Hashirama and Madara vs Akainu and Aokiji

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#1  Edited By ghost_rider1

The fight take place on Punk Hazard

Madara and Hashirama are in their prime(Not Edo Tensei)

Everyone is bloodlusted

No morals

They start 100m apart

Who wins in this all out battle?

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#2  Edited By ghost_rider1
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The fight take place on Punk Hazard

Madara and Hashirama are in their prime(Not Edo Tensei)

Everyone is bloodlusted

No morals

They start 100m apart

Who wins in this all out battle?
Chakra and Haki is the same thing
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#3  Edited By afueikawa

@ghost_rider1 said:

The fight take place on Punk Hazard Madara and Hashirama are in their prime(Not Edo Tensei) Everyone is bloodlusted No morals They start 100m apart Who wins in this all out battle?

Does that mean Madara have the 9 tails?

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#4  Edited By BlackWind

100m is more than enough distance for the Admirals to wreck everything in sight. The side effect from their 10 day battle forever changed the climate of an island, turning one half into a frozen wasteland with frozen mountains, and the other half a magma filled hot zone with volcanoes.

The range of the Admirals is far too great. Any trees Hashirama creates would be frozen cold or burned to the ground before they even get close.

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#5  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

I haven't read the latest Naruto..but I heard Hashirama was a boss in it...

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#6  Edited By ghost_rider1
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@ghost_rider1 said:

The fight take place on Punk Hazard Madara and Hashirama are in their prime(Not Edo Tensei) Everyone is bloodlusted No morals They start 100m apart Who wins in this all out battle?

Does that mean Madara have the 9 tails?

Yes...
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#7  Edited By NeonGameWave

Team 2 wrecks.

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#8  Edited By New_World_Order

Hashimaru & Madara

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#9  Edited By BlackWind

Nevermind then. The Admirals aren't taking out a Bijuu with logia dispersion nullified.

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#10  Edited By afueikawa

@BlackWind said:

100m is more than enough distance for the Admirals to wreck everything in sight. The side effect from their 10 day battle forever changed the climate of an island, turning one half into a frozen wasteland with frozen mountains, and the other half a magma filled hot zone with volcanoes.

The range of the Admirals is far too great. Any trees Hashirama creates would be frozen cold or burned to the ground before they even get close.

I don't think team 1 would just stand there.

And 10 days battle to change (or even destroy) an island is < than the Team 1 doing it in a day fight (latest manga chapter).

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#11  Edited By SpeedForceSpider

Madara and Hashirama have this in the bag.

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#12  Edited By ghost_rider1
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Nevermind then. The Admirals aren't taking out a Bijuu with logia dispersion nullified.

Its possible....aokiji froze the sea with just one finger. There chances are really good. If they are going all out with their devil fruit powers
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#13  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@BlackWind said:

The Admirals aren't taking out a Bijuu with logia dispersion nullified.

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#14  Edited By SpideyPresence

Logia Dispersion nullified? Horrible stomp for Madara and Hashirama. These men summon meteors, and Wood Gods Bigger than mountain ranges.

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#15  Edited By PsychoJack

Mismatch. Goes to Hashirama and Madara.

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Team 1

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#17  Edited By Simon_the_digger

@Mr_Ingenuity said:

@BlackWind said:

The Admirals aren't taking out a Bijuu with logia dispersion nullified.

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#18  Edited By dondave

Team 1 ftw

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#19  Edited By afueikawa

@SpideyPresence said:

Logia Dispersion nullified? Horrible stomp for Madara and Hashirama. These men summon meteors, and Wood Gods Bigger than mountain ranges.

This is already a stomp for Team 1.

Them in their latest incarnation and it would already be a spite.

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#20  Edited By Rumble Man

Team 2

since speed isn't equalized

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#21  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

Lol things change so much in just every chapter.. one week before I was doubting whether ninjas could keep up with raw power of admirals. Now it's the opposite lol

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#22  Edited By afueikawa

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Team 2

since speed isn't equalized

I doubt this after reading the latest Naruto Manga chapters.

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#23  Edited By Rumble Man

@afueikawa: His fight with hashirama in the flashback ? doubt it

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#24  Edited By morgrim

Team 2 in terms of raw power they are more than equal same goes for speed and strength however team 2 has significantly greater stamina and durability

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#25  Edited By Rumble Man

@morgrim: don't forget armament haki and CoO

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#26  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@morgrim said:

Team 2 in terms of raw power they are more than equal same goes for speed and strength however team 2 has significantly greater stamina and durability

Not sure about raw power anymore. But team 1 has far more than enough versatility to cope for it.

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#27  Edited By Rumble Man

@PrinceAragorn1: Madara has the means but I feel bad for hashirama because trees are flammable and pollen is affected by temperature

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#28  Edited By afueikawa

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@PrinceAragorn1: Madara has the means but I feel bad for hashirama because trees are flammable and pollen is affected by temperature

Not to mention he has the 9 tails with him.

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#29  Edited By Rumble Man

@afueikawa: Madara does, hashi does not but then again 9-tails is another weak link

It comes down to admirals vs Madara

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#30  Edited By morgrim

@PrinceAragorn1: Akoji froze a good portion of the sea with his finger and akainu had melted fire.

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#31  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

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@PrinceAragorn1: Madara has the means but I feel bad for hashirama because trees are flammable and pollen is affected by temperature

He'll deal with Aokiji.. suffocate him. Or kizaru, who just has energy beams. And though trees are flammable, that doesn't stop him from keeping them growing them to overwhelm akainu. Or just seal him in a wood barrier repeatedly.. It can take a bijju bomb, it's enough to keep akainu down.

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#32  Edited By afueikawa

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@afueikawa: Madara does, hashi does not but then again 9-tails is another weak link

It comes down to admirals vs Madara

Nope, in the latest chapters, he (Madara) made the 9 tails used Susanoo as its armor and Hashirama had to cope up with a bigger summon.

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#33  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@morgrim said:

@PrinceAragorn1: Akoji froze a good portion of the sea with his finger and akainu had melted fire.

Depends on how good portion... Wood elementals can create forests in an instance..

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#34  Edited By Rumble Man

@afueikawa: Biju needs madara to do that, on its own its weak then again without EDO madara is squishy

@PrinceAragorn1: Aokiji can flash freeze the environment as he did with the sea, (aint no kizaru here dude [that would be a stomp]) That also does not stop akainu in spamming ryujin kazan in all directions. Wood barrier would fail...

Madara is the real threat here

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#35  Edited By afueikawa

@Rumble Man:

@PrinceAragorn1:

We'll have to wait further for the upcoming chapters.

I won't give any firm arguments for now. :-)

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#36  Edited By morgrim

@PrinceAragorn1: The distance between two islands. And he froze it hard enough and wide enough that a village of people could traverse it with their luggage and cattle and stuff. And it wouldnt melt for 5 days. all in 5 seconds with a finger

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#37  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@Rumble Man said:

@afueikawa: Biju needs madara to do that, on its own its weak then again without EDO madara is squishy

@PrinceAragorn1: Aokiji can flash freeze the environment as he did with the sea, (aint no kizaru here dude [that would be a stomp]) That also does not stop akainu in spamming ryujin kazan in all directions. Wood barrier would fail...

Madara is the real threat here

Freezing them isn't going to help him escape if the trees surround him..

The wood barrier is good enough to tank tbbs. Tanking kazan is not a problem. And besides, first hokage is also a water user. He could use water to counter.. Shodai>Madara.

Anyway, the next chapters will reveal more things.. so let's wait.

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#38  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@afueikawa: I can wait happily till then.

Who I'm kidding, honestly, I can't wait for the chapters to come out.. all of them are in pretty crucial mode.

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#39  Edited By morgrim

@PrinceAragorn1: When akoji freezes the object becomes more brittle than glass so yeah he could destroy all the trees by waving his hand

and water isnt exactly all that effective against magma

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#40  Edited By Rumble Man

@afueikawa: @PrinceAragorn1:

Imma wait too, since apparently Akainu has become a big shot now (need to wait for feats)

Brittle Frozen trees, the hell is tbbs? (plus the plants absorb chakra)

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#41  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@morgrim: he'll still have to break a boatload of trees and ice surrounding him. And the first could keep him surrounding him till he suffocates.. or just use earth to seal him in. Not like it's going to become brittle.. (Hopefully his scales won't change element wise, as yamato has the same DNA and he can use all three on same scale..) He's three elements, no just wood. But as afueikawa says, we should wait up a bit.

It's a water+earth barrier and water. So yes.. it is.

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#42  Edited By Skit

Team 1 but only because they have the power of dat rock.

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I think the main problem for team 1 is their durability. Once Sakazuki and Kuzan bypass their defenses like Wood Release and Susano'o, will they be able to tank the blows delivered to them by the Admirals?

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#44  Edited By ArrowRain

Team 1. Speed will not matter as these ninjas are fast as lighting.

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#45  Edited By morgrim

@Rumble Man: Contrary to popular belief haki and devil fruit power is COMPLETELY different from chakra

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#46  Edited By morgrim

@PrinceAragorn1: you make destroying trees sound hard. The guy can level mountains and freeze oceans a bunch of brittle trees a baby could break will be no problem for him. also earth, wood and water can all be frozen and destroyed in a split second

@ArrowRain: Speed does matter as the admirals are in fact faster and would get in more punches

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#47  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@Shiryu said:

I think the main problem for team 1 is their durability. Once Sakazuki and Kuzan bypass their defenses like Wood Release and Susano'o, will they be able to tank the blows delivered to them by the Admirals?

Point.

Deva path did withstand pretty crazy things though, and I'd say the God ninja duo have higher durability..

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#48  Edited By Rumble Man

@morgrim: yep, equivalency is just to prevent haki-crush and genjustu sh!t

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#49  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@morgrim: I didn't say anything about freezing. I'm not sure he's physically very strong. anyway. I am hoping they show some of his earth techniques.. That makes ice rather useless..

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#50  Edited By xtremekidx

id say any jutsu that the they use can be countered by the admirals,the admirals have very strong haki,meaning they can get off the genjutsu and they can also hold their own in a physical clash....a bit tough for me but admirals take it in the end..