Harry Dresden vs Kharn The Betrayer (READ OP)

ROUND 1

Kharn has somehow been sent into Modern day Chicago he begins ripping the place apart when Harry Dresden steps out of his office to try and stop the raging warrior.

Neither have any knowledge of each other except what they can make out of the others gear and weapons

Both have standard gear

Dresden doesn't have Hellfire or Winter Knight powers or Lash but he can use Soulfire

Kharn doesn't have Gorechild

Start 1 block away from each other

BFR allowed

ROUND 2

Queen Mab sends her Knight Harry Dresden to take care of red armored monster who has just invaded Winter Court

Kharn doesn't have his Magic negation blessings but is armed to the teeth with his best weaponry

Dresden is aware Kharn has inhuman technology and has a powerful weapon called Gorechild and is aware of what it does.

Dresden in this encounter is the Winter Knight, Has Soulfire and Hellfire,and has Lash in his head and his Fae armor from his God mother

Speed is equalized in this encounter

Harry may call upon Fae allies if he needs so

BFR not allowed

Start 100ft away from each other

ROUND 3

Both Kharn and Dresden have challenged each other to a duel

1 Week of prep for both

Dresden does not know Kharn's name

Both are willing to do anything to come out on top

Fight takes place in the Roman arena

Start on opposite ends of the Arena

No BFR

Dresden's presence cannot send Kharn's weaponry on the fritz.

VS

So who wins Champion of Winter or Champion of Khorne

bump

@Strider92 said:

@slacker the hacker: The problem with Kharn is he's immune to all forms of magic attack. I don't know much about Dresden but from what i've read a lot of his attacks are magic based. So unless he has any way of fighting Kharn without his magic Kharn will kill him. So with that in mind:

Round 1: Kharn.

Round 2: Probably Dresden although i'm not sure.

Round 3: Probably Kharn magic negation takes away a lot of Dresden's options.

Harry is a wizard considered one of the best when it comes to raw magical power. He is also the most powerful wizard in his age group and wizards in the Dresdenverse live for hundreds of years Harry is only around 35 or so. Of course being a powerful wizard uses attacks such as fire balls, fire blast, ice attacks, wind spells these spells have been powerful enough to burn through vampires, launch humans and creatures a like through the air. Harry's weaponry includes a blasting rod, casting staff, pistol, rings (he uses the rings to charge energy through if he ever needs it) and the shield bracelet. When Harry uses the shield bracelet it has been powerful enough to deflect magical attacks and machine gunfire. Harry also has the armor from his Godmother it can repel vampire attacks with almost no damage and can take bullet fire. Harry has the shadow of a Fallen angel named Lash in his head she has been around since creation she gives Harry information of ancient spells. Lash also taught Harry how to use Hellfire yeah fire from hell lol. Harry also has Soulfire he can only use it so much before he has to stop but basically it's heavens version of Hellfire it's like shooting pieces of you're flaming soul at someone it was enough to burn up the Fallen angels pretty bad.

The Mantle of Winter

Harry is also the Winter Knight. It's basically the hired gun of Fairy Courts. Since he is the Winter Knight it means Harry is being powered by the Queen of Air and Darkness Mab. These powers give Harry the powers to control the an entire season he can call upon the magical powers of The Winter Court and manipulate winter elements. This also means Harry drawing power from a godlike being giving him great power. This boost also makes him stronger in the physical terms. These powers can also combined with his wizard skills. He could also in theory call upon allies up from Winter like Fae soldiers and such.

Regarding ROUND 3

If Harry was willing to do anything to win he knows the spell called the Dark Hallow it is basically a massive soul sucking void that absorbs all souls and spirits within it. It would turn Harry into a being on par with Odin and The Queen of Winter Court Mab

He could also take up Lash's coin then he would become completely bonded with the true Fallen Angel Lasciel it would give him complete intellect from creation and make him one with a being who's cunning and knowledge has been around for ages. Not to mention his all physcial stats would increase greatly

Notable Feats

Blasted a powerful werewolf through about 7 to 10 walls (This was when Harry was still at his weakest)

Burned 11 vampires to a crisp (He was very angry when he did this)

Went 1 on 1 with Skinwalker but he got beaten down but he survived (In the Dresdenverse Skinwalkers are semi divine beings who can clear entire rooms of supernatural enemies)

Kicked a vampire through a wall (He had The Winter Mantle)

Fought through an army of ancient bloodlusted vampires (Harry just tore through them using his Winter powers and fire powers together)

Held his own against one of the most powerful wizards on the planet for a few minutes

Ressurcted a T Rex

I can name more but I'll stop for now

@slacker the hacker:

I agree with Strider after reading that.

Kharn is minmum 10 Tonner and has Power Armour imbued with Chaos Energy that can withstand Anti Tank Attacks. He also has a Plasma Pistol that burns as hot as 27,000 degrees. He is also a Warrior of the hieghest Caliber (10,000 years) killing just under 5000 Slannesh Warriors and Space Marines in one battle. His Blessings of the Blood God Protect him from Magic and Psykers. Basicaly negating there power. Then he has Gorechild. A Power Weopon that cuts on the molecular level and devours souls when enticed enough.

I just think hes too much unless BFRed.

@CadenceV2 said:

@slacker the hacker:

I agree with Strider after reading that.

Kharn is minmum 10 Tonner and has Power Armour imbued with Chaos Energy that can withstand Anti Tank Attacks. He also has a Plasma Pistol that burns as hot as 27,000 degrees. He is also a Warrior of the hieghest Caliber (10,000 years) killing just under 5000 Slannesh Warriors and Space Marines in one battle. His Blessings of the Blood God Protect him from Magic and Psykers. Basicaly negating there power. Then he has Gorechild. A Power Weopon that cuts on the molecular level and devours souls when enticed enough.

I just think hes too much unless BFRed.

In all 3 rounds? or just the first

Because I can make a good case for round 2 and 3 for Dresden if your up for a debate

@slacker the hacker: I was going to say Round 1 Kharn.

Round 2 to Dresden wins prety handily cause Kharns main protection from Magic is gone. He could and should Tank some hits but not too many.

Round 3 I wil debate ya on :). Im not sure what Dresden can do with Magic Negated on any attack targeting Kharn. Also what does Name have to do with it? I know 40K daemons Names hold power over them but Kharn is still a Mortal whos soul belongs to Khorn.

@CadenceV2 said:

@slacker the hacker: I was going to say Round 1 Kharn.

Round 2 to Dresden wins prety handily cause Kharns main protection from Magic is gone. He could and should Tank some hits but not too many.

Round 3 I wil debate ya on :). Im not sure what Dresden can do with Magic Negated on any attack targeting Kharn. Also what does Name have to do with it? I know 40K daemons Names hold power over them but Kharn is still a Mortal whos soul belongs to Khorn.

In the Dresdenverse names carry power if a wizard knows your name he can pretty much bind your soul, control your mind, send you to places and basically control you how they see fit.

Anyway as I said in round 3 Dresden would become much more then a wizard the DarkHallow spell is necromantic rite that makes the wielder become godlike. It would make him equal to that of Odin and The Faiere Queens who can kill wizards like Dresden using nothing but the sheer force of their will. Basically Dresden could crush Kharn using his will power.

Even though Kharn can negate magic could negate Hellfire and Soulfire. If Dresden completely took up the coin he wold likely be able to generate Hellfire a lot faster would Kharn be immune to Hellfire seeing at it is a conjured blast from hell and not a normal type of magic. As for Soulfire wouldn't it mess Kharn up seeing as he belongs to a Daemon type being and Soulfire is an Angelic force.

@slacker the hacker: But thats the thing about 40K. There is no heaven and Hell. Its the same place. Khorn is a Chaos God. Daemons are mere pieces of Power given form and thought. That is a Daemon. He has Good sides (Hard to Imagin) but because of the state of the Universe and 40K Galaxy in paticular hes perceived very evil and destructive.

The Warp is where all souls go when they die (or before the turmoil reborn) unitl the Old Ones created many Psychic races and access the Warp for there own means. In the end this lead to the Emotions (The Warp is a reflection in a way to the real Universe) affecting the warp and negative emotions (Galaxy at war) led to birth of Chaos Gods.

Theres really no good and evil beings. There Degrees of Evil and Good.

Anyway Khorn owns Kharns soul already so Naming shouldnt work.

As for his power of Blessings its not like a shield that can be depleted or over come. He is simply like Air is to Fist. You cant harm Air anymore than Magic/Psychics can harm Kharn.

So if Dresden has the Strength (5 tons perferbly), Speed (3 times faster than bullets), and a Physical, Energy, or Magic Armour (Yes Blessing does not cancel your magic on you or around you just Kharn himself) to deflect 27,000 Plasma, Grenades, and Molecule Cutting Soul Devouring Gorechild.... then ya he has a Chance.

@Strider92 said:

@CadenceV2 said:

Magic Armour (Yes Blessing does not cancel your magic on you or around you just Kharn himself)

Actually force weapons count as normal close combat weapons when you attack Kharn so there's a chance it does.

Thats out ofcontext tho. Force weapons are normal Weapons but the Psy Power using it makes it cut thru anything or block superior weapons. Hitting Kharn with it is targetting him thus shut down. Kharn hitting a Opponet with Mark of Tzeentch and Sorcerous Shield that apllies to it does not.

@CadenceV2 said:

@slacker the hacker: But thats the thing about 40K. There is no heaven and Hell. Its the same place. Khorn is a Chaos God. Daemons are mere pieces of Power given form and thought. That is a Daemon. He has Good sides (Hard to Imagin) but because of the state of the Universe and 40K Galaxy in paticular hes perceived very evil and destructive.

The Warp is where all souls go when they die (or before the turmoil reborn) unitl the Old Ones created many Psychic races and access the Warp for there own means. In the end this lead to the Emotions (The Warp is a reflection in a way to the real Universe) affecting the warp and negative emotions (Galaxy at war) led to birth of Chaos Gods.

Theres really no good and evil beings. There Degrees of Evil and Good.

Anyway Khorn owns Kharns soul already so Naming shouldnt work.

As for his power of Blessings its not like a shield that can be depleted or over come. He is simply like Air is to Fist. You cant harm Air anymore than Magic/Psychics can harm Kharn.

So if Dresden has the Strength (5 tons perferbly), Speed (3 times faster than bullets), and a Physical, Energy, or Magic Armour (Yes Blessing does not cancel your magic on you or around you just Kharn himself) to deflect 27,000 Plasma, Grenades, and Molecule Cutting Soul Devouring Gorechild.... then ya he has a Chance.

Dresden has aimed blocked a couple of bullets and Vampires before. DarkHallow can also absorb souls when it is summoned it literally can clear an entire cities of souls but I believe that only works when it is first brought up. Soulfire still should have some kind of effect on Kharn it's not a magical attack it's a weapon that the Angels in the Dresdenverse us for combat. Not to mention Dresden would still have his Winter Mantle which would allow him to draw power from The Fairy Queen Mab could Fae magics mostly having to do with Ice/Winter manipulation effect Kharn at all. With the powers of DarkHallow/Winter Knight Mantle/Host of the Fallen Angel Lasciel it would give Dresden a grand up grade in speed with the powers of Winter alone he was able to out run a half vampire and being host to a fallen angel would only give him more boost in raw power and speed.

Since this round is a prep related battle Dresden could always summon the Erlking and cause him to start the Wild Hunt but that may be bad for both Kharn and Dresden.

Plus if Kharn kills Dresden the Death Curse would likely obliterate Kharn

@slacker the hacker: I think The winter Ice might work to a degree as affecting Kharn. The Power Armour would protect from Cold of space and Vacume of Space. Ontop of that the Space Marine Biology can survive Space without Armour for a time. The soul Fire would be Spirtual/Magical but not Science base correct. Kharn Should negate that like a Force Weapon.

Problem here im seeing is Kharn can physicly take hits and dish out near one shot KOs.

Also with prep Kharn should be able to summon Khornate Daemons. maybe open a Warp Rift. Maybe.

@CadenceV2 said:

@slacker the hacker: I think The winter Ice might work to a degree as affecting Kharn. The Power Armour would protect from Cold of space and Vacume of Space. Ontop of that the Space Marine Biology can survive Space without Armour for a time. The soul Fire would be Spirtual/Magical but not Science base correct. Kharn Should negate that like a Force Weapon.

Problem here im seeing is Kharn can physicly take hits and dish out near one shot KOs.

Also with prep Kharn should be able to summon Khornate Daemons. maybe open a Warp Rift. Maybe.

Dresden can also summon allies like soldiers of Fae or his friends.

Soulfire isn't science based but as far as I know Dresden is the only wizard in the world who has it. It's not based in earthly magic or fairy magic it's an angelic blast fire using pieces of your soul I think it effects you based on evil you are but I could be wrong about that though I say it because it seems to work the best against his most evil foes like the Skinwalker. Plus Soulfire combined with Winter manipulation should make a deadly combo.

Plus Kharn has no way around the Death Curse at least to my knowledge.

@slacker the hacker: Well there was this one time (and only time in 10,000 years) he flat out died ontop a mound of the Emeprors best warriors during the Siege of Terra. The World Eaters for reasons they cant explain at the time felt the need to recover the body. Then Kharn had life breath back into him from Khorn as he would never let his favorite champion die.

That was the only case as he never died since then.

@CadenceV2 said:

@slacker the hacker: Well there was this one time (and only time in 10,000 years) he flat out died ontop a mound of the Emeprors best warriors during the Siege of Terra. The World Eaters for reasons they cant explain at the time felt the need to recover the body. Then Kharn had life breath back into him from Khorn as he would never let his favorite champion die.

That was the only case as he never died since then.

Death Curse is a spell that a wizard can trigger when they die. The more powerful the Wizard the stronger it is. It makes all the energy of the wizard exploded Harry claimed his could level an Island which at the time had vampires, skinwalker, other wizards and zombie like creatures not to mention the island in general.

@slacker the hacker: well i dont think Kharn can come back with no body.....

Might be a Double KO.

@CadenceV2 said:

@slacker the hacker: well i dont think Kharn can come back with no body.....

Might be a Double KO.

I see I guess that ends this debate

Round 1 Kharn.

Round 2 Dresden.

Round 3 Tie.

@CadenceV2 said:

Round 1 Kharn.

Round 2 Dresden.

Round 3 Tie.

I agree