Hancock vs General Zod

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#1  Edited By lordraiden

Hancock has to stop Zod from taking over his city, can he take down the Kryptonian general? Battle starts in the middle of the city.

Bonus Battle:

Zod & Faora vs Hancock & Mary (both at full power not affecting each others powers)

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Zod and Faora

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With Hancock vs Zod, Hancock wins, just because, as long as Mary isn't around, he's invulnerable.

In the bonus battle, Mary and Hancock would get their butt whooped, because they turn mortal when they're together.

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Zod stomps.

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With Hancock vs Zod, Hancock wins, just because, as long as Mary isn't around, he's invulnerable.

In the bonus battle, Mary and Hancock would get their butt whooped, because they turn mortal when they're together.

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That logic is only valid in the Hancock universe because he hasn't faced on anyone on his level of strength or durability. If we were to go by comic book Lore, Superman is generally accepted to invulnerable in the absence of Kryptonite or magic. If Superman didn't face anyone as strong as him he would be seen as invulnerable and impervious to damage. But as we all know, someone on his strength level can harm him. So we can't really say that Hancock wins because he's said to invulnerable if Mary isn't around. He could be seen to be invulnerable because he lives on an earth that only has humans and so has no one to challenge him physically and therefore we cannot assume he'd win because he's said to invulnerable

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@dondave: thank you for saying that people always say he cant be hurt but i couldnt argue against it because i didnt have an acount

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@jmarshmallow: @coolcat4: @dondave: That logic is only valid in the Hancock universe because he hasn't faced on anyone on his level of strength or durability.

Yes he did. When he fought mary. she was at least his match and even she couldn't hurt him. Superman is stated to be "nigh invulnerable" not invulnerable. The directors have stated in interviews that Hancock is invulnerable if mary isn't around. and nothing in the movie contradicted those statements

and so has no one to challenge him physically and therefore we cannot assume he'd win because he's said to invulnerable

As said he has faced someone on his level. IMO it depends on Zod's durability. They may not be able to hurt each other. Just because Hancock is invulnerable does not mean he has infinite strength. I'm not sure.

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@pooty: Since Mary IS around .... Zod and Faora win.

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@pooty said:

@jmarshmallow: @coolcat4: @dondave: That logic is only valid in the Hancock universe because he hasn't faced on anyone on his level of strength or durability.

Yes he did. When he fought mary. she was at least his match and even she couldn't hurt him. Superman is stated to be "nigh invulnerable" not invulnerable. The directors have stated in interviews that Hancock is invulnerable if mary isn't around. and nothing in the movie contradicted those statements

and so has no one to challenge him physically and therefore we cannot assume he'd win because he's said to invulnerable

As said he has faced someone on his level. IMO it depends on Zod's durability. They may not be able to hurt each other. Just because Hancock is invulnerable does not mean he has infinite strength. I'm not sure.

Pretty much this. I don't really remember anything Handcock did that showed he could bang with Zod, but I don't think Zod could hurt him. Zod also might be faster. So I feel like round 1 is a complete stalemate.

Round two is a stupid stomp for Zod.

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#12  Edited By AngryHulks

@pooty said:

@jmarshmallow: @coolcat4: @dondave: That logic is only valid in the Hancock universe because he hasn't faced on anyone on his level of strength or durability.

Yes he did. When he fought mary. she was at least his match and even she couldn't hurt him. Superman is stated to be "nigh invulnerable" not invulnerable. The directors have stated in interviews that Hancock is invulnerable if mary isn't around. and nothing in the movie contradicted those statements

and so has no one to challenge him physically and therefore we cannot assume he'd win because he's said to invulnerable

As said he has faced someone on his level. IMO it depends on Zod's durability. They may not be able to hurt each other. Just because Hancock is invulnerable does not mean he has infinite strength. I'm not sure.

If Peter Berg becomes a comic book writer, he must have the worst creativity ever. Anyway, if Hancock sequel is under work for somehow, he may later prove that his invulnerability may have limit after all. Simply someone as strong as him does not cut it, they need someone really, really powerful, literally his Doomsday.

Anyway, stalemate might be a possibility right now, and I agree with you on this.

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@angryhulks: @bossmonster: I agree with both your statements. Stalemate or inconclusive

@pooty: Since Mary IS around .... Zod and Faora win.

very true. but i think the OP meant for them to remain at full power. also, they can always fly away from each other.

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Zod has far more fighting experience, he trained on Krypton. Where did Hancock train, on the streets?

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@pooty said:

very true. but i think the OP meant for them to remain at full power. also, they can always fly away from each other.

The OP suggests nothing of the sort .....

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#16  Edited By King_Saturn

Zod has far more fighting experience, he trained on Krypton. Where did Hancock train, on the streets?

Zod was getting tagged by Jor-El in the beginning of MoS... and nothing suggested in that film that Jor-El was some type of great martial arts fighter. Hancock would be able to tag Zod and vice versa... just as Superman was able to tag him... your point is completely moot.

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#17  Edited By pooty

@ancient_0f_days: I know. i think it is an oversight. even if it isn't just because they start together doesn't mean they have to stay in the same area

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@pooty said:

@ancient_0f_days: I know. i think it is an oversight. even if it isn't just because they start together doesn't mean they have to stay in the same area

If Hancock sees that Mary is having trouble, he will make an attempt to rescue....and she will be having trouble if she is fighting Faora. In any case, I'd bet on either team regrouping or trying to add support to the other team member...difference though, it won't hurt the kryptonians in the end. Even if they do stay apart, unless they are miles apart, John will feel the effects of Mary's proximity and slowly begin to weaken ..... Hancock should've been alone if the OP intended for his plot based invulnerability to have significant effect here

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@ancient_0f_days: If Hancock sees that Mary is having trouble, he will make an attempt to rescue....and she will be having trouble if she is fighting Faora.

Disagree. First Faora may be the one who needs help. Second, Hancock and Mary both know that trying to aid each other will only hurt them more. It makes no sense for them to fight in the same vincinity when they know their weakness. They will split up and fight as individuals.

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HANCOCK WINS!

PRAISE BE TO OUR LORD AND SAVIOR!!!!

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HANCOCK WINS!

PRAISE BE TO OUR LORD AND SAVIOR!!!!

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edited the op, Hancock & his wife are at full power, otherwise it's a pointless battle, this is the battles forum, after all, there is no plot devices needed here lol

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@lordraiden: It doesn't matter if they are together to fight a battle, they weaken overtime as seen with Hancock being around for weeks for eventually becoming mortal and even then he had strength beyond a humans, the only thing that went that was noticeable was that his invulnerability/durability had gone.

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@deus: the power said that they won't affect each other in close proximity. Means no powers disappearing. But still the kryptonians win.

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#25  Edited By Iragexcudder

Dondave is God

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Team Zod.

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#27  Edited By GXrevolution96
@deus said:

@lordraiden: It doesn't matter if they are together to fight a battle, they weaken overtime as seen with Hancock being around for weeks for eventually becoming mortal and even then he had strength beyond a humans, the only thing that went that was noticeable was that his invulnerability/durability had gone.

This. Exactly.

To add to this; Hanock and Mary's powers don't go just from being close. It is only when they begin to "re-connect on a emotional level" e.g. they start caring about one another, do their powers begin to disappear. Hancock was visiting Ray every other day for weeks and still had his powers. Even when they go out to dinner and later kiss, they still have their powers. It is only after their fight and when Hancock starts becoming emotionally close to her, does his powers fade. And even then, he was causally tossing hospital beds around like beach ball, and was still "alive" after being shot a dozen times in the chest.

As already mentioned, the only thing that went down was DURABILITY, which was still high enough for him to tank a fire extinguish to the back, and being shot multiple times in the torso.

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Kryptonians win a close, long hard fought battle..

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Zod

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Hancock kneels.

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Hancock dies hard

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Zod solostomps.

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Zod both rounds.

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hancock both rounds

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Hancock in both i think is above their league to a some degree base on his showing but they will put up a pretty good fight before going down

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Zod low diff