Haru Glory Vs Zoro

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Wide open field

Starting distance 30 feet

Scenario 1: Haru morals on.

Scenario 2: Haru and zoro bloodlusted.

Explain your reasons why who wins, don't just give two sentences why. at least a small paragraph or something.

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I haven't read Rave Master yet(I'm pretty sure it is better than Fairly Tales,what I heard of it)

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@homicidalmaniac: Dude the manga is so much better than the anime, plus haru is allot stronger in the manga then he in in the anime. the series is amazing, check it out.

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I was a huge Rave Master fan back in the day. This will be a very tough match. Which could end in stalemate Zoro is tough but Haru's been blown up numerous times before he became rave master and didn't stay down. He also has a more versatile weapon so I think he'd take it in the end.

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@deathhero61:I am planning to read Rave Master in a week or so.

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Have no idea who haru is, but he looks like a mix between dante and cloud so he looks like he could be tough, can someone drop a knowledge bomb on me (powers, skills, etc)?

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@cgoodness: Hmmmm i haven't read the series in a while but i'll try. Haru is the rave master. He has decent physical strength, amazing speed in his base form, and the basis of his abilities rely on his sword play, his sword is called the 10 forms, with each sword form, haru gets a specific, bonus.

  • Form 1 - Eisenmeteor: The original form of the Ten Commandments, it's a plain metal sword that can't be blocked from magic attacks. This was shown in the first confrontation between Haru and Sieg Hart.Its highly durable.
  • Form 2 - Explosion: A sword with no proper cutting edge but creates a powerful explosion on contact with the enemy. It is Haru's first sword gained from Rave and his most commonly used. However, the shock of the impact is powerful to the extent that if Haru uses it in succession too much, it could possibly hurt or kill him.(it can also be used to launch fireballs. Plus the after effects of Explosion barely affect haru anymore.)
  • Form 3 - Silfarion: This sword allows the Rave Master to become extremely light, granting great speed and the ability to create blades of air for long-ranged attacks. Silpharion can also be used with Explosion to create a special attack called "Bombing Dive" ("Twelve Wings of the Explosive Dragon") which fires explosive blades at the enemy. However, the Silpharion is relatively weak as a melee weapon and is no more than a normal sword for attacking.(its basically weaker than using form 1 sword but its really useful for constantly slicing his foes, which is equivalent to one power slash) This form also allows Haru to catch his opponents unaware.
  • Form 4 - Runesave: A unique jagged sword which cannot cut anything physical but can cut things without a tangible form like lightning, fire, water or smoke. It can also be used to seal magic, and is used by Haru to seal Elie's Etherion. Later, in a battle between Haru and Lucia, Lucia uses his Decalogus Runesave to seal Haru's Runesave, making him unable to block Lucia's magic attacks.
  • Form 5 - Blue Crimson: The Ten Commandments splits into two blades with one having the properties of fire and the other having the properties of ice. The fire and ice can also be used as ranged attacks. To use the sword to its full potential, the user needs to be ambidextrous, making this sword hard to use for Haru since he is right-handed. This sword is also useful in fending off attacks from two opponents simultaneously. During his duel with the various members of Oracion Seis, Haru used Blue Crimson to fend off Berial and Reina's combined attacks. Ironically, Haru first uses these twin blades against Let, who belongs to the dragon race.(his explosion sword broke in half, and in that brief moment, he formed a sword of ice from the first half of the sword, and formed a sword of flames out of the broken blade which was the second half of the sword.)
  • Form 6 - Mel Force: The sword of air, this form allows the user to fire powerful bursts of air at the enemy to blow them away and paralyze them.(this is especially useful if someone tries to attack and he blocks then switches to melforce in order to blow his opponents away.
  • Form 7 - Gravity Core: An incredibly destructive sword that is able to cut through very hard things. However, the tradeoff is its extremely heavy weight and thus requiring great strength to use. Although more powerful than Explosion, it's a very difficult blade to utilize. Haru usually jumps/swings up before switching to Gravity Core for maximum damage.
  • Form 8 - Million Suns: Meaning "the force of a million suns." A sword whose blade is composed purely of Light, the holy light generally blinds Haru's opponents and dispels darkness. Used by Haru to defeat Pumpkin Doryu and disabled the power of his Dark Bring.(basically the embodiment of light but it won't be used against zoro.)
  • Form 9 - Sacrifar: The most destructive of all the forms, Sacrifar is a frightening blade of bloodlust that trades the user's emotion and will for the power of Carnage. As the sword was not made for Haru (but rather Shiba), the sword will take over the user after sometime. Even Lucia was only able to remain in control for a short period while using the Decalogus version of Sacrifar.
  • Current Default/Form 10 - Ravelt [In anime called : Star Raver] : The most powerful form of the Ten Commandments. When Musica discovers that a tenth form of the Ten Commandments was never made for Haru, he takes it on himself to create one, using a piece of his Silver, left over metal from the first Ten Commandments and a mixture of blacksmith and silver manipulation skills (he almost died from exhaustion in the process). Ravelt has the power to dispel evil and becomes the default sword, while still being able to transform and use the powers of the other swords using Rave. Haru uses Ravelt to destroy Shiba's Ten Commandments so it can rest with him up in heaven.

Fused Moves

  • Haru can combine his sword abilities to create a variety of effects:
    • Explosion + Silfarion - "Silver Drive" or "Twelve Wing of the Exploding Dragon":
      • The most commonly used combination technique. It creates twelve swift explosions that Haru normally uses to quickly take out a large number of foes.
    • Runesave + Melforce - Runeforce:
      • Creates a tunnel through fluids. For the duration of the ability, the fluid will not flow into the tunnel allowing Haru passage. Haru has used this twice. Once to avoid falling into acid before Musica could save him, the second to strand the oni in mid air by pushing away the sea before he unleashed Explosive wings.
    • Explosion + Blue Crimson - Dual Explosion:
      • Basically a double Explosion. It is likely this is more focused and thus more powerful attack than Silver Drive.

Rave/Holy Bring

The Rave Stones or Holy Bring are 5 mystical stones with holy powers. They were created by Resha Valentine, using the immense power of Etherion, to battle the evil powers of Dark Bring. Rave was meant for only one person to use, the Rave Master. Only the power that created it can fuse it together, and once that happens the true purpose and power of Rave will be revealed.

One of Haru's special powers is the ability to use Rave. Its main piece connects to 1st form "Eisenmeteor", which is the sword's deafult form of the Decaforce Sword, Ten Commandments, which he received from Shiba after learning that he was the new Rave Master. The Decaforce Sword (Ten Commandments) were created and formed by Galein Musica, storing each form within Rave's memory, as he forged the next. but being that Galein Musica couldn't use Rave, he was highly irresponsible about it.

The Main Piece of Rave powers up the Rave Master by giving:

Superhuman Strength, speed, agility, stamina, endurance and durability. Given enough time, it's possible that it can enhance these abilities even further as after months of being the Rave Master, Haru managed to defeat 1000 or more demons in one battle.(without a break, plus most of these demons can classify as low midtier.) When Haru punches while holding the main piece in his fist, it can cause explosions on impact.

The Rave of Knowledge provides Haru with warrior skills and techniques; if he is given a clue to something he can discover what it is easily. It also allows him to know, summon and use the 10 forms of the Ten Commandments sword.

The Rave of Combat not only enhances Haru's physical attributes even further, but it also allows him and Plue to project forcefields. This Rave is said to be Plue's exclusive Rave.

The Rave of Destiny allows Haru to speak with Sage Pendragon who is a Prophet.

The Rave of Truth speaks the truth; it revealed that Haru, up till Chapter 238, was not the true Rave Master. This led to a dramatic duel with the previous Rave Master, Shiba.

I'm too lazy to explain durability feats but he was skilled enough to take down lucia(lucia took down 50 teams that could be classified as top tiers by himself in 4 hours, along with decimating everyone except the oracion six by himself.)

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@deathhero61: sounds like Ravemaster would be BA video game lol, Zoro is pretty skilled though, But from what you said it sounds like Haru can overwhelm him.

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What's Haru's durability?

I would say Zoro could take this, by no means will it be an easy fight, but Zoro can take a beating, He never uses magic, he has fought against many elements, he has overcome so much pain by himself he can fight under water as if he were on land, he loves the challenge. Honestly this would be a badass fight, He hasn't even shown his full potential on the Manga yet specially after the Jump. Idk much about Haru but if this were just a sword fight he would lose : )

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@light47 said:

What's Haru's durability?

I would say Zoro could take this, by no means will it be an easy fight, but Zoro can take a beating, He never uses magic, he has fought against many elements, he has overcome so much pain by himself he can fight under water as if he were on land, he loves the challenge. Honestly this would be a badass fight, He hasn't even shown his full potential on the Manga yet specially after the Jump. Idk much about Haru but if this were just a sword fight he would lose : )

The kid's terribly durable. He was blown up a number of times at point blank range before he even got his sword. He's never been bled like Zoro but he can take a beating.

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haru speed feats?

can he keep up with zoro? land a hit while Haki is up?

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@light47 said:

What's Haru's durability?

I would say Zoro could take this, by no means will it be an easy fight, but Zoro can take a beating, He never uses magic, he has fought against many elements, he has overcome so much pain by himself he can fight under water as if he were on land, he loves the challenge. Honestly this would be a badass fight, He hasn't even shown his full potential on the Manga yet specially after the Jump. Idk much about Haru but if this were just a sword fight he would lose : )

The kid's terribly durable. He was blown up a number of times at point blank range before he even got his sword. He's never been bled like Zoro but he can take a beating.

Well just wondering is this thread made to give Haru an advantage because doesn't mention if Zoro is bloodlusted on round 2 neither on round 1. Idk I can't decide I want to say Zoro as i am not sure if he can cut Harus sword, as he can easily cut up steel like paper now. Haru can take an explosion but can't Zoro just cut him in half if he were bloodlusted? Correct me if i'm wrong as idk what feats Haru has, i read up there about what he sword does.

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@cooldes said:

haru speed feats?

can he keep up with zoro? land a hit while Haki is up?

probably with Silfarion. Haven't read rave master in a good while though. Runesave should deal with Haki.

The problem, and the reason I think Zoro wins, is that Haru has to constantly be changing sword types to match up with Zoro, and he's bound to get caught with the wrong one out at least once.

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@dratini1331: actually with the rave of combat haru will have crazy good combat instinct, and plus haru changes the sword forms mid combo makes him unpredictable, haru has different fighting strategies/styles with each form. Combining silfarion with gravity force would be devastating.

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End of series Haru could deal with Pre-Timeskip Zoro.

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Does Hare have any defense against Zoros new "i-can-kill-you-stare" ? I am not yet sure if this is a nasty use of haki, some weird swordfighter power or sheer willpower of Zoro but if he uses this it could take the fight out of Haru.

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@stompa: Umm yes? If he has a strong enough will to stand up to King then im pretty damn sure he has a large enough will to survive his "i-can-kill-you-stare" which by the way is not even CH its just his killing intent/murderous aura.

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@light47 said:

@nelomaxwell said:

@light47 said:

What's Haru's durability?

I would say Zoro could take this, by no means will it be an easy fight, but Zoro can take a beating, He never uses magic, he has fought against many elements, he has overcome so much pain by himself he can fight under water as if he were on land, he loves the challenge. Honestly this would be a badass fight, He hasn't even shown his full potential on the Manga yet specially after the Jump. Idk much about Haru but if this were just a sword fight he would lose : )

The kid's terribly durable. He was blown up a number of times at point blank range before he even got his sword. He's never been bled like Zoro but he can take a beating.

Well just wondering is this thread made to give Haru an advantage because doesn't mention if Zoro is bloodlusted on round 2 neither on round 1. Idk I can't decide I want to say Zoro as i am not sure if he can cut Harus sword, as he can easily cut up steel like paper now. Haru can take an explosion but can't Zoro just cut him in half if he were bloodlusted? Correct me if i'm wrong as idk what feats Haru has, i read up there about what he sword does.

Zoro is always bloodlusted when fighting powerful opponents, so me putting zoro bloodlusted makes no real difference. His morals are put into serious question considering he knew the celestial dragon that was threatening him was trash but yet he was ready to kill him as soon as the celestial dragon shot the first bullet. If it wasn't for one of the supernovas, kizaru would have been at sabody earlier. Thats why he always have a murderous intent just by staring at people. Thats why on forums people constantly debate whether or not zoro has Conquers haki due to his killing intent. He is always ready to kill.

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@stompa: Umm yes? If he has a strong enough will to stand up to King then im pretty damn sure he has a large enough will to survive his "i-can-kill-you-stare" which by the way is not even CH its just his killing intent/murderous aura.

I don´t know if this is a matter of will to withstand this. Monet didn´t strike me as a fearful person she even defended Cesar from Luffy with her snow but that stare devastated her. And if Zoro would always have a really murderous intention when fighting he wouldn´t even use such an ability in the first place but instead simply cut his opoonent into pieces like shown.

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Remember Zoro taking in all the pin from Luffy, combined with his own? Well Haru once took all the pain he's ever felt since he was born, at once. Also he took hits from Lucia while fused with Endless, who is confirmed planet level.

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@deathhero61 said: "Zoro is always bloodlusted when fighting powerful opponents, so me putting zoro bloodlusted makes no real difference. His morals are put into serious question considering he knew the celestial dragon that was threatening him was trash but yet he was ready to kill him as soon as the celestial dragon shot the first bullet. If it wasn't for one of the supernovas, kizaru would have been at sabody earlier. Thats why he always have a murderous intent just by staring at people. Thats why on forums people constantly debate whether or not zoro has Conquers haki due to his killing intent. He is always ready to kill."

Zoro never fights bloodlusted, he fights to win, he never fights to kill. Bloodlusted means he has no morals, he doesn't care if his enemy lives or dies, when he has morals he defeats them, and walks away. There is a big difference. You are mistaken, You are also mistaken about his "murderous intent by starring at people" He intimidates them with his strength and if he were to fight serious they would stand no chance of winning its intimidation can also be a haki but its his presence alone that does the job without using hakith. He obviously slashes her but doesn't use haki as he did not intend to kill her so yeah you saying that Zoro is always bloodlusted is extremely wrong.

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Remember Zoro taking in all the pin from Luffy, combined with his own? Well Haru once took all the pain he's ever felt since he was born, at once. Also he took hits from Lucia while fused with Endless, who is confirmed planet level.

Physical pain or emotional pain? I don't know much about Haru so I can't give you feats on why Zoro would win, I don't know enough about Haru. Also Lucia fused with Endless is planet level? How? Teach me I don't know who this is.

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First of all, RAVE is a million times better than Fairy Tail. Just saiyan. But seriously, I can't post images anymore though. And it was physical pain. And Endless is basically time and.space.itself, having existed since the beginning of everything. The Overdrive has the ability to destroy Earth, and it has even done it 50 years ago by destroying a 10th of the world.

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Cool fight. Can Zorro withstand a Silfarion + Gravity Core combo? If so, how about Explosion. I'm pretty sure that Zorro can handle Eisenmeteor's other forms. Of course, if we are talking about swordsmanship skills here, Zorro takes it. I haven't been keeping up with OP ever since the Manga entered the Merman Island arc. Also, isn't Ravelt practically useless? I am unable to find any strong feats for it (yet). Regarding the outcome of the match, I want to say Haru but Zorro has proven to be freakishly resilient and his full potential has yet to be reached. This is a toughie. Could go both ways, I suppose.

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@blackwind said:

First of all, RAVE is a million times better than Fairy Tail. Just saiyan. But seriously, I can't post images anymore though. And it was physical pain. And Endless is basically time and.space.itself, having existed since the beginning of everything. The Overdrive has the ability to destroy Earth, and it has even done it 50 years ago by destroying a 10th of the world.

That Endless guy sounds so destructive.

So i did some research and read a few chapters of the EoS from Raven Master, if he fights like that with Zoro, Zoro will cut his sword dodge the explosions and cut him up on Round 1 that's how i see it. Now if Haru is Bloodlusted, I say there is a 6/10 towards Haru if Zoro doesn't use Haki but if Zoro uses his haki to read his movements and predict how he is going to attack he can slice him up, Zoro dodges light beams and bullets which seem a lot faster the explosion Haru sends out as I was seen other characters dodge them and I saw a video where Haru gets his sword broken but fixes, but if his sword can be broken, Zoro will cut it up and cut him before he puts it back together, This is all assuming of course so going to say

Round 1: Zoro

Round 2: 6/10 leaning towards Zoro if he uses haki, depends on the situation of course as this is hypothetical.

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Zorro has a chance here.

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#26  Edited By DeathHero61

@light47: both physical and emotional. But if you truly think it makes a difference then fine.

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Bump cause this looked interesting.

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Zoro should be significantly faster from what I recall of Rave Master. But it's been awhile.

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@jmarshmallow: Didn't he react to Lightning and used Runesave on it? Anyway from power scaling i hear he should be pretty fast. He supposedly blitzed a guy that blitzed a guy who was dodging lasers. I know thats kinda a weird scaling, but thats the best i remember since no one on this site (or me) remembers much if anything of Rave Master.

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Haru shows Zoro the glory

Kneel Before Zod

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Zoro blitzes Haru

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@kingzod said:

Haru shows Zoro the glory

Kneel Before Zod

By now shouldn't Haru be below Zoro with his current feats?

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@kingzod said:

Haru shows Zoro the glory

Kneel Before Zod

By now shouldn't Haru be below Zoro with his current feats?

So Zoro has country level durability, and has Multi-mountain-Island level DC? Haru is also mach 1800+

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