Hel & Sinestro vs Mutants

Hel and Standard Yellow Lantern Sinestro

vs

Apocalypse

Professor X

Magneto

Iceman

Morals off

No BFR or Destroying The Planet

Battle is in Abandon City full of Metal

The Mutants are willing to wok together to Achieve the Victory.

Mutants get 2 days prep

Who Wins Kryptonian and Lantern or Mutants

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Sinestro isn't gonna do well against Magneto I don't think, and for sure not doing well against Professor X or Apocalypse's telepathy.

He'l I know next to nothing about. What's his TP resistance like?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

i want to say mutants but i cant be sure. How resistance to mind bombs and below zero are they i dont think ive seen them pushed to their limit in this aspect

Professor X telepathy might be cancelled by the resistance of team 1. But anyway, Magneto, Apocalypse and Iceman are enough to take them down.

Add the 2 days of prep and Magneto is nearly invincible. He could kill them in less than 5 seconds if he take the drugs kick to boost his own power. He's also a very good strategist with Apocalypse.

How is this fair? Iceman and apoc have good chance for either to solo, and magneto in a city full of metal is no joke and i doubt they can break his shields quickly

Prep gives them a chance

H'el could've soloed without prep

Mutants FTW

Apocalypse has the best battle chance with physical effects of his powers

Prof telepathy is a problem but as said resistance could be possible for H'El and Sinestro

I go with the duo. H'el has enough to take on Apocalypse and Bobby. Sinestro can take on Magnus

Bump... Can they stop IceMan?

@uugieboogie: Can't he just flash freeze them since morals are off?

I've been hearing a lot of crazy things about Flash. Apparently he can live in the liquid inside someones body & kill them from the inside out & doesn't need a body to live anymore

Recent "Fanboy got into the bullpen and started writing X-Men comics" version of Iceman solos.

lol I need to know who that writer is

Iceman solos with ease.

Apoc with prep solos.

Magneto and pro x would still be a match against them. Seriously?! Come on. This is spite.

What if H'el teleported Iceman into the sun?

I want to get into the Marvel Bullpen and reinvent Kang as a legitimate Team buster who one-shots heralds.

Nah, I want to get in marvel & write Old Man Steve punching Galactus in the face & picking up Mjolnir

I just want to become a Marvel writer so Thor can stop jobbing in everyone else's comics.

I swear I thought I was the only one who noticed that, lol. Idk why they hate him lol

Maybe one of the DC fans who says he's too slow to tag anyone now works at Marvel.

He definitely gave Marvel the idea for the Angela fight! lol

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@uugieboogie: yeah by giving him *puts on glasses* hel XD

I'm confused lol

@uugieboogie: hel = hell = hot/heat XD

Mutants. If they prolong the fight long enough, and keep Sinestro's Lantern out of reach; the battle becomes even more handicapped

ohhhhhhhhhhh lmao XD

He'l and Sinestro.

@uugieboogie: yeeaaaahhh XD

What Bobby can do now has been hinted at for years before any recent version. He is an omega that was always jobbing, until now.

Hinted since 1998 apparently. Which is still only 16 years of a 51 year existence.

Mutants can win here.

Both Apocalypse and Iceman have there molecule control etc; so it will defend them from H'el's most threatening IMO attack.

TP from Xavier and Apocalypse may allow them to overwhelm H'el's TP.

Magneto is going to give Sinestro a problem as well.

Mutants win here, 2 days prep, with genius's on there team; and double the man power.

what's recent about 1998? And try 1992 when the eldest Rasputin showed him that he could be tuned into water dispersed and still live, and then 1994 when Emma took over his body and used his powers to in ways he never thought they could be used, then we get a AOA Bobby in 1995. Like I said it has been hinted for years (at least 22 of them) that Bobby was way more powerful than he showed us.

Mutants.

Apocalypse could survive the initial blitz and try to TP these guys.

Bigger problem for Apocalypse would be their speed rather than TP defense.

What TP does Apocalypse have? He can't even astral project according to the Onslaught saga, and astral projection is a basic telepathic move.

@lordofallhumans: he has got plenty of telepathic feats I can post once I get back home. He has able to telepathic attack Jean back to back in 2 story arc Adventures of Phoenix and Cyclops as well as Future Adventures of Phoenix and Cyclops. He had been able to telepathically fight Prof X and Jean on physical plane and baby Cable on Astral plane.

Then there is a one shot story against Exodus where he manipulates his psi energies to tap him.

In the origin story for Nate we are told his psionic powers rivals that of Apocalypse though it could be only limited to the Akan version.

X force we had Stryfe unable to TP apocalypse though that probably can be because of his telepathic defense.

@lordofallhumans: sorry replying from phone so the language is all messed up.

That is not a canon Apocalypse and as a matter a fact because of Jean and Cable he no longer exists as that timeline was wiped out. Please get those scans I don't remember it that way, I was under the impression it was baby Nate that pulled everybody into the astral plane, Jean did not have telepathy at the time.

That is energy manipulation.

@lordofallhumans: apart from AoA everything is canon Apocalypse. Sure I can get you the scans once I get home but with 2 story arc listed each with 4 odd issues each it shouldn't be hard to find.

Cable only dragged Cyclops to astral plane to give him his power and Cyclops was able to destroy Apocalypse body which was merged to a machine trying to purge Cable of his powers.

It's energy manipulation against Exodus but it's psi energy from a pretty powerful alpha class telepathy whose beaten the likes of Sersi on telepathic abilities. The nature of the energy being manipulated is why I brought that up.

Iceman exists in any moisture, including moisture within bodies. He isn't tied to his Ice Form, so even if Iceman's physical form was teleported to the Sun his consciousness shouldn't be.

What can H'el actually do to Iceman?

As far as I can tell, Sinestro can't really put him down for good so has H'el got some insane ability?

@lordofallhumans: I just saw you recommend Adventures of Phoenix and Cyclops to someone on the other thread . Did you still want me to post the scans for you ?

H'El blitzes and deconstructs their DNA, leaving them helpless normal humans...

The fight isn't to the death, so incapacitating Ice Man for a ten count is all that's needed to win. Either of them could incapacitate Ice Man for 10 seconds.

Apocalypse from an alternate timeline that was wiped out is not canon for 616 Apocalyspe.

The nature of the energy does not make him telepathic. Vulcan can manipulate psionic energy and magic, but it doesn't mean he is a telepath or a magician, and Exodus and Sersis battle was not purely telepathic the way I remember it. The fact that he needed Cable to go to the astral plane, brings claims of him being a telepath into question.

I really don't see how any of them can hold a candle to H'el. He should completely annihilate them, the only way he could be stopped is if someone on the team had immense super speed (fast enough to tag him) and had kryptonite. Their only chance is maybe with a telepathic assault but even that should fail given his stats. It would be nice to see more TP feats from H'el though.

Its still listed as one of Apocalypse 616 appearance as far as marvel wiki goes.

Fair enough.

Exodus and Sersi did have telepathic battle for a reasonable time period as well.

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He didnt need Cable for anything really. He just had Cable because he wanted to purge the virus from Cable, which was meant to be a threat to him.

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