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#1 Edited by Kingant27 (5145 posts) - - Show Bio

All Blood-Lusted

No-Prep

Fight takes place on an indestructible planet where they can go all out

They start 2 miles apart

Fight to the death

H'el

Death Seed Sentry

Vs

(Pre-52/Wildstorm/New-52)Mr Majestic(No Creation blades)

Superboy Prime(suit)

#2 Posted by highaccuser (6846 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

#3 Posted by sophia89 (3866 posts) - - Show Bio

All Blood-Lusted

No-Prep

Fight takes place on an indestructible planet where they can go all out

They start 2 miles apart

Fight to the death

H'el

Death Seed Sentry

Vs

(Pre-52/Wildstorm/New-52)Mr Majestic(No Creation blades)

Superboy Prime(suit)

DSS can't die,and you put him in a match to the death,hmmm i wonder who will win!

#4 Edited by sophia89 (3866 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

team 1 has 2 tp in there so prime will be taken out.

majestic doesn't have the creation blades,and the match is to the death.Majestic has to somehow kill an immortal,while a guy that humiliated superman is backing him up.

not sure how team 2 take 1/10.

#5 Posted by GhostRider2 (3308 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

#6 Edited by unBREAKable_Fs4 (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

Huge versatility advantage

#7 Posted by Primebonnick (2234 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 so damn versatile though, then again they are up against a blood lusted prime and we all know what he is like. I go for team 2 with extreme difficulty.

#8 Edited by skyroid (336 posts) - - Show Bio

@primebonnick said:

Team 1 so damn versatile though, then again they are up against a blood lusted prime and we all know what he is like. I go for team 2 with extreme difficulty.

ye siding with superboy prime.

#9 Posted by TheKing47 (961 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

#10 Posted by Juiceboks (9094 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry can't die..you might as well add Juggernaut while you're at it.

#11 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5438 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

#12 Posted by eternityx (2778 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

Way too much versatility on team 1 here. Sentry has similar physical stats to the members of team 2, but he also possesses a ****load of other powers. H'El, whilst not being as physically strong, also possesses many useful powers that will no doubt trouble team 2.

#13 Posted by Hulkman123 (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 get the autowin since Sentry can't die and the fight is till death.

Even if the fight wasn't till death, team 1 would still win, because of TP and Matter Manipulation.

#14 Edited by highaccuser (6846 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89 said:

@highaccuser said:

Team 2.

team 1 has 2 tp in there so prime will be taken out.

majestic doesn't have the creation blades,and the match is to the death.Majestic has to somehow kill an immortal,while a guy that humiliated superman is backing him up.

not sure how team 2 take 1/10.

H'el doesn't have any good TP feats and all DSS did was mentally communicate with Thor and we don't know he has offensive TP.

I didn't see to the death. It likely ends in a stalemate with them KOing the team but not technically winning.

#15 Posted by dondave (37612 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

#16 Posted by Kingant27 (5145 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: How does he win, you got a reason?

Anyone else

#17 Posted by Hulkman123 (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89 said:

@highaccuser said:

Team 2.

team 1 has 2 tp in there so prime will be taken out.

majestic doesn't have the creation blades,and the match is to the death.Majestic has to somehow kill an immortal,while a guy that humiliated superman is backing him up.

not sure how team 2 take 1/10.

H'el doesn't have any good TP feats and all DSS did was mentally communicate with Thor and we don't know he has offensive TP.

I didn't see to the death. It likely ends in a stalemate with them KOing the team but not technically winning.

Normal Sentry TP feats count for DS Sentry, plus H'El's TP feats are more than good enough to cause trouble for team 2.

#18 Posted by green_skaar (4415 posts) - - Show Bio

Fight to death...includes guy who can't die...hmm...team 1

#19 Posted by highaccuser (6846 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

@sophia89 said:

@highaccuser said:

Team 2.

team 1 has 2 tp in there so prime will be taken out.

majestic doesn't have the creation blades,and the match is to the death.Majestic has to somehow kill an immortal,while a guy that humiliated superman is backing him up.

not sure how team 2 take 1/10.

H'el doesn't have any good TP feats and all DSS did was mentally communicate with Thor and we don't know he has offensive TP.

I didn't see to the death. It likely ends in a stalemate with them KOing the team but not technically winning.

Normal Sentry TP feats count for DS Sentry, plus H'El's TP feats are more than good enough to cause trouble for team 2.

No they don't. Also he has no offensive telepath feats so it's a moot point. H'el isn't confirmed as having telepathy, certainly not enough to really harm someone..

Fight to death...includes guy who can't die...hmm...team 1

They just knock him out and it becomes a stalemate.

#20 Posted by Hulkman123 (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulkman123 said:

@highaccuser said:

@sophia89 said:

@highaccuser said:

Team 2.

team 1 has 2 tp in there so prime will be taken out.

majestic doesn't have the creation blades,and the match is to the death.Majestic has to somehow kill an immortal,while a guy that humiliated superman is backing him up.

not sure how team 2 take 1/10.

H'el doesn't have any good TP feats and all DSS did was mentally communicate with Thor and we don't know he has offensive TP.

I didn't see to the death. It likely ends in a stalemate with them KOing the team but not technically winning.

Normal Sentry TP feats count for DS Sentry, plus H'El's TP feats are more than good enough to cause trouble for team 2.

No they don't. Also he has no offensive telepath feats so it's a moot point. H'el isn't confirmed as having telepathy, certainly not enough to really harm someone..

@green_skaar said:

Fight to death...includes guy who can't die...hmm...team 1

They just knock him out and it becomes a stalemate.

Sentry does have offensive telepathy.

Also, IIRC H'El was shown to be able to create illusions, he could easily create illusions to make members of team 2 look like the enemy and make them fight amongst themselves.

Not that any of this really matters though, since Sentry can't die and this is a fight to the death.

#21 Edited by Iragexcudder (4912 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 should rip em apart

#22 Posted by highaccuser (6846 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

@hulkman123 said:

@highaccuser said:

@sophia89 said:

@highaccuser said:

Team 2.

team 1 has 2 tp in there so prime will be taken out.

majestic doesn't have the creation blades,and the match is to the death.Majestic has to somehow kill an immortal,while a guy that humiliated superman is backing him up.

not sure how team 2 take 1/10.

H'el doesn't have any good TP feats and all DSS did was mentally communicate with Thor and we don't know he has offensive TP.

I didn't see to the death. It likely ends in a stalemate with them KOing the team but not technically winning.

Normal Sentry TP feats count for DS Sentry, plus H'El's TP feats are more than good enough to cause trouble for team 2.

No they don't. Also he has no offensive telepath feats so it's a moot point. H'el isn't confirmed as having telepathy, certainly not enough to really harm someone..

@green_skaar said:

Fight to death...includes guy who can't die...hmm...team 1

They just knock him out and it becomes a stalemate.

Sentry does have offensive telepathy.

Also, IIRC H'El was shown to be able to create illusions, he could easily create illusions to make members of team 2 look like the enemy and make them fight amongst themselves.

Not that any of this really matters though, since Sentry can't die and this is a fight to the death.

None of that is offensive TP. Super adaptoid just couldn't handle sentrys powers and the other scans don't show anything of the sort.

H'el's illusions could just as easily be shapeshifting, which wouldn't work here given Prime's senses.

Yeah, so this is a stalemate after they KO them.

#23 Posted by TheKing47 (961 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulkman123 said:

@highaccuser said:

@hulkman123 said:

@highaccuser said:

@sophia89 said:

@highaccuser said:

Team 2.

team 1 has 2 tp in there so prime will be taken out.

majestic doesn't have the creation blades,and the match is to the death.Majestic has to somehow kill an immortal,while a guy that humiliated superman is backing him up.

not sure how team 2 take 1/10.

H'el doesn't have any good TP feats and all DSS did was mentally communicate with Thor and we don't know he has offensive TP.

I didn't see to the death. It likely ends in a stalemate with them KOing the team but not technically winning.

Normal Sentry TP feats count for DS Sentry, plus H'El's TP feats are more than good enough to cause trouble for team 2.

No they don't. Also he has no offensive telepath feats so it's a moot point. H'el isn't confirmed as having telepathy, certainly not enough to really harm someone..

@green_skaar said:

Fight to death...includes guy who can't die...hmm...team 1

They just knock him out and it becomes a stalemate.

Sentry does have offensive telepathy.

Also, IIRC H'El was shown to be able to create illusions, he could easily create illusions to make members of team 2 look like the enemy and make them fight amongst themselves.

Not that any of this really matters though, since Sentry can't die and this is a fight to the death.

None of that is offensive TP. Super adaptoid just couldn't handle sentrys powers and the other scans don't show anything of the sort.

H'el's illusions could just as easily be shapeshifting, which wouldn't work here given Prime's senses.

Yeah, so this is a stalemate after they KO them.

Supergirl couldn't see past H'El's illusions/shape shifting/whatever you want to call it so why should Prime be able to?

By the way, in @hulkman123's scans, Sentry has clearly just mind raped Super Adaptoid and in the other ones he's removed the memory of his existence from 7 billion people + the Inhumans, meaning he could easily mind wipe either character on team 2. By the way these TP scans are with a weaker, unstable Sentry.

You're in denial, Team 1 win easily.

#24 Posted by highaccuser (6846 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

@hulkman123 said:

@highaccuser said:

@hulkman123 said:

@highaccuser said:

@sophia89 said:

@highaccuser said:

Team 2.

team 1 has 2 tp in there so prime will be taken out.

majestic doesn't have the creation blades,and the match is to the death.Majestic has to somehow kill an immortal,while a guy that humiliated superman is backing him up.

not sure how team 2 take 1/10.

H'el doesn't have any good TP feats and all DSS did was mentally communicate with Thor and we don't know he has offensive TP.

I didn't see to the death. It likely ends in a stalemate with them KOing the team but not technically winning.

Normal Sentry TP feats count for DS Sentry, plus H'El's TP feats are more than good enough to cause trouble for team 2.

No they don't. Also he has no offensive telepath feats so it's a moot point. H'el isn't confirmed as having telepathy, certainly not enough to really harm someone..

@green_skaar said:

Fight to death...includes guy who can't die...hmm...team 1

They just knock him out and it becomes a stalemate.

Sentry does have offensive telepathy.

Also, IIRC H'El was shown to be able to create illusions, he could easily create illusions to make members of team 2 look like the enemy and make them fight amongst themselves.

Not that any of this really matters though, since Sentry can't die and this is a fight to the death.

None of that is offensive TP. Super adaptoid just couldn't handle sentrys powers and the other scans don't show anything of the sort.

H'el's illusions could just as easily be shapeshifting, which wouldn't work here given Prime's senses.

Yeah, so this is a stalemate after they KO them.

Supergirl couldn't see past H'El's illusions/shape shifting/whatever you want to call it so why should Prime be able to?

By the way, in @hulkman123's scans, Sentry has clearly just mind raped Super Adaptoid and in the other ones he's removed the memory of his existence from 7 billion people + the Inhumans, meaning he could easily mind wipe either character on team 2. By the way these TP scans are with a weaker, unstable Sentry.

You're in denial, Team 1 win easily.

Because she didn't see H'el shift. Also, Majestic is much smarter than Kara.

No...he gave him his powers and was overloaded. He may have wiped his existance from earth, but he clearly cannot normally use his powers to this degree due to a lack of control over them and hasn't used it enough to be an in character move.

#25 Edited by TheKing47 (961 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser:

But you said Prime and Majestic would be able to sense H'El's illusions/shape shifting/whatever you want to call it, but now you're saying that he's actually going to have to see him shift because he can't sense when he's done it.

Also Majestic might be smart enough to figure out the illusion, but Prime isn't.

Also, Sentry didn't overload Super Adaptoid because Super Adaptoid had Sentry's powers for longer than those scans show, and he only apparently overloaded when Sentry started talking about his mind and body, this sounds more like he mind raped him.

By the way, this is a more stable and amped Sentry, so he can use these powers to the degree in the scans and probably higher as well.

#26 Edited by dagmar_merrill (8712 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

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#27 Posted by highaccuser (6846 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser:

But you said Prime and Majestic would be able to sense H'El's illusions/shape shifting/whatever you want to call it, but now you're saying that he's actually going to have to see him shift because he can't sense when he's done it.

Also Majestic might be smart enough to figure out the illusion, but Prime isn't.

Also, Sentry didn't overload Super Adaptoid because Super Adaptoid had Sentry's powers for longer than those scans show, and he only apparently overloaded when Sentry started talking about his mind and body, this sounds more like he mind raped him.

By the way, this is a more stable and amped Sentry, so he can use these powers to the degree in the scans and probably higher as well.

Not sure what you're saying here, but H'el illusions are pretty vauge as of now.

He doesn't need to be. He has Supermans senses to see past illusions.

That's not what it looked like to me.

Key word being probably. He's only really proven that he's physically stronger and all he did with TP was enter Thor's mind.

#28 Edited by heroesgold (608 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

#29 Posted by TheKing47 (961 posts) - - Show Bio

@theking47 said:

@highaccuser:

But you said Prime and Majestic would be able to sense H'El's illusions/shape shifting/whatever you want to call it, but now you're saying that he's actually going to have to see him shift because he can't sense when he's done it.

Also Majestic might be smart enough to figure out the illusion, but Prime isn't.

Also, Sentry didn't overload Super Adaptoid because Super Adaptoid had Sentry's powers for longer than those scans show, and he only apparently overloaded when Sentry started talking about his mind and body, this sounds more like he mind raped him.

By the way, this is a more stable and amped Sentry, so he can use these powers to the degree in the scans and probably higher as well.

Not sure what you're saying here, but H'el illusions are pretty vauge as of now.

He doesn't need to be. He has Supermans senses to see past illusions.

That's not what it looked like to me.

Key word being probably. He's only really proven that he's physically stronger and all he did with TP was enter Thor's mind.

We're never going to come to a compromise.

Let's just agree to disagree.

#30 Posted by highaccuser (6846 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

@theking47 said:

@highaccuser:

But you said Prime and Majestic would be able to sense H'El's illusions/shape shifting/whatever you want to call it, but now you're saying that he's actually going to have to see him shift because he can't sense when he's done it.

Also Majestic might be smart enough to figure out the illusion, but Prime isn't.

Also, Sentry didn't overload Super Adaptoid because Super Adaptoid had Sentry's powers for longer than those scans show, and he only apparently overloaded when Sentry started talking about his mind and body, this sounds more like he mind raped him.

By the way, this is a more stable and amped Sentry, so he can use these powers to the degree in the scans and probably higher as well.

Not sure what you're saying here, but H'el illusions are pretty vauge as of now.

He doesn't need to be. He has Supermans senses to see past illusions.

That's not what it looked like to me.

Key word being probably. He's only really proven that he's physically stronger and all he did with TP was enter Thor's mind.

We're never going to come to a compromise.

Let's just agree to disagree.

Fine.

#31 Posted by green_skaar (4415 posts) - - Show Bio

@green_skaar said:

Fight to death...includes guy who can't die...hmm...team 1

They just knock him out and it becomes a stalemate.

That's not the conditions of the fight, besides he regenerates in seconds from any injury.

#32 Posted by highaccuser (6846 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

@green_skaar said:

Fight to death...includes guy who can't die...hmm...team 1

They just knock him out and it becomes a stalemate.

That's not the conditions of the fight, besides he regenerates in seconds from any injury.

So? If they KO them they won't be dying now will they.

Despite that Sentrys been KO'd many times. The DSS overwanking is appaling here.

#33 Edited by Frozen (13432 posts) - - Show Bio

Either Majestic or Prime one-shot H'el and then proceed to beat Sentry. The H'el wank has died down, atleast.

#34 Posted by green_skaar (4415 posts) - - Show Bio

So? If they KO them they won't be dying now will they.

Despite that Sentrys been KO'd many times. The DSS overwanking is appaling here.

DS Sentry has not been KO'd several times, he has had his brain smashed with Mjolnir and was fine as he regenerated. His body is inconsequential.

#35 Edited by highaccuser (6846 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

So? If they KO them they won't be dying now will they.

Despite that Sentrys been KO'd many times. The DSS overwanking is appaling here.

DS Sentry has not been KO'd several times, he has had his brain smashed with Mjolnir and was fine as he regenerated. His body is inconsequential.

I suppose. They'll just have to restrain him indefinantly.

@frozen said:

Either Majestic or Prime one-shot H'el and then proceed to beat Sentry. The H'el wank has died down, atleast.

Yup.

#36 Posted by Frozen (13432 posts) - - Show Bio

@green_skaar: Prime or Majestic still KO him, Majestic's moved every planet in the Solar System (and some planets are over 300x the mass of Earth) and Prime's pretty much done the same thing. And of course, they have better and more consistent feats all around.

#37 Posted by green_skaar (4415 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@green_skaar: Prime or Majestic still KO him, Majestic's moved every planet in the Solar System (and some planets are over 300x the mass of Earth) and Prime's pretty much done the same thing. And of course, they have better and more consistent feats all around.

You are missing my point, the OP's conditions were death. If it was death/KO I'd favor Team 2, but since it's to the death, Team 1.

#38 Posted by Jonez120 (4416 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 has a lot more raw power.

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#39 Edited by Frozen (13432 posts) - - Show Bio

@green_skaar: Then they can probably kill him, given we have two of the upmost powerhouses here, either of team 2 are 3-4x more powerful than standard Superman. H'el will get one-shotted and Sentry succumbs.

#40 Posted by green_skaar (4415 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@green_skaar: Then they can probably kill him, given we have two of the upmost powerhouses here, either of team 2 are 3-4x more powerful than standard Superman. H'el will get one-shotted and Sentry succumbs.

I'm not denying SBP or MM's power, I agree they are extremely powerful, however Sentry can not die. The match is silly, the fight conditions should be changed.

#41 Posted by Apocalypse3 (1508 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: @frozen: death seed sentry can't die ko doesn't win it for them but in the end if you can't die you win

#42 Posted by Jmarshmallow (7329 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

If for no other reason, then it's because Sentry can't die.

But I'd still take Team 1 anyway.

H'el beats Mr. Majestic without the creation blades, and I still think Sentry trumps Superman Prime.

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#43 Posted by highaccuser (6846 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: @frozen: death seed sentry can't die ko doesn't win it for them but in the end if you can't die you win

So? They just get KO'd and it becomes a stalemate.

@frozen said:

@green_skaar: Then they can probably kill him, given we have two of the upmost powerhouses here, either of team 2 are 3-4x more powerful than standard Superman. H'el will get one-shotted and Sentry succumbs.

I'm not denying SBP or MM's power, I agree they are extremely powerful, however Sentry can not die. The match is silly, the fight conditions should be changed.

It's still a stalemate once they KO him.

#44 Posted by termiteone4ever (7389 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 For Due to Hel

#45 Posted by reaverlation (15950 posts) - - Show Bio
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#46 Posted by Apocalypse3 (1508 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: But he will get back up and kill them team one wins

#47 Posted by highaccuser (6846 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: But he will get back up and kill them team one wins

They'll rip him apart and burn his remains. No getting up from that.

#48 Edited by Apocalypse3 (1508 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: what part of he can't die do you not understand

#49 Posted by green_skaar (4415 posts) - - Show Bio

@apocalypse3 said:

@highaccuser: But he will get back up and kill them team one wins

They'll rip him apart and burn his remains. No getting up from that.

He'll get up just fine. He was chilling in the sun for an extended period of time regenerating from a single atom over and over, being ripped up and burned isn't going to be an issue at all for Sentry, let alone now that he has the Death Seed.

#50 Posted by green_skaar (4415 posts) - - Show Bio

@apocalypse3 said:

@highaccuser: @frozen: death seed sentry can't die ko doesn't win it for them but in the end if you can't die you win

So? They just get KO'd and it becomes a stalemate.

@green_skaar said:

@frozen said:

@green_skaar: Then they can probably kill him, given we have two of the upmost powerhouses here, either of team 2 are 3-4x more powerful than standard Superman. H'el will get one-shotted and Sentry succumbs.

I'm not denying SBP or MM's power, I agree they are extremely powerful, however Sentry can not die. The match is silly, the fight conditions should be changed.

It's still a stalemate once they KO him.

Not according to the OP. Conditions are death, not KO. You seem to be missing this vital point.