Hannibal Lecter vs Dexter Morgan - Battles

#1 Edited by D3athstroke (3656 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

First Round:

1)Dexter is Hunting Lecter

2)Lecter Knows that he is hunted but don't knows by who

3)two weeks of prep to Dexter

4)3 days of prep to Lecter

Second Round:

1)Hanibal is Hunting Dexter

2)Dexter knows that he is hunted by Hannibal

3)Two Weeks of prep to Lecter

4)4 Days Of Prep to Dexter

Third Round:

1)They Are hunting each other

2)Two weeks of prep for both

#2 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Dexter isn't half as smart as Hannibal, who's been killing undetected since he was a teenager.

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#3 Posted by Killemall (13495 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@D3athstroke: Hannibal take every round man, afterall hannibal is like one of the coolest cannibal in the history of cannibal, he even got a noble cannibal prize back in his age (maybe i am exaggerating too much but hey no one will every know)

Cant come up with a good logic but hannibal is shown to be smarter, pretty bad arse and despite being pretty old character is quite awesome!! hannibal has dexter bbq for lunch :)

#4 Posted by Illuminatus (9303 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Dexter isn't half as smart as Hannibal, who's been killing undetected since he was a teenager.

Dexter made his first kill when he was a teenager aswell, if I recall correctly.

#5 Posted by Illuminatus (9303 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@D3athstroke: Hannibal take every round man, afterall hannibal is like one of the coolest cannibal in the history of cannibal, he even got a noble cannibal prize back in his age (maybe i am exaggerating too much but hey no one will every know) Cant come up with a good logic but hannibal is shown to be smarter, pretty bad arse and despite being pretty old character is quite awesome!! hannibal has dexter bbq for lunch :)

What "feats" make Hannibal "smarter" than Dexter?

#6 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

@CitizenBane said:
Dexter isn't half as smart as Hannibal, who's been killing undetected since he was a teenager.
Dexter made his first kill when he was a teenager aswell, if I recall correctly.

Not the same thing. Hannibal was killing and eating fully grown men when Dexter was bludgeoning the neighbour's dog to death. The first person Dexter killed was a middle aged nurse who couldn't really defend herself. The first person Lecter killed was a Nazi soldier with plenty of combat experience who could easily defend himself.

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#7 Posted by Illuminatus (9303 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Illuminatus said:
@CitizenBane said:
Dexter isn't half as smart as Hannibal, who's been killing undetected since he was a teenager.
Dexter made his first kill when he was a teenager aswell, if I recall correctly.
Not the same thing. Hannibal was killing and eating fully grown men when Dexter was bludgeoning the neighbour's dog to death. The first person Dexter killed was a middle aged nurse who couldn't really defend herself. The first person Lecter killed was a Nazi soldier with plenty of combat experience who could easily defend himself.

And after that, Hannibal killed many helpless people, even having to seduce one just to get close enough..

Dexter is quick and efficient these days. He's been stalked by other killers before, even one he technically "helped create". Some cannibal who kills purely on impulse won't be trouble for Mr. Morgan.

#8 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

@CitizenBane said:
@Illuminatus said:
@CitizenBane said:
Dexter isn't half as smart as Hannibal, who's been killing undetected since he was a teenager.
Dexter made his first kill when he was a teenager aswell, if I recall correctly.
Not the same thing. Hannibal was killing and eating fully grown men when Dexter was bludgeoning the neighbour's dog to death. The first person Dexter killed was a middle aged nurse who couldn't really defend herself. The first person Lecter killed was a Nazi soldier with plenty of combat experience who could easily defend himself.
And after that, Hannibal killed many helpless people, even having to seduce one just to get close enough.. Dexter is quick and efficient these days. He's been stalked by other killers before, even one he technically "helped create". Some cannibal who kills purely on impulse won't be trouble for Mr. Morgan.

Hannibal operates on impulse? LMAO. He doesn't just run around killing people when he's hungry, he picks and chooses at his own leisure. If you've offended him or are rude to him in anyway, you're on the menu. He once ate a concert violinist because the man was out of tune and was ruining the rest of the performance for him. A psychopath with multiple personalities insulted Starling, Lecter talked to him for a few minutes and the man commited suicide by swallowing his own tongue and choking on the blood. Hannibal could pretty much talk Dexter to death.

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#9 Posted by Illuminatus (9303 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Talk Dexter to death? Dexter has had chats with killers before, including his own brother. Nobody is going to talk him to death, lol.

How many people has Hannibal put down by the way?

#10 Edited by Killemall (13495 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: The whole Silence of the Lamb movie... if hannibal wasnt super smart why take help from a guy who is behind bars in solving a serial murder :)

#11 Posted by Illuminatus (9303 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Illuminatus: The whole Silence of the Lamb movie... if hannibal wasnt super smart why takes help from a guy who is behind bars in solving a serial murder :)

He assisted in the capture of one psycho. Dexter finds psychos on the daily, and then executes them himself.

#12 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: Dexter's never faced a killer as smart as Hannibal, not even his brother or Jordan Chase. As for how many people he's killed, no one knows because so much of his past is a mystery. But he's been doing it for three decades. Dexter himself said he's killed something like 65-70 people, so Lecter's kill count is probably higher.

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#13 Posted by Illuminatus (9303 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Illuminatus: Dexter's never faced a killer as smart as Hannibal, not even his brother or Jordan Chase. As for how many people he's killed, no one knows because so much of his past is a mystery. But he's been doing it for three decades. Dexter himself said he's killed something like 65-70 people, so Lecter's kill count is probably higher.

By now, it has to be around 80, because it's been awhile since he's actually reflected upon anyone's death except for Trinity and Rita, and I'm starting to think the writers need to confirm his exact kill count for us, including kills we never saw.

Dexter started when he was a teenager/young adult, and is now around 40, if not exactly that age. So Hannibal may have a decade or so of experience on top of him, but Dexter's job gives him a big advantage too.

#14 Posted by Killemall (13495 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: Come on man its not just one. He help capture "the tooth fairy" (i corny name for serial killer i know but well he was ment to be an awesome serial killer) and then "Buffalo Bill" (which is the silence of the lamb thing). come on man look at it this way Hannibal Lecter was the orginal idea, was created in 1981, the classic the man. Dexter on the other hand made his debute in 2004 and his personality somewhat resembles Hannibal Lecter :) if anything he's a copy of hannibal lecter man. And orginals are better than copies - :)

#15 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: You asked for feats that make Lecter smarter. He entered medical school in Paris when he was 16, and had a doctorate in criminal psychology and a medical degree from Hopkins in his early 20's.

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#16 Posted by Illuminatus (9303 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Illuminatus: Come on man its not just one. He help capture "the tooth fairy" (i corny name for serial killer i know but well he was ment to be an awesome serial killer) and then "Buffalo Bill" (which is the silence of the lamb thing). come on man look at it this way Hannibal Lecter was the orginal idea, was created in 1981, the classic the man. Dexter on the other hand made his debute in 2004 and his personality somewhat resembles Hannibal Lecter :) if anything he's a copy of hannibal lecter man. And orginals are better than copies - :)

His personality really is different from Hannibal.

I don't recall Hannibal ever talking to a projection of his mind, seeking advice and carrying on long conversations with (technically) himself. Dexter wishes that he could feel, that he could be empathetic, but the closest he can ever come to it is his strange perception of "love" and "caring for others", and he strives for that feeling. He channels his urges into his twisted (yet often impeccable) sense of justice, but yet has shown that he must keep checks on these urges, or it will have disastrous effects.

In conclusion, maybe the idea of Dexter was created with small bits of Hannibal Lecter in mind, but he is a character all his own. He has more in common with The Punisher than Hannibal, in my opinion.

#17 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

@Killemall said:
@Illuminatus: Come on man its not just one. He help capture "the tooth fairy" (i corny name for serial killer i know but well he was ment to be an awesome serial killer) and then "Buffalo Bill" (which is the silence of the lamb thing). come on man look at it this way Hannibal Lecter was the orginal idea, was created in 1981, the classic the man. Dexter on the other hand made his debute in 2004 and his personality somewhat resembles Hannibal Lecter :) if anything he's a copy of hannibal lecter man. And orginals are better than copies - :)
His personality really is different from Hannibal. I don't recall Hannibal ever talking to a projection of his mind, seeking advice and carrying on long conversations with (technically) himself. Dexter wishes that he could feel, that he could be empathetic, but the closest he can ever come to it is his strange perception of "love" and "caring for others", and he strives for that feeling. He channels his urges into his twisted (yet often impeccable) sense of justice, but yet has shown that he must keep checks on these urges, or it will have disastrous effects. In conclusion, maybe the idea of Dexter was created with small bits of Hannibal Lecter in mind, but he is a character all his own. He has more in common with The Punisher than Hannibal, in my opinion.

Have you read "Hannibal"? He created, within his own mind, a fictional palace where each room stores memories of his life that he can view at leisure when he simulates complete calm and a particular mental state. His psyche is far more resilient than Dexter's. Dexter completely lost his shit when Rita was murdered. Hannibal was just a little boy when his sister was killed and eaten in front of him, and he was already plotting elaborate vengeance against everyone involved.

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#18 Posted by Loki9876 (2686 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

I love dexter (not love love) but I also like the hannibal movies (maybe I must read the books I not really like horror but hannibal is more

Phsylogical and I like that) anyway Hannibal takes I think all the rounds he is more experienced and isn't held back by morals

#19 Posted by Illuminatus (9303 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Illuminatus said:
@Killemall said:
@Illuminatus: Come on man its not just one. He help capture "the tooth fairy" (i corny name for serial killer i know but well he was ment to be an awesome serial killer) and then "Buffalo Bill" (which is the silence of the lamb thing). come on man look at it this way Hannibal Lecter was the orginal idea, was created in 1981, the classic the man. Dexter on the other hand made his debute in 2004 and his personality somewhat resembles Hannibal Lecter :) if anything he's a copy of hannibal lecter man. And orginals are better than copies - :)
His personality really is different from Hannibal. I don't recall Hannibal ever talking to a projection of his mind, seeking advice and carrying on long conversations with (technically) himself. Dexter wishes that he could feel, that he could be empathetic, but the closest he can ever come to it is his strange perception of "love" and "caring for others", and he strives for that feeling. He channels his urges into his twisted (yet often impeccable) sense of justice, but yet has shown that he must keep checks on these urges, or it will have disastrous effects. In conclusion, maybe the idea of Dexter was created with small bits of Hannibal Lecter in mind, but he is a character all his own. He has more in common with The Punisher than Hannibal, in my opinion.
Have you read "Hannibal"? He created, within his own mind, a fictional palace where each room stores memories of his life that he can view at leisure when he simulates complete calm and a particular mental state. His psyche is far more resilient than Dexter's. Dexter completely lost his shit when Rita was murdered. Hannibal was just a little boy when his sister was killed and eaten in front of him, and he was already plotting elaborate vengeance against everyone involved.

I haven't read the books, but I assumed this was going by show/movie versions only.

#20 Posted by Killemall (13495 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: Even then Hannibal movie came out first ;) besides hannibal has what like 4 or 5 movies. Dexter has a goddam series with dont know how many series ( i at times followed few episodes) so yeah he has more showing but Hannibal was the real deal :) he is like a more TV friendly copy of the actual Hannibal.

#21 Posted by Killemall (13495 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: do you know who copied that idea?? THE MENTALIST!! and that is from 1984 novel man.. :p

#22 Posted by Do I have to give a name? (971 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

1st round I'd say Dexter. He's very good at surprise grabs and Lector has fallen victim to them before.

2nd round I'd give to Lector. He's also very good at catching people off guard and wouldn't hesitate to take advantage of using Dexter's "fake life" to get him where he wants him.

3rd round Id give to Lector as well, for the reasons stated above, plus Dexter is more in the open. H2H I'd say Dexter is probably the better fighter, but Lector is physically stronger and I think he's probably better with bladed weapons, which he'd almost certainly have on his person.

#23 Posted by Fehafare (371 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Not only does Hanibal rhyme on Canibal, but he also is a f*cking badass Horror movies character who doesn't take some tool and goes on mindless killing rampage,
Hanibal wins all rounds.

#24 Posted by D3athstroke (3656 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

@Fehafare said:

Not only does Hanibal rhyme on Canibal, but he also is a f*cking badass Horror movies character who doesn't take some tool and goes on mindless killing rampage, Hanibal wins all rounds.

Lol Nice

#25 Posted by Rudyftw (987 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Illuminatus said:
@CitizenBane said:
Dexter isn't half as smart as Hannibal, who's been killing undetected since he was a teenager.
Dexter made his first kill when he was a teenager aswell, if I recall correctly.
Not the same thing. Hannibal was killing and eating fully grown men when Dexter was bludgeoning the neighbour's dog to death. The first person Dexter killed was a middle aged nurse who couldn't really defend herself. The first person Lecter killed was a Nazi soldier with plenty of combat experience who could easily defend himself.

Actually Dex's first victim was a rapist who bludgeoned hookers to death. DEX ALL THE WAY.

#26 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Rudyftw said:

@CitizenBane said:
@Illuminatus said:
@CitizenBane said:
Dexter isn't half as smart as Hannibal, who's been killing undetected since he was a teenager.
Dexter made his first kill when he was a teenager aswell, if I recall correctly.
Not the same thing. Hannibal was killing and eating fully grown men when Dexter was bludgeoning the neighbour's dog to death. The first person Dexter killed was a middle aged nurse who couldn't really defend herself. The first person Lecter killed was a Nazi soldier with plenty of combat experience who could easily defend himself.
Actually Dex's first victim was a rapist who bludgeoned hookers to death. DEX ALL THE WAY.

And Hannibal's first victim was a Nazi soldier who cooked and ate children and fed Hannibal pieces of his sister. Your point?

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#27 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38599 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Going with Hannibal for all rounds.

#28 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Illuminatus said:
@CitizenBane said:
Dexter isn't half as smart as Hannibal, who's been killing undetected since he was a teenager.
Dexter made his first kill when he was a teenager aswell, if I recall correctly.
Not the same thing. Hannibal was killing and eating fully grown men when Dexter was bludgeoning the neighbour's dog to death. The first person Dexter killed was a middle aged nurse who couldn't really defend herself. The first person Lecter killed was a Nazi soldier with plenty of combat experience who could easily defend himself.

Dexter killed animals when he was a kid and a young teen. He killed his first adult in college.

Who cares who his first kill was anyway? Dexter has advanced martial arts training (jujitsu if I recall correctly) as stated in season 1 and is precise with blades due to his skill and intimate knowledge of the human body. On top of that, he is clearly the stronger and faster of the two.

@Killemall said:

@Illuminatus: The whole Silence of the Lamb movie... if hannibal wasnt super smart why take help from a guy who is behind bars in solving a serial murder :)

That is not evidence of anything. Dexter solves crimes that no one else even knows about. Besides that, Dexter graduated top of his class in medicine but threw it away to be a blood spatter expert so he could more easily hone his craft and stay close to police.

#29 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@CitizenBane said:
@Illuminatus said:
@CitizenBane said:
Dexter isn't half as smart as Hannibal, who's been killing undetected since he was a teenager.
Dexter made his first kill when he was a teenager aswell, if I recall correctly.
Not the same thing. Hannibal was killing and eating fully grown men when Dexter was bludgeoning the neighbour's dog to death. The first person Dexter killed was a middle aged nurse who couldn't really defend herself. The first person Lecter killed was a Nazi soldier with plenty of combat experience who could easily defend himself.
Dexter killed animals when he was a kid and a young teen. He killed his first adult in college.
Who cares who his first kill was anyway? Dexter has advanced martial arts training (jujitsu if I recall correctly) as stated in season 1 and is precise with blades due to his skill and intimate knowledge of the human body. On top of that, he is clearly the stronger and faster of the two.

Exactly my point. At that age, Hannibal was killing fully grown men with military training. And Lecter has martial arts training as well. Not to mention the fact that he's driven people to kill themselves just by talking to them. And he was doing his medical degree by age 16, his knowledge of the human body and skill with a blade dwarfs Dexter's.

And Lecter became a FBI consultant for that exact reason.

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#30 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane:

Military training? Nazi military training was like any other training back in those times, almost non-existent. You can fire a rifle, crawl through some trenches with barb wire, you were a soldier.

Where is your proof of your claims of superiority? There is absolutely nothing to prove that he is a superior combatant. Dexter easily beat James Doakes, an Army Ranger in the elite regimental reconnaissance detachment. Obviously he had advance combat training and Dexter had him beat just after Doakes sucker punched him and again when Doakes found out that Dexter was the BBB and that was after Dexter was shot.

What was Lecter's combat training? Keep in mind, Dexter had been trained before his official training. He had been trained to submit humans almost his whole life.

#31 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@CitizenBane:
Military training? Nazi military training was like any other training back in those times, almost non-existent. You can fire a rifle, crawl through some trenches with barb wire, you were a soldier.
Where is your proof of your claims of superiority? There is absolutely nothing to prove that he is a superior combatant. Dexter easily beat James Doakes, an Army Ranger in the elite regimental reconnaissance detachment. Obviously he had advance combat training and Dexter had him beat just after Doakes sucker punched him and again when Doakes found out that Dexter was the BBB and that was after Dexter was shot.
What was Lecter's combat training? Keep in mind, Dexter had been trained before his official training. He had been trained to submit humans almost his whole life.

He was trained for years in kenjutsu by Lady Murasaki. He killed Verger's Sardinian henchmen while he still had tranquilizers in his system, he put an FBI agent in the ICU with one strike, and when he was a teenager he cleaved through about a half dozen henchmen when he was hunting down the leader of the soldiers who ate his sister.

Plus for some reason he can influence animals into obeying him with his facial gestures. Not relevant, still cool.

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#32 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane:

Unless Lecter is bringing a sword to the fight, I highly doubt the kenjutsu will benefit him. If it came down to H2H (which I think it will), my money would easily be on the guy with decades of submission training and advanced jujitsu over the guy that studied the technique of the sword for years.

Killing unsuspecting goons while they think he is tranq'd is not a feat. The same goes for the FBI agent only when they thought he was restrained.

The killing of 6 men is actually interesting and could be a feat if you could elaborate further on it.

#33 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@CitizenBane:
Unless Lecter is bringing a sword to the fight, I highly doubt the kenjutsu will benefit him. If it came down to H2H (which I think it will), my money would easily be on the guy with decades of submission training and advanced jujitsu over the guy that studied the technique of the sword for years.
Killing unsuspecting goons while they think he is tranq'd is not a feat. The same goes for the FBI agent only when they thought he was restrained.
The killing of 6 men is actually interesting and could be a feat if you could elaborate further on it.

He was tranq'd, he killed them with a knife that he carries on his person at all times. And he wasn't restrained, it was in his study. It was when he was caught, he pinned the agent down and drove a tanto knife into his stomach and twisted the blade. The agent managed to squeeze off a lucky shot before he collapsed, and that's the only reason Lecter was ever caught.

The 6 men was when Grutas kidnapped his aunt and held her onboard his ship. He killed those guys with a knife as well, though stealth was involved for a few of them.

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#34 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane:

Now how are these anything that Dexter himself could not easily replicate? Considering Dexter favors severing the carotid artery instinctively in all his fights that end in a fatality, I would even go as far as to say he could have avoided getting shot since his kill would have been immediate.

#35 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Erik: The shot was just a little away from point-blank range, I doubt Dexter could have done anything about it. And this was an attack Lecter wasn't even prepared for. He observed the agent's body language and knew he'd realized that Lecter was the Chesapeake Ripper. It was a spur of the moment thing.

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#36 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane:

Your previous post implied that the shot came after the stab. If that were true in Dexter's case, there would have been no shot at all. The agent's death would have been immediate.

It still in no way provides any objective evidence that Lecter can do what Dexter cannot in any shape or form. On the flip side, Dexter has much more on paper that would logically provide evidence of his superiority.

#37 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@CitizenBane:
Now how are these anything that Dexter himself could not easily replicate? Considering Dexter favors severing the carotid artery instinctively in all his fights that end in a fatality, I would even go as far as to say he could have avoided getting shot since his kill would have been immediate.

Also his kill wasn't immediate because he was amazed that the agent had figured it out. He held him down and told him that he was going to eat his brain. That's not standard operating procedure for him.

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#38 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane:

Then the feat is useless.

#39 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Erik: Dexter would win in a random encounter, but he'd take injuries. Lecter would stomp in the rounds with prep, he's smarter and has far more resources.

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#40 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Erik: Dexter would win in a random encounter, but he'd take injuries. Lecter would stomp in the rounds with prep, he's smarter and has far more resources.

Smarter in what way? What resources does he have that Dexter does not? In case you do not watch Dexter, I will fill you in on the resources he does have.

He has at least approximately the value of a house in Florida (assume over 100k), and the entirety of the Miami Police Department to be manipulated (or objects borrowed) at his will.

#41 Posted by theicon (1797 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

lecter takes it all

#42 Posted by CitizenBane (19868 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@CitizenBane said:
@Erik: Dexter would win in a random encounter, but he'd take injuries. Lecter would stomp in the rounds with prep, he's smarter and has far more resources.
Smarter in what way? What resources does he have that Dexter does not? In case you do not watch Dexter, I will fill you in on the resources he does have.
He has at least approximately the value of a house in Florida (assume over 100k), and the entirety of the Miami Police Department to be manipulated (or objects borrowed) at his will.

Smarter as in he's evaded suspicion by Interpol and the police forces of at least 4 countries, as well as the bounty hunters hired by vengeful former victims. He was only caught because one of the FBI's best agents happened to be in exactly the right place at exactly the right time. He has massive amounts of esoteric knowledge pertaining to medicine, psychology, surgery, history, art and....cooking.

I do watch Dexter, and that's how I know Lecter's resources are greater. He was very wealthy pre-arrest, his father was a Lithuanian count and his mother was Italian royalty. He also had a thriving psychiatry practice. Even post-arrest, he was able to trick security personnel at airports (even when his picture was plastered everywhere and the airports were on high alert for him) and move between countries with ease. He secretly purchased a home in Florence whose value I don't know, but by the looks of it was worth a lot more than 100K. He was attending operas and the taunting messages he sent the FBI were on an extremely rare, incredibly expensive kind of paper.

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#43 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane:

Yes but we are using the most recent version of each character, not the most convenient. Lecter has no assets, is a known murderer, and has almost no resources. Even if he had that house worth well over 100k, he could not do anything with it for this battle.

Attending operas is NOT an indicator of intellect.

Dexter also has a deep knowledge of medicine, human biology, anatomy and can always sniff out other "monsters". Sometimes with as little as a look. He himself even stated he would have known about Brian if he were not distracted. He may not be a psychologist, but he knows monsters. Lecter is one of those monsters.

Not being a doctor myself, I can only go off of hearsay but I have known a few doctors to say that head-shrinkers are doctors that could not cut it in an actual medical field. Which obviously is subjective but saying someone is a psychologist is not saying someone is smart. All it means is that someone is schooled in the human mind.

#44 Posted by The Stegman (13037 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Round one- Dexter

Round Two- Hannibal

Round Three- leaning slightly toward Hannibal, who would find Dexter's loved ones, probably kill them or torture them, get Dexter upset and thus making him make mistakes until Lecter gets the victory

#45 Posted by Nefarious (16255 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Dexter lacks the EXPERIENCE that Lecter has...

#46 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Dexter lacks the EXPERIENCE that Lecter has...

No he does not. He has killed 67 people through extensive investigation, planning and careful execution. It may not be the kill count that Lecter has, whatever his is, but at a certain point, they become drops in a bucket.

#47 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Oh wait, by the end of season 5, it bumps up to 72.

#48 Posted by PikminMania (4628 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Erik: Hannibal was able to manipulate someones life and make it hell while he was in jail.

Lecter wins

#49 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@PikminMania said:

@Erik: Hannibal was able to manipulate someones life and make it hell while he was in jail. Lecter wins

So what? What is that even supposed to mean?

#50 Posted by Nefarious (16255 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Erik: True.