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#1 Posted by CosmicCupcake (74 posts) - - Show Bio

~ Chicago, Illinois.   Morals off.  Standard conditions. 5 blocks apart. Both will be at full power!!


 
 

       
 
#2 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

Both at full power?

Darkseid stomps effortlessly.

#3 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

How can you assume what Hancock would be like at full power when such a thing was never shown. I hate when battles involving film characters with incredibly small showings are used against comic book characters with 60+ years of feats.

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#4 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

lol

#5 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

There is insufficient data to say for a fact that Darkseid would win. Hancock's limits were never tested.

#6 Posted by P0rtal (872 posts) - - Show Bio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hancock_(film)

John Hancock (Will Smith) is an alcoholic man with super powers, including flight, invulnerability, immortality and superhuman strength

http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Darkseid

He has great physical strength, invulnerability, and Omega Beams, which are a vision power that is immensely powerful and can even do considerable damage to a Kryptonian. He can control the beams in midair, even after they've left his eyes

Sadly, after reading thousands of comics in my life and most of darkseids appearances, I've come to the conclusion this statement about his invulernability is pure nonsense and not reflective of what actually happens in the comics. Much like how Marvel says Zeus is weaker than Odin, which is simply not at all true, just my opinions though, no facts. It would be a good fight, but due to the script writing in the movie Hancock, he is totally invulnerable to everything any anything so long as another of his kind is not near him. According to the stories of both characters, Darkseid should not be able to inflict any harm to him, and other beings in the DC universe have smacked Darkseid hard enough to send him flying. Hancock takes the win, flys to Darkseids castle, has sex with his maidens, eats and drinks as much as he wants and then flys right back home.

#7 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

How can you assume what Hancock would be like at full power when such a thing was never shown. I hate when battles involving film characters with incredibly small showings are used against comic book characters with 60+ years of feats.

#8 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

@P0rtal: I'm speechless.

#9 Posted by CODYSF (2053 posts) - - Show Bio

This is stupid in one blink Darkseid win with the Omega Bean the end

#10 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

For all we know, Hancock might be too powerful for the Omega Force to affect.

I highly doubt it, but my point is that this is all speculation.

#11 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

For all we know, Hancock might be too powerful for the Omega Force to affect.

I highly doubt it, but my point is that this is all speculation.

It was stated that Hancock can't be harmed by any purely physical force(as long as he's separated from that woman).

#12 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: For the last time, prove the Omega Beams are purely physical.

#13 Edited by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio
Darkseid beats the crap out of The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
#14 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid would Mind rape him and turn him into a slave to do his bidding.

#15 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

@King Saturn: That's great, but how does he do against Hancock?

@Enemybird: 1. That word is offensive and shouldn't be taken lightly.

2. Prove Hancock is susceptible to mind control.

#16 Posted by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@King Saturn: That's great, but how does he do against Hancock?

@Enemybird: 1. That word is offensive and shouldn't be taken lightly.

2. Prove Hancock is susceptible to mind control.

several ways... he could use the Omega Beams to teleport Hancock into a Black Hole.
#17 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

@King Saturn: For all we know, Hancock might be able to resist like Gog resisted the Phantom Zone Projector.

#18 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@Enemybird said:

Darkseid would Mind rape him and turn him into a slave to do his bidding.

Please don't use that word.

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@majestic99: For the last time, prove the Omega Beams are purely physical.

It's a concussive force. All concussive forces are purely physical.

#19 Edited by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: No. It is not always concussive. Sometimes it erases the target from existence. Sometimes it teleports. Sometimes it transmutates.

Is Thor's Godblast physical? It's been described as bludgeoning.

EDIT: And explain how Secret's intangible form can be affected if it's purely physical.

#20 Posted by King Saturn (224025 posts) - - Show Bio
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@King Saturn: For all we know, Hancock might be able to resist like Gog resisted the Phantom Zone Projector.

I highly doubt it
#21 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@King Saturn: That's great, but how does he do against Hancock?

@Enemybird: 1. That word is offensive and shouldn't be taken lightly.

2. Prove Hancock is susceptible to mind control.

1. What word rape or slave?

#22 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

@Enemybird: Rape. Although slavery is a touchy subject as well.

I doubt it as well, but my point is, we can't prove it either way.

#23 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@majestic99: No. It is not always concussive. Sometimes it erases the target from existence. Sometimes it teleports. Sometimes it transmutates.

Is Thor's Godblast physical? It's been described as bludgeoning.

EDIT: And explain how Secret's intangible form can be affected if it's purely physical.

1. I know it can do those things. Even when it does those things, it's still energy beams(physical)

2. No, godblast isn't physical, it's a massive mystical energy blast.

3. To the edit, WHAT?

#24 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@King Saturn: For all we know, Hancock might be able to resist like Gog resisted the Phantom Zone Projector.

Never in a million years.

#25 Edited by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: Fine then. By your logic, Galactus who is not magical cannot hurt Hancock.

And the edited part of my post was asking you how a physical attack can KO a non-corporeal form.

EDIT: You're contradicting yourself too. If Hancock is immune to physical force, and Darkseid's Omega Beams are purely physical force, then Darkseid cannot teleport Hancock since the beams are energy and thus physical, which Hancock is immune to by your own words.

#26 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@Enemybird: Rape. Although slavery is a touchy subject as well.

I doubt it as well, but my point is, we can't prove it either way.

Anata wa shinokuna koto wa dekimasen...

#27 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

@Enemybird: I have no clue what you just said.

#28 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@Enemybird: I have no clue what you just said.

you have a point there

#29 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

EDIT: You're contradicting yourself too. If Hancock is immune to physical force, and Darkseid's Omega Beams are purely physical force, then Darkseid cannot teleport Hancock since the beams are energy and thus physical, which Hancock is immune to by your own words.

That's what I've been saying. He(Hancock) "can't be harmed by any purely physical force."

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

And the edited part of my post was asking you how a physical attack can KO a non-corporeal form.

I don't think that's possible. But if it is, I'll be surprised.

#30 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: It already happened in Young Justice. In a later issue, Darkseid uses his "purely physical" beams to depower Secret completely.

#31 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@majestic99: It already happened in Young Justice. In a later issue, Darkseid uses his "purely physical" beams to depower Secret completely.

Darkseid depowering others doesn't mean his energy beams are not purely physical.

#32 Posted by nickthedevil (11999 posts) - - Show Bio

This is stupid. Darkseid stomps as easily as my heel ends an ant's meaningless and pathetoc life.

#33 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio

Tired of the Hancock threads.

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#34 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: What would it take to convince you that Darkseid's beams are not purely physical?

#35 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

Tired of the Hancock threads.

Likewise.

#36 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

The only way Darkseid would win is BFR. Barring that Darkseid is going to eventually tire and succumb to repeated blows.Trying to hurt Hancock is pretty much like trying to harm classic Juggernaut i.e. futile. Thor's Mjolnir-magic-nullifying-encircling-throw strategy might work on him though.

#37 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3509 posts) - - Show Bio

Hancock succumbed to alcoholism. He's going to lose to Darkseid.

#38 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12019 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman said:

The only way Darkseid would win is BFR. Barring that Darkseid is going to eventually tire and succumb to repeated blows.Trying to hurt Hancock is pretty much like trying to harm classic Juggernaut i.e. futile. Thor's Mjolnir-magic-nullifying-encircling-throw strategy might work on him though.

your whole argument is based on speculation.... no feats.... no proof... Hancock = Juggernaut ???? lolololololol ......... thats as legitimate as Sentry = 1000000 exploding suns....... has no feats/proof that puts him at the level of Uxas (he is a god you know).....Darkseid has no fatigue glands...he doesn't get tired ..... He cannot die either.... not by conventional means anyway which is all John Hancock has........now do as the office cat tells you.

#39 Posted by Nefarious (19681 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread made me chuckle.

#40 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid wins. These Hancock threads are getting out of hand.

#41 Posted by Almighty_Darkseid (1724 posts) - - Show Bio

darkseid... this is too easy

#42 Posted by Saren (25613 posts) - - Show Bio

Hancock threw a whale into the ocean, clearly his strength is limitless.

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#43 Posted by Almighty_Darkseid (1724 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: that dont mean nothing since most whales weigh around 40-60 tons, unless its a blue whale which weights around 100-120 tons... and darkseid str class is in the 100+ tons

#44 Edited by Lvenger (19256 posts) - - Show Bio

@Almighty_Darkseid: He's being sarcastic mate.

#45 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

Based on feats I wouldn't rate Hancock's Strength higher than Alex Mercer... and thats being generous. His wife said she was stronger than him...so that clearly implies a limit to his strength.

#46 Posted by BeaverSauce (431 posts) - - Show Bio

hancock is immortal stalemate

#47 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@majestic99: What would it take to convince you that Darkseid's beams are not purely physical?

Show me a scan where it states it's something other than physical(cosmic, mystical,etc.).

#48 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@TheSwordsman said:

The only way Darkseid would win is BFR. Barring that Darkseid is going to eventually tire and succumb to repeated blows.Trying to hurt Hancock is pretty much like trying to harm classic Juggernaut i.e. futile. Thor's Mjolnir-magic-nullifying-encircling-throw strategy might work on him though.

your whole argument is based on speculation.... no feats.... no proof... Hancock = Juggernaut ???? lolololololol ......... thats as legitimate as Sentry = 1000000 exploding suns....... has no feats/proof that puts him at the level of Uxas (he is a god you know).....Darkseid has no fatigue glands...he doesn't get tired ..... He cannot die either.... not by conventional means anyway which is all John Hancock has........now do as the office cat tells you.

A very childish post.If you can't discuss topics in a battle thread like an adult then I suggest you find something else to do.

Hancock cannot be hurt (as long as he stays a distance from Therons character). This was stated and proven time and time again in the movie. Did you even see it or are you simply trolling? The difference between Sentry's hyperbole and Hancocks durability is that it was shown over and over which equals feats. Do you even know what a feat is? And, yes, Handcock is equal to Juggernaut as far as durability is concerned. He is completely invulnerable. Hancock can't be hurt. That's just the way it is, like it or not. Sorry if that upsets you.

Fatigue glands? There are no such things as fatigue glands.There are many mechanisms that cause fatigue: The body is operating at an output where the lungs cannot supply enough oxygen to allow the lactic acid to resynthesize ATP. Not enough glucose in the body. The pancrease (An organ, not a gland) not producing enough insulin to distribute glucose to the bod effectively. etc.

Fatigue glands? that made me laugh. When the Adrenalin Gland is not functioning properly one can experience something known as adrenalin fatigue, but it is not called a fatigue gland.

Darkseid does not need to die in this battle. The OP did not state "to the death" so a KO will do. Darkseid has been Knocked out before by conventional means which is what Hancock "has". Learn to read the OP more carefully so you can understand the rules and don't pretend like you know much about human anatomy because it's relatively easy to spot a charlatan such as yourself.

Perhaps you should take the cats advice because:

Now go bother someone else with your rancid, abrasive, personality.

#49 Posted by Wyldsong (5389 posts) - - Show Bio

@BeaverSauce said:

hancock is immortal stalemate

The fight isn't listed as to the death. You still have KO, BFR, incapacitation...immortality doesn't help against those.

#50 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid loses to Will Smith's clean rap.