Harry Dresden vs Volturi

#1 Edited by slacker the hacker (7615 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

Dresden has no prep and has all the powers he has or has had throughout the series. Harry is armed with his standard gear.

Cullens have info that they are facing a powerful magic user.

Battle takes place in the streets of Chicago (12:00 PM)

Neither have any large amount of knowledge on each other.

Win by death

No BFR

VS

#2 Posted by Xanni15 (5923 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

I know nothing of Dresden.

#3 Posted by Floopay (5595 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

Dresden with prep against supernatural beings.....10 minutes should be enough to lay a trap if he has standard gear.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#4 Posted by slacker the hacker (7615 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Xanni15 said:

I know nothing of Dresden.

Harry is a wizard considered one of the best when it comes to raw magical power. He is also the most powerful wizard in his age group and wizards in the Dresdenverse live for hundreds of years Harry is only around 35 or so. Of course being a powerful wizard uses attacks such as fire balls, fire blast, ice attacks, wind spells these spells have been powerful enough to burn through vampires, launch humans and creatures a like through the air. Harry's weaponry includes a blasting rod, casting staff, pistol, rings (he uses the rings to charge energy through if he ever needs it) and the shield bracelet. When Harry uses the shield bracelet it has been powerful enough to deflect magical attacks and machine gunfire. Harry also has his enchanted duster which has been able to take sub machine gun fire. Harry has the shadow of a Fallen angel named Lash in his head she has been around since creation she gives Harry information of ancient spells. Lash also taught Harry how to use Hellfire yeah fire from hell lol. Harry also has Soulfire he can only use it so much before he has to stop but basically it's heavens version of Hellfire it's like shooting pieces of you're flaming soul at someone it was enough to burn up the Fallen angels pretty bad.

The Mantle of Winter

Harry is also the Winter Knight. It's basically the hired gun of Fairy Courts. Since he is the Winter Knight it means Harry is being powered by the Queen of Air and Darkness Mab. These powers give Harry the powers to control the an entire season he can call upon the magical powers of The Winter Court and manipulate winter elements. This also means Harry drawing power from a godlike being giving him great power. This boost also makes him stronger in the physical terms. These powers can also combined with his wizard skills. He could also in theory call upon allies up from Winter like Fae soldiers and such.

Notable Feats

Blasted a powerful werewolf through about 7 to 10 walls (This was when Harry was still at his weakest)

Burned 11 vampires to a crisp (He was very angry when he did this)

Went 1 on 1 with Skinwalker but he got beaten down but he survived (In the Dresdenverse Skinwalkers are semi divine beings who can clear entire rooms of supernatural enemies)

Kicked a vampire through a wall (He had The Winter Mantle)

Fought through an army of ancient bloodlusted vampires (Harry just tore through them using his Winter powers and fire powers together)

Held his own against one of the most powerful wizards on the planet for a few minutes

Ressurcted a T Rex

I can name more.

#5 Posted by Strider92 (11207 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

Dresden with prep against Vampires? Vamps get decked!

#6 Posted by slacker the hacker (7615 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

Dresden with prep against supernatural beings.....10 minutes should be enough to lay a trap if he has standard gear.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@Strider92 said:

Dresden with prep against Vampires? Vamps get decked!

I have decided to take out the prep. How does Dresden do now?

Also three cheers for Cold Days which will be out soon.

#7 Posted by Xanni15 (5923 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

Dresden with prep against Vampires? Vamps get decked!

Yeah, these are no normal vampires.

#8 Edited by slacker the hacker (7615 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Xanni15 said:

@Strider92 said:

Dresden with prep against Vampires? Vamps get decked!

Yeah, these are no normal vampires.

Did you read the info I gave you? Harry has fought many ancient bloodsuckers with more then enough magical power.

#9 Posted by Xanni15 (5923 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@slacker the hacker said:

@Xanni15 said:

@Strider92 said:

Dresden with prep against Vampires? Vamps get decked!

Yeah, these are no normal vampires.

Did you read the info I gave you? Harry has fought many ancient bloodsuckers with more then enough magical power.

Yep.

How fast is he/his reaction? When he burned those vampire, what was the context? How do you kill him?

#10 Edited by slacker the hacker (7615 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Xanni15 said:

@slacker the hacker said:

@Xanni15 said:

@Strider92 said:

Dresden with prep against Vampires? Vamps get decked!

Yeah, these are no normal vampires.

Did you read the info I gave you? Harry has fought many ancient bloodsuckers with more then enough magical power.

Yep.

How fast is he/his reaction? When he burned those vampire, what was the context? How do you kill him?

He is quick enough to react to speeding vampires which in the Dresdeverse have moved faster then the human eye. He has also aimed blocked firearms. His speed and reaction have upgraded due to the Winter Mantle. He was able to outrun a half vampire and a Supernatural creature called the Ick. Harry normally kills vampires by burning them into a crisp with his many different fires. Harry can be killed basically the same way any human can but he is far more durable then most.

#11 Posted by Xanni15 (5923 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@slacker the hacker said:

@Xanni15 said:

@slacker the hacker said:

@Xanni15 said:

@Strider92 said:

Dresden with prep against Vampires? Vamps get decked!

Yeah, these are no normal vampires.

Did you read the info I gave you? Harry has fought many ancient bloodsuckers with more then enough magical power.

Yep.

How fast is he/his reaction? When he burned those vampire, what was the context? How do you kill him?

He is quick enough to react to speeding vampires which in the Dresdeverse have moved faster then the human eye. He has also aimed blocked firearms. His speed and reaction have upgraded due to the Winter Mantle. He was able to outrun a half vampire and a Supernatural creature called the Ick. Harry normally kills vampires by burning them into a crisp with his many different fires. Harry can be killed basically the same way any human can but he is far more durable then most.

Thanks for so much info. :]

Well, the Twilight vamps are incredibly fast, much faster than the human eye as well.

At the risk of selling Harry short, I don't think based off the feats listed here that he would be able to defeat the Volturi. Their powers are ridiculous, and they are always active so as soon as Harry comes into view (unless he has shields up or something) then both Jane and Alec might incapacitate him.

#12 Posted by slacker the hacker (7615 posts) - 6 months, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Xanni15 said:

@slacker the hacker said:

@Xanni15 said:

@slacker the hacker said:

@Xanni15 said:

@Strider92 said:

Dresden with prep against Vampires? Vamps get decked!

Yeah, these are no normal vampires.

Did you read the info I gave you? Harry has fought many ancient bloodsuckers with more then enough magical power.

Yep.

How fast is he/his reaction? When he burned those vampire, what was the context? How do you kill him?

He is quick enough to react to speeding vampires which in the Dresdeverse have moved faster then the human eye. He has also aimed blocked firearms. His speed and reaction have upgraded due to the Winter Mantle. He was able to outrun a half vampire and a Supernatural creature called the Ick. Harry normally kills vampires by burning them into a crisp with his many different fires. Harry can be killed basically the same way any human can but he is far more durable then most.

Thanks for so much info. :]

Well, the Twilight vamps are incredibly fast, much faster than the human eye as well.

At the risk of selling Harry short, I don't think based off the feats listed here that he would be able to defeat the Volturi. Their powers are ridiculous, and they are always active so as soon as Harry comes into view (unless he has shields up or something) then both Jane and Alec might incapacitate him.

He does have shields. His shield bracelet has taken magical attacks, vampires and machine gun fire. Harry also defeated The Duchess Arianna a black magic using vampire. Considered one of the best. Harry's special attacks like Soulfire which is a firey blast used by angels to especially effective on evil. He also can use Hellfire which is very hot to the point it has effect on high level supernatural enemies

#13 Posted by Xanni15 (5923 posts) - 6 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@slacker the hacker said:

@Xanni15 said:

@slacker the hacker said:

@Xanni15 said:

@slacker the hacker said:

@Xanni15 said:

@Strider92 said:

Dresden with prep against Vampires? Vamps get decked!

Yeah, these are no normal vampires.

Did you read the info I gave you? Harry has fought many ancient bloodsuckers with more then enough magical power.

Yep.

How fast is he/his reaction? When he burned those vampire, what was the context? How do you kill him?

He is quick enough to react to speeding vampires which in the Dresdeverse have moved faster then the human eye. He has also aimed blocked firearms. His speed and reaction have upgraded due to the Winter Mantle. He was able to outrun a half vampire and a Supernatural creature called the Ick. Harry normally kills vampires by burning them into a crisp with his many different fires. Harry can be killed basically the same way any human can but he is far more durable then most.

Thanks for so much info. :]

Well, the Twilight vamps are incredibly fast, much faster than the human eye as well.

At the risk of selling Harry short, I don't think based off the feats listed here that he would be able to defeat the Volturi. Their powers are ridiculous, and they are always active so as soon as Harry comes into view (unless he has shields up or something) then both Jane and Alec might incapacitate him.

He does have shields. His shield bracelet has taken magical attacks, vampires and machine gun fire. Harry also defeated The Duchess Arianna a black magic using vampire. Considered one of the best. Harry's special attacks like Soulfire which is a firey blast used by angels to especially effective on evil. He also can use Hellfire which is very hot to the point it has effect on high level supernatural enemies

I don't know if the Volutir's abilities would classify as magical, if fact I would say they don't.

Aro's ability would allow him to know every single thing Harry knows and has ever known so that's a massive tactical advantage.

Alec's ability allows him to cut off all of Harry's senses, which would effectively make him an easy target.

And Jane could also get inside Harry's mind, causing him a lot of pain via illusions. Jane's powers would probably be stopped by Harry but she as well as the other Volturi members are skilled.

#14 Posted by slacker the hacker (7615 posts) - 6 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

Harry has a high level of mind resistance. To the point he was able to create mental blocks against a hundred year old witch who can switch bodies. At the time she a lot more powerful then him in terms of mind magic. Harry was able to counteract her attacks by thinking of walls in his head. And if that isn't enough Lash is also in his head. Lash is a fallen angel who has been around since creation. She can give Harry knowledge of ancient spells, tactics and can basically work as defense for his mind.It doesn't matter if the attacks are magical or not Harry's shields can block a falling elevator shaft. Harry also has fought people that can cast illusions. I forget who I'll go look through the books.

#15 Posted by Xanni15 (5923 posts) - 6 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@slacker the hacker:

All right. I'll post a reply tomorrow.

#16 Posted by Xanni15 (5923 posts) - 6 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@slacker the hacker said:

Harry has a high level of mind resistance. To the point he was able to create mental blocks against a hundred year old witch who can switch bodies. At the time she a lot more powerful then him in terms of mind magic. Harry was able to counteract her attacks by thinking of walls in his head. And if that isn't enough Lash is also in his head. Lash is a fallen angel who has been around since creation. She can give Harry knowledge of ancient spells, tactics and can basically work as defense for his mind.It doesn't matter if the attacks are magical or not Harry's shields can block a falling elevator shaft. Harry also has fought people that can cast illusions. I forget who I'll go look through the books.

Well, Harry's facing more than one person here so I would argue that the combined power of the Volturi might be enough overpower or distract him enough, plus their physical strength and speed. Can Harry use/control magic while fighting multiple opponents who are very fast and strong?

#17 Posted by slacker the hacker (7615 posts) - 6 months, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@Xanni15 said:

@slacker the hacker said:

Harry has a high level of mind resistance. To the point he was able to create mental blocks against a hundred year old witch who can switch bodies. At the time she a lot more powerful then him in terms of mind magic. Harry was able to counteract her attacks by thinking of walls in his head. And if that isn't enough Lash is also in his head. Lash is a fallen angel who has been around since creation. She can give Harry knowledge of ancient spells, tactics and can basically work as defense for his mind.It doesn't matter if the attacks are magical or not Harry's shields can block a falling elevator shaft. Harry also has fought people that can cast illusions. I forget who I'll go look through the books.

Well, Harry's facing more than one person here so I would argue that the combined power of the Volturi might be enough overpower or distract him enough, plus their physical strength and speed. Can Harry use/control magic while fighting multiple opponents who are very fast and strong?

Harry hasn't ever demonstrated straight up mind control. But he a lot of exp fighting more then one enemy at time including multiple Ghouls, Ancient armyof vampires and Multiple fairy forces. In a rage he burnt 11 vampires to ash that was him at his weakest and he also once sent an attack enough to knock back a group of fairy soldiers and sent the previous Winter Knight flying.

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