Punisher would take it with prep...
Harry Potter vs The Punisher
Harry has great potential, but he's easily shaken and it takes him a while to form powerful spells. I doubt Frank would give him the time.
By the Harry potter pulls out his wand and tries to chant a spell, The punisher would have already pulled out a S&W .45 and puts three shot to the head.
does Harry have his invisibility cloak? if so, he stomps
And bump.
It's been a while since I've read the books, but the cloak just makes him invisible right? I mean being invisible means you just can't be seen, so if Punisher gets a lucky shot..
Harry takes this. He has shown some great reflexes. And he's very versatile. Frank won't know what to expect from him. Once Harry is behind cover, or pulls up a Protego, there are dozens of ways he can finish Frank.
Levicorpus
Immobulus
A well aimed Diffindo
Sectumsempra
Expellarmus
Petrificus Totalus
Accio
Bombarada
Imperio
Stupify
Depending on his morals
Avada Kedavra
Crucio
Fiendfyre
No bloodlust = Potter dies. With bloodlust, I think Punisher puts a bullet in Harry before he can cast a spell more often than not - assuming they start able to see each other.
6/10 Frank.
@rbt: Accio is water. What is he gonna use? Some watersprouts on Frank? LMAO
@rbt: Actually, Harry has literally no bullet dodging feats, from what I understand, most spells travel at a speed where they can actually be seen, Frank would straight up shoot him, or otherwise murder him. Or he could literally walk up to Harry, dodging his pathetically slow spells, and knife him.
Harry will win if his shield charm can stop bullets which it should be able to. After that there's countless ways he can take down, torture, play with, or do whatever he wants to do with frank.
@theultimatetitan: I'm not saying that Harry would dodge bullets Neo-style. He can't. But he has shown good enough reflexea to aim dodge. All he need to do is get out of line of fire before bullet is fired. That's how people avoid bullets in real life. And once Harry is behind any type of cover, he'll win rather easily.
@haoalchemist: Accio is water? Try again. Accio is summoning charm. Aguamenti is water conjuring spell. Same spell used by Fleur in second task of Triwizard Tournament.
@rbt: Yeah, but Frank is a little too much of a top tier marksman, he wouldn't really miss at anything less than 50 ft with a pistol, and if it's not in the OP I believe it's 20 ft. Harry's out of luck
@theultimatetitan: I am not saying that Frank would miss. I'm saying that Harry would move out of way just before the bullet is fired. The bullet would still go where is it supposed do, only Harry won't be there. There are many ways for Harry to block/avoid a bullet. Simply move out of line of fire, apparation, or a shield charm. Protego should be able to block a few bullets. It has easily blocked waterfalls and broken freefalls.
Even if Frank does get a bullet in Harry, he won't go down. We're talking about a guy who was cruciated by one of the most powerful wizard and got up to face him.
I feel like that picture is actually an accurate representation of how the fight would go down. The fight person to pull off one good shot would win.
However, Frank has some distince advantages in that area.
1) Frank has sufficient speed and reflexes to keep pace with other Marverl street levelers and even tag Spider-Man sometimes. Harry has the speed and reflexes of a teenager who gets in fights sort of often.
2) Harry doesn't tend to use lethal spells. Frank has the potential to tank a spell or two before going down. Harry will absolutely not be able to tank more than one bullet.
3) Spells can be dodged sometimes. Not easily, but they can. Frank, like I said, has very impressive speed and agility feats for a human. To say he might dodge an initial spell or two isn't an unrealistic idea. Harry, on the other hand, can't dodge bullets.
tl;dr Frank has a better chance of dodging or tanking a shot than Harry does, and bullets are basically an instant Avada Kedavra.
@rbt: I'm saying that Frank can put a bullet in Potter's brain before Potter can react, as he's never actually had someone point a gun at him in his life, and Punisher isn't exactly slow on the draw. A protection spell is laughable, as bullets move not only faster than sound, but faster than thought as well, so even if they realized that the other was a threat at the same time, I'm willing to bet that Frank could waste Harry before Harry could do something about it. I'm also willing to bet someone like Frank, who's been in hundreds if not thousands of situations where he's needed to react quickly, is faster on the draw than a mildly athletic young adult. Harry doesn't even use the killing curse, has never fiendfyre, only used Crucio on those who threatened/killed his friends, has never used immobulus, and only used sectumspempra against Malfoy, then was horrified at the results. He's never even used most of these spells in the manner you're suggesting.
@theultimatetitan: So you think Harry won't use Killing Curse but are going with the assumption that Frank would put a bullet in head of a teen he bas no knowledge about? Frank is not Floyd.
Harry has dodged spells from Voldemort who has actually speedblitzed wizards. Harry does not have reflexes of a normal teen like you suggest. He has been in mortal danger before and has managed to keep his cool. He matched Riddle's speed who is very quick with draw.
First, Frank won't just decide to shoot Harry is brain. Just like Harry won't use Killing Curse and Cruiatus on Frank(that's why I mentioned these spells under "depending on morals"). Harry, however would have no problem using spells like Expellarmus or Immobulus, which qpuld effectively end the battle.
Frank would get a couple of wins, but, unless bloodlusted, he looses 8 out of 10 times.
@mrg4breil: I love both equally but The Punisher would f**k!!! Potter up
Depends on where they start and how much distance between them.
I think both could one shot eachother.
@rbt: No, I don't think Harry will go straight to the killing curse, as he's never used it successfully, ever. There was actually a big deal about how Harry regularly uses Expellliarmus as to any other spell. In combat he has never actually killed anyone with his own spell.
Punisher on the other hand literally kills people every day, and because this is a battle, we presume that the combatants are here to fight and know that they must fight their opponent, in which case Punisher shoots him multiple times with an SMG. Harry is not being underrated here, he just has absolutely no feats that translate into what is basically a Mexican standoff against a seasoned killer.
Frank puts a bullet in Harry's head.
I got an expirament for ya
Try to say any of Harry's spells as fast as you can.
Now squeeze your hand. Which one was faster? Hold on now I shall read your mind through your internet....
... You were able to squeeze faster.
Guess that settles punisher pulling a trigger faster than harry doing anything.
Punisher 10/10
@vengefulshot: name one spell that just happens no flick of the wrist no words no anything he always has to do something to make something happen especially his actually effective stuff
@vengefulshot: name one spell that just happens no flick of the wrist no words no anything he always has to do something to make something happen especially his actually effective stuff
High tier wizards can spam Avada Kedavra non-verbally like nothing. It's just that Harry isn't a high tier wizard. And in order to shoot, you also need a flick of your wrist lol
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