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#1 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7470 posts) - - Show Bio

what do you think

#2 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Arrow's probably the better archer. He's written as being the best to ever touch a bow. Green Arrow can probably fight better too. He's been moving into DC's upper tier of martial artists. I'd have to say Green Arrow.

#3 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7470 posts) - - Show Bio

i agree

#4 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

Lets see if anyone else disagrees

#5 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know anything about either character. Would you two care to teach me?

#6 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

Well both are archers with good hand to hand skills. Green Arrow almost never misses while Hawkeye is very good. They both have trick arrows that can be used for lots of different functions, like a sonic arrow or explosive arrows... lots of different things.

#7 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7470 posts) - - Show Bio

but when it comes to strenght i say green arrow has it

#8 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh... I see. But you think that overall, Green Arrow's long distance skills are higher than Hawkeye

#9 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Oh... I see. But you think that overall, Green Arrow's long distance skills are higher than Hawkeye"

Definitely

#10 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh ok. I see clearly well if that's the case, than I can't really argue with you Forever

#11 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not an expert on either of them though. We'll see if someone else chimes in who knows more about them then we do.

#12 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7470 posts) - - Show Bio

yea me too i was just curious there not to popular

#13 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Too true Spidey, too true.

#14 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye really never misses either. I have several comics with him from His limited series to avengers and west coast avengers, and he hits any and everything he shoots. Green arrow also never misses, so It's really a tough call. I think Hercules is a better archer than both of them though

#15 Posted by Prodigal Son (3472 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with the above assessments. GA is by far the more skilled archer, plus he has the martial arts expertise and better agility.

#16 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7470 posts) - - Show Bio

thank you

#17 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Green arrow a great fighter? I know hawkeye is listed as an Olympic level athlete with the gymnastics skills of a carnival aerialist and the fighting skills of a student of captain america. He has above average human strength and can press 315pounds.

I don't really know Green arrows abilites that well.

#18 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

Valkaad says:

"Is Green arrow a great fighter? I know hawkeye is listed as an Olympic level athlete with the gymnastics skills of a carnival aerialist and the fighting skills of a student of captain america. He has above average human strength and can press 315pounds. I don't really know Green arrows abilites that well."

Green Arrow hired a group of top martial artists to raise his fighting level so he's up there now.

#19 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread was made before so if you look for it you'll find more responses. I'm not getting on you for making another one, just telling you that one exists. Anyway, Green Arrow wins for the reasons stated, he's a slightly better archer, and a much better fighter. However, as I said in the first thread, Hawkeye is crazy enough to fight the devil with an arrow and carries enough explosives to destroy a spaceship. I wouldn't count him out just because he looks outmatched.

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#20 Posted by Rotten gun (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

isn't hawkeye the new ronin? put ronin as is and hawkeye as he was together and then how powerful is he?

#21 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio

Still crazy, but not good enough.

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#22 Posted by Sync (960 posts) - - Show Bio

ulimate hawkeye could kill people with his fingernails, while tied up, and beat stupid. He also seem to carry heavy or cooler arrow heads, or arrows shafts, not even to mention fuction of his bow.

green arrow seems to be the better fighter but in "IMO" not by life threaten much. No in the cartoon(yes cartoon) GA carries a qutuam warhead (which kind of broke the "laws of p", but oh well) which would equal a shipship destoryer. But besides that his shafts suxs, and bow too.

i say hawkeye wins.

#23 Posted by Golden Boy (19 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Arrow wins easily. Hawkeye is great, but he is too headstrong and confident. Recently Green Arrow has gotten terriffic at strategizing. He ahd that Natas dude train him not just physically, but mentally. Hawkeye only ever had Cap train him, and his thinking is old fashioned and flawed, whereas GA knows how to think like a villain. No way Hawkeye could win without blowing himself up in the process.

#24 Posted by Sync (960 posts) - - Show Bio

Golden Boy says:

"Green Arrow wins easily. Hawkeye is great, but he is too headstrong and confident. Recently Green Arrow has gotten terriffic at strategizing. He ahd that Natas dude train him not just physically, but mentally. Hawkeye only ever had Cap train him, and his thinking is old fashioned and flawed, whereas GA knows how to think like a villain. No way Hawkeye could win without blowing himself up in the process."

????????????????????????????

hawkeye lead the avgeners, and you say he is too headstrong and confident?

captain amercia one of the greatest fighters, and tactical thinkers who leads the avgengers??/ your syaing captian is ol fashion and cant think??? and flawed??

not my place but being trainned by captain amercia says something., it like you saying someone got trainned by batman and suxs????? WTF

what thinking like a villian got to do with it, when hawkeye just says f$$$$ this and fires a volley of tactial nukes in GA loaction or way, what is that villian thinking going be saying or doing" OH $hiT"

#25 Posted by Final Arrow (24359 posts) - - Show Bio

Sync says:

"Golden Boy says:
"Green Arrow wins easily. Hawkeye is great, but he is too headstrong and confident. Recently Green Arrow has gotten terriffic at strategizing. He ahd that Natas dude train him not just physically, but mentally. Hawkeye only ever had Cap train him, and his thinking is old fashioned and flawed, whereas GA knows how to think like a villain. No way Hawkeye could win without blowing himself up in the process."
???????????????????????????? hawkeye lead the avgeners, and you say he is too headstrong and confident? captain amercia one of the greatest fighters, and tactical thinkers who leads the avgengers??/ your syaing captian is ol fashion and cant think??? and flawed?? not my place but being trainned by captain amercia says something., it like you saying someone got trainned by batman and suxs????? WTF what thinking like a villian got to do with it, when hawkeye just says f$$$$ this and fires a volley of tactial nukes in GA loaction or way, what is that villian thinking going be saying or doing" OH $hiT" "

Golden boy you need to explain more , I agree but these are my reason why.

Green Arrow recently under went a massive transfermation, He was trained by the best in the world not only in fighting but, Medicane, Food, Gadgets aand everything you could imgaine, Also the guy who trained Death Stroke, To prove himself capable the masters sent alot and I mean alot of Hitmen to kill Arrow all trained in various martail arts and weaponery , Green Arrow beat them and later went to beat Death Stroke.

Hawkeye may have been trained by Cap but I dont think he could take death stroke on and live.

Also sure Hawkeye has been the leader of the Avengers but Green Arrow was one of the orginal members of the JLA also he was in every JLA up to the new one then red Arrow took his place.

So it is pretty blanced but due to the new training and skills that Green Arrow has I think the battle goes to him

#26 Posted by Sync (960 posts) - - Show Bio

wow, i could barley follow that story of ga.

The story "imo" made him worst than superman and all his uber powers.

IT was hard for me to see him doing all that training, he should have done that before??

And in the end he beats deathstorke, seems like a uber give me to hype him ga up.

have we had a deathstroke vs cap trend, "imo" i see captain barely pulling it off, but standing tall.

still though hawkeye seems to have the edge, to me, but as it been said and is true, Ga new uber training would give him the edge.

#27 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7470 posts) - - Show Bio

green arrow does give him the edge

#28 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

If we're talking Ultimate Hawk vs Green, Hawk wins, normal, Green Wins

#29 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7470 posts) - - Show Bio

okay

#30 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

That's it, no more reason to argue

#31 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7470 posts) - - Show Bio

of they are normal green arrow

#32 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

What?

#33 Posted by tetralord (18 posts) - - Show Bio

g.a.,s fighting skilss must be improving as he wrestles with the canary each night. i somehow doubt she is the dead fish type. i bet she utilyzes all the spaces in the area. thus green arrow gets a real workout each night as well as whoever he fights during the day. he might be gettin tired though.

#34 Posted by Alpha (7325 posts) - - Show Bio

Forever says:

"Green Arrow's probably the better archer. He's written as being the best to ever touch a bow. Green Arrow can probably fight better too. He's been moving into DC's upper tier of martial artists. I'd have to say Green Arrow."

I think Green Arrow is the better archer but not fighter. Hawkeye was trained by Cap. He's more agile. His persona right now is a ninja. Ironman wated him to be the new Cap because he is able to use the shield almost as well, so he can use other weapons.

#35 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"I think Green Arrow is the better archer but not fighter. Hawkeye was trained by Cap. He's more agile. His persona right now is a ninja. Ironman wated him to be the new Cap because he is able to use the shield almost as well, so he can use other weapons. "

and Green Arrow has also trained with Batman, Nightwing, Black Canary and Natas, who trained Deathstroke (The best assassin in the DCU)...

i don't know much about Hawkeye so i won't comment on the fight, but i wouldn't put GA's fighting skills down so quickly when he has trained under the best of the DCU fighters...

M

#36 Posted by Alpha (7325 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Alpha says:
"I think Green Arrow is the better archer but not fighter. Hawkeye was trained by Cap. He's more agile. His persona right now is a ninja. Ironman wated him to be the new Cap because he is able to use the shield almost as well, so he can use other weapons. "
and Green Arrow has also trained with Batman, Nightwing, Black Canary and Natas, who trained Deathstroke (The **best** assassin in the DCU)... i don't know much about Hawkeye so i won't comment on the fight, but i wouldn't put GA's fighting skills down so quickly when he has trained under the best of the DCU fighters... M"

Deathstroke is the best assassin in the DCU? I thought it was Lady Shiva. I know I read where Batman stated this.

#37 Posted by Alpha (7325 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry. A little off topic. Just curious.

#38 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"Deathstroke is the best assassin in the DCU? I thought it was Lady Shiva. I know I read where Batman stated this. "

Shiva is the top hand to hand fighter... or she was a while back...

she very rarely takes assassin work as it's 'dishonorable'... while Deathstroke is primarily an Assassin who trained in pretty much every form of combat known to man.

M

#39 Posted by Alpha (7325 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Alpha says:
"Deathstroke is the best assassin in the DCU? I thought it was Lady Shiva. I know I read where Batman stated this. "
Shiva is the top hand to hand fighter... or she was a while back... she very rarely takes assassin work as it's 'dishonorable'... while Deathstroke is primarily an Assassin who trained in pretty much every form of combat known to man. M "

Gotcha!

#40 Posted by WavyFLATLINE (87 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a draw. These guys are so good with their bows that they'd probably kill each other. I've said this before, neither Marvel or D.C. would ever say that their premiere archer was inferior to the other. I like both of them but Hawkeye is my favorite archer.

Still, this is a draw.

-WavyFLATLINE

#41 Posted by dishwasher (65 posts) - - Show Bio

cap beats the vest fighters in marvel with ease, he pwned wolverine into sumission and you is gonna say "hey meng his premiere disciple can't beat some corny dood named deathstroke!"

i have a negative amound of respect for the DCU, they have the penguin, THE PENGUIN MAN.

#42 Posted by Alex Prime (329 posts) - - Show Bio

Green arrow

#43 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

dishwasher says:

i have a negative amound of respect for the DCU, they have the penguin, THE PENGUIN MAN."

Who is a much better character than oh I don't know

TRIATHLON!

Don't hate on DC for having some silly characters.

For every silly Batman villain there is a silly Spider-Man villain (most of which are actually pretty cool).

#44 Posted by kuchiku (4070 posts) - - Show Bio

green arrow cause hes got different arrows for differtent things

#45 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

kuchiku says:

"green arrow cause hes got different arrows for differtent things"

So does Hawkeye. :p

How bout Green Arrow because he's now a ninja.

Oh wait, so is Hawkeye.

Green Arrow because Hawkeye is too headstrong and overconfident? Headstrong and overconfident...who does that describe? Oh wait, Green Arrow!

Really, they have the exact same abilities these days.

Classic GA was the better archer and classic Hawkeye was better in hand to hand.

Currently, Green Arrow is better because even though his book is written by Winnick, you really can't do (much) worse than Bendis. Also, he has an interesting supporting cast, which is more than can be said for Hawkeye, who barely gets to even say anything in his book anyways because he isn't the main character.

#46 Posted by kuchiku (4070 posts) - - Show Bio

who won the marvel vs dc green arrow!!!

that about sums it up!!

cant argue with the creators can yah!!

#47 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

kuchiku says:

"who won the marvel vs dc green arrow!!! that about sums it up!! cant argue with the creators can yah!!"

Actually, I'll argue all day against everything that happened in Marvel vs DC. ;)

This is the same comic book where Wolverine with bone claws ripped Thanos appart and beat Lobo right? The same book where he had trouble beating Killer Croc? The same book where Juggernaut was beaten by physical force? Where Storm beat Wonder Woman?

No, Marvel vs DC was a joke.

I agree with the outcome, but it can't be cannon.

#48 Posted by kuchiku (4070 posts) - - Show Bio

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#49 Posted by kuchiku (4070 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom says:

"kuchiku says:
"who won the marvel vs dc green arrow!!! that about sums it up!! cant argue with the creators can yah!!"
Actually, I'll argue all day against everything that happened in Marvel vs DC. ;) This is the same comic book where Wolverine with bone claws ripped Thanos appart and beat Lobo right? The same book where he had trouble beating Killer Croc? The same book where Juggernaut was beaten by physical force? Where Storm beat Wonder Woman? No, Marvel vs DC was a joke. I agree with the outcome, but it can't be cannon."

youre a fool zoom

wanna be freinds

#50 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol.

Sure.