Mental....Teaching?? - H'EL was able to teach Kara Zor-El how to speak English in a matter of seconds, how he did this is still unknown.
Shape Shifting - It is un-clear if H'EL can actually shape shift, or if he was using some kind of mental ability to make himself appear in another form.
Astral Projection - H'EL has the ability to project himself on a spiritual plain.
Matter Altering - H'EL has the ability to alter the size of objects [but not himself]
Gorr hasn't really done a lot besides beat a young Thor without mjolnir, and kill a hundreds of gods....still H'el takes it in a blink of an eye.
Anything new from Gorr that I don't know about? Because if a beating a young Mjolnirless Thor in a semi competitive fight is all he has, he gets raped by H'el.
@fernando072295reborn: Gorr beaten A Odin Force Thor,Current Thor,and Young Thor at the same time.
@fernando072295reborn: Gorr beaten A Odin Force Thor,Current Thor,and Young Thor at the same time.
Gorr stomps.
Gor defeated three Thors eforcerless, one of the Skyfather that can stalesmate Galactus
Another one strong enough to brake planets and moons with indirect hits (Gorr tanking those attacks directly)
So way more powerful and durable than H'el.
BTW anyone can tell me if H'el's name is pronunced Hel or el.
@deathstrokesrevenge: LMAO. Gorr was killing thousands of gods (including Elder Gods who are multi-galaxy level.)
There were different versions of Gorr during the God of Thunder and Godbomb storylines but looking back it now....Yeah H`el gets butchered.
Powers and Abilities
H'EL claims that he is a Kryptonian, so as a Kryptonian under a yellow sun, H'EL has all the typical Kryptonian powers typical of being a "Solar Battery".
Super Strength - Is able to take on the entire Super-Family with (appears to be) zero effort
Flight
Invulnerability - Has shown little to no damage after attacks from super-powered beings.
Super-Hearing - Is able to hear from great distances
Super Stamina
Super Speed - Has displayed speeds faster then Superman, Supergirl & Superboy combined.
Longevity - has claimed to be mentored by Jor-El, yet appears to be merely a few years older than Kal-El.
Total Recall - able to recall memories in almost perfect detail as well as a vast intellect.
Super Healing - In the New 52, Kryptonians have been shown to get hurt and have battle scars (both Kal-El and Kal-L have been seen with visible scars) H'EL in his first appearance and in promo art has many scars including a reverse "S" symbol on his bare chest, after his first appearance it seems to have healed, and in each issue following he has fewer and fewer scars, this could be his healing factor...or the artist simply forgetting too include them, that however does not explain the lack of the reversed "S" symbol.
Alternate Abilities
H'EL has displayed abilities not seen with any Kryptonian thus far such as....
Teleportation - has shown the ability to appear and disappear at will, originally thought to be just super-speed, H'EL has teleported others great distances in the blink of an eye.
Telekinesis - has shown the ability to move objects with his mind, also able to take things apart at a molecular level [things like Kon-El for example].
Super......Mental....Teaching?? - H'EL was able to teach Kara Zor-El how to speak English in a matter of seconds, how he did this is still unknown.
Shape Shifting - It is un-clear if H'EL can actually shape shift, or if he was using some kind of mental ability to make himself appear in another form.
Astral Projection - H'EL has the ability to project himself on a spiritual plain.
Matter Altering - H'EL has the ability to alter the size of objects [but not himself]
Gorr hasn't really done a lot besides beat a young Thor without mjolnir, and kill a hundreds of gods....still H'el takes it in a blink of an eye.
I know this is 3 years back but H'El is not Kryptonian.
@biggest_d: what do you mean he is not Kryptonian.
On topic- H'el probably loses. The necro sword was shown to be extremely power so I don't see how gets put down.
@biggest_d: what do you mean he is not Kryptonian.
On topic- H'el probably loses. The necro sword was shown to be extremely power so I don't see how gets put down.
In Superman 23 or 24, is stablished H'El was a alien fallen in Krypton and adopted by Jor-El. Kinda poetic when you think about it.
@ecstaticgrace: Well he had Thor force which was the same thing if not more powerful
@biggest_d:scans?
@ecstaticgrace: Well he had Thor force which was the same thing if not more powerful
@biggest_d:scans?
gotta work now, but when i come back gonna post them.
@biggest_d: what do you mean he is not Kryptonian.
On topic- H'el probably loses. The necro sword was shown to be extremely power so I don't see how gets put down.
In Superman 23 or 24, is stablished H'El was a alien fallen in Krypton and adopted by Jor-El. Kinda poetic when you think about it.
No, he got sent back in time and ended up on Krypton to repeat the cycle. Superman, Superboy, and Supergirl went back to stop him from changing the time line. Superboy gets tasked with making sure Kara gets on the rocket to get away. He stays and suffers from the explosion. Superman fights H'el in the planet's core or something. Supergirl defeated the clone army. H'el is a clone and is Kryptonian. He was created by Supes' dad. You'll notice that shortly after he finds He'l he also finds a space ship that he made himself.
@emperorthanos: He didn't seem to impressive to me, all 3 Thor's were fighting pretty to the same amount of power.
Avengers Thor doing the most.
then read it again. It was specifically stated that Old Thor Now had Odin Force. Even in a later Storyline Old Thor was able to match a hungry Galactus for a little bit.
@emperorthanos: He didn't seem to impressive to me, all 3 Thor's were fighting pretty to the same amount of power.
Avengers Thor doing the most.
then read it again. It was specifically stated that Old Thor Now had Odin Force. Even in a later Storyline Old Thor was able to match a hungry Galactus for a little bit.
Hungry Galactus tends to job but regardless I thought you said he had the "Thor-Force"
Which he said was the odin force renamed. I will find the scan in a moment.
@ecstaticgrace: here it is.
@ecstaticgrace: I don't know but once he began fighting Gorr it said that he used all the might of the thor force.
@emperorthanos: So Gorr > Hungry Galactus?
No Odin only managed to beat Glalactus using Gorr's weapon.
But initially we was able to match Galactus for a bit. But to deafeat him he needed the necro sword.
@emperorthanos: I thought it was Old King Thor that stalemated Galactus?
Sorry I meant Old Thor not Odin. They look exactly the same so I got confused.
@ecstaticgrace: Well he had Thor force which was the same thing if not more powerful
@biggest_d:scans?
@biggest_d: what do you mean he is not Kryptonian.
On topic- H'el probably loses. The necro sword was shown to be extremely power so I don't see how gets put down.
In Superman 23 or 24, is stablished H'El was a alien fallen in Krypton and adopted by Jor-El. Kinda poetic when you think about it.
No, he got sent back in time and ended up on Krypton to repeat the cycle. Superman, Superboy, and Supergirl went back to stop him from changing the time line. Superboy gets tasked with making sure Kara gets on the rocket to get away. He stays and suffers from the explosion. Superman fights H'el in the planet's core or something. Supergirl defeated the clone army. H'el is a clone and is Kryptonian. He was created by Supes' dad. You'll notice that shortly after he finds He'l he also finds a space ship that he made himself.
scan is right in there, he was made out of cells from a chip that had crashed in the planet.
@biggest_d: thanks
There were different versions of Gorr during the God of Thunder and Godbomb storylines but looking back it now....Yeah H`el gets butchered.
@biggest_d: thanks
np
Kind of indifferent on this. I really want to say H'el, but I don't remember much from the Thor story arc.
@biggest_d: He is Kryptonian. That scan is meaning to sound insulting towards He'l and just means to say he's nothing special. He's not a natural Kryptonian because he was formed from the cells of many. I'm far too lazy to go get the scans. He's just mutated sorta like Doomsday is, but nowhere near that extreme. He thought he was a native Kryptonian because he had memories (which weren't his) and he claimed to have been sent out to scout other planets from Krypton prior to it's destruction because it's what he believed. He was a clone though and just a little more than a science project. hence why he went crazy towards the end and Superman/Jor-El had to get him stuck in that time loop.
HEl got this .
A guy who destroys time lines and realities
All this talk about Thor battling a starving galactus .
I dont see Gor defeating him
@biggest_d: He is Kryptonian. That scan is meaning to sound insulting towards He'l and just means to say he's nothing special. He's not a natural Kryptonian because he was formed from the cells of many. I'm far too lazy to go get the scans. He's just mutated sorta like Doomsday is, but nowhere near that extreme. He thought he was a native Kryptonian because he had memories (which weren't his) and he claimed to have been sent out to scout other planets from Krypton prior to it's destruction because it's what he believed. He was a clone though and just a little more than a science project. hence why he went crazy towards the end and Superman/Jor-El had to get him stuck in that time loop.
he was made as a error in a lab, but his cells were found in another chip.
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