Hearalds of Galactus vs. Elders of the Universe

•                                                                                  Location - Deep Space
•                                                                                  Morals - Off
•                                                                                   Who wins and why ?
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•  Silver Surfer                             Ego the living planet
•     Morg                                         Champion
•    Air Walker                                The Runner
•    Firelord               VS.                Obliterator
•    Fallen One                                Grandmaster
•    Nova                                         Contemplator
•    Stardust
•    Red Shift
•    Terrax

I say the Elders of the Universe. Does any of the Heralds have a means to stop The Runner? i remember reading an issue where the Runner catches up on Surfer and then manhandels him.

Hearalds win this

Champion and Obliterator are easy peasy, one has only strength and has beaten by She hulk while Silver Surfer easily transmutated Obliterators weapons left him helpless on a planet.

Contemplator has no feats apart from being eaten alive by Reptile Prime who still lost to silver surfer.

Grandmaster is kind a featless as well, although he was said to have reality manipulation powers but got his butt kicked by Rulk (that was Leob Force so dont know what to say).

Runner and Ego are going to be rather hard to handle, Heralds maybe because of superior number.

Also you've got Gardener on the picture but he's not in the line up? why :p no love for poor gardener?

• Eder's of the Universes have divided the Cosmic Power of the current Universe
• While the Herald's have fractions (depending on how Galactus created them) of the Cosmic Power of the Previous Universe

Only true difference is that the Heralds like to use their powers in various amounts of effects while the Elders strickly stick to what they are most familiar with of their practices.

Champion and Obliterator are easy peasy, one has only strength and has beaten by She hulk while Silver Surfer easily transmutated Obliterators weapons left him helpless on a planet.

Contemplator has no feats apart from being eaten alive by Reptile Prime who still lost to silver surfer.

Grandmaster is kind a featless as well, although he was said to have reality manipulation powers but got his butt kicked by Rulk (that was Leob Force so dont know what to say).

Runner and Ego are going to be rather hard to handle, Heralds maybe because of superior number.

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Killemall said:

Champion and Obliterator are easy peasy, one has only strength and has beaten by She hulk while Silver Surfer easily transmutated Obliterators weapons left him helpless on a planet.

Contemplator has no feats apart from being eaten alive by Reptile Prime who still lost to silver surfer.

Grandmaster is kind a featless as well, although he was said to have reality manipulation powers but got his butt kicked by Rulk (that was Leob Force so dont know what to say).

Runner and Ego are going to be rather hard to handle, Heralds maybe because of superior number.

Grandmaster acctually has shown pretty good feats in this Hulk comic. He was able to teleport both teams trough time and space, as well as bringing them back to life. I doubt that anyone beside Surfer will be able to comeback from BFR like that. Maybe Stardust. Ego + The Runner + Grandmaster ftw.

I agree with Grandmaster, Ego, and Runner being top dogs to Heralds Surfer and Stardust. However Morg and Fallen One are not to be taken lightly either.

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Killemall said:

Champion and Obliterator are easy peasy, one has only strength and has beaten by She hulk while Silver Surfer easily transmutated Obliterators weapons left him helpless on a planet.

Contemplator has no feats apart from being eaten alive by Reptile Prime who still lost to silver surfer.

Grandmaster is kind a featless as well, although he was said to have reality manipulation powers but got his butt kicked by Rulk (that was Leob Force so dont know what to say).

Runner and Ego are going to be rather hard to handle, Heralds maybe because of superior number.

Grandmaster acctually has shown pretty good feats in this Hulk comic. He was able to teleport both teams trough time and space, as well as bringing them back to life. I doubt that anyone beside Surfer will be able to comeback from BFR like that. Maybe Stardust. Ego + The Runner + Grandmaster ftw.

I agree with Grandmaster, Ego, and Runner being top dogs to Heralds Surfer and Stardust. However Morg and Fallen One are not to be taken lightly either.

Elders and bump

Hearalds.

None of the Elders are impressive outside of Ego and Grandmaster. Champion isn't near herald level without his amps.

Ego will run as soon as he loses the fight, and Grandmaster will get overcome quickly.

Runner was clowning SS when they met, and that was w/o the Space gem (no SG in scans)

@green_skaar: Runner did that due to his calming aura, which isolated Surfer's defences and allowed him to get his shots in.

Not going to work against multiple individuals, and he's a coward anyway. He'll run at the first sign of trouble.

I don't remember that, been a while, do you have a scan that attests to that? Tried to google some, and didn't' see anything. Thank you.

@green_skaar: His calming aura is described in detail in multiple databooks as being the reason why people become unnaturally friendly towards him (Surfer being a obvious example lol)

I haven't read it in a while, but Surfer states that to a specific effect before the fight actually starts.

Got it, thank you.

I don't know that it was the aura that allowed The Runner to beat Surfer, while the aura definitely effected Surfer, it really seemed like The Runner was just faster and more powerful.

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When has The Runner been noted to be a coward? I've never seen him run from a fight and in Infinity Countdown: Darkhawk #3 he was even shown sticking around in an "Elders + The Inbetweener vs Shuma-Gorath" fight flashback.

Grandmaster did one shot the Defenders in the 70s, including classic Doctor Strange. He also erased Kang's imperial guard from history as if they'd never existed, and bound Mistress Death against her will. A serious Grandmaster should solo.