vs
Rules
- Both in character
- Hal has all feats pre and post-New-52
- Battle on Earth
- Win by KO, death, or permanent incapacitation
Who wins?
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Rules
Who wins?
Hulk
Hal
How do you see him winning?
Hulk wins.
How do you think he takes out Hal?
Hal, he has many, many ways of putting WB Hulk down, plus BFR.
Hal can go airborne and multi-nuke the battlefield. Can restrain The Hulk with planet wide constructs. Like wise attack Hulk from the interior with mini-constructs. Can drain Hulk.
Hulk's only way to put Hal fown is being able to tag him. It could happen and if it does, Hal's done. I don't think the radiation waves from WBH would deal much damage, if any to Hal, considering that he is a pretty accomplished energy manipulator.
Hal 7/10.
WBH should win, Hal has no way of hurting him, his only option is BFR but I have never considered that a win.
Would be funny if Hal tried the same tactic on Hulk like he did Darkseid, but instead of getting a broken arm, he literally looses it.
@thor_parker82: Hal can certainly hurt Hulk, obviously not as much as he could past incarnations,but he can still do some damage.
Hal doesn't need BFR to win as long as he keeps Hulk away from touching him.
Seriously though Lantern fights should remove BFR :P
The only thing i see Hal doing is BFRing Hulk, i can't see him winning through other measures... no amount of nuking or trying to constrain Hulk is gonna work, planetary or no constructs the guy casually blows up planets... draining as well is probably not gonna work, Hulk has resisted way too many draining attempts already.
Oh and anyone who says Hal via speed is either willfully ignorant or doesn't understand WBH's character.
Hal have this in many ways. Has could shoot him/Drain him/So much ways for Hal to win. Nothing WBhuk can do here to pull off a win if its composite
@thor_parker82: Hal has the output to hurt Hulk as well, with blasts that have hurt and defeated some of the most durable beings, like Amazo, Eiling, Mongul and even Nero who was draining Kyle's Ion power.
@atheistknowledge:WBH is a planet buster, but Hal's constructs have contained Supernovas and the combined output of Dr Fate, Starman and Powergirl, and I don't think Hulk has that output. Hal has feats to suggest he can hurt Hulk, like one shotting General Eiling, Mongul Senior and taking out Amazo who was using Superman's powers.
@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2:I don't see how Hal gets one shotted.
@johnfrank120: maybe before but recent showings show that brute force of a level far below WBH can easily shatter multiple constructs, Wonder Woman was destroying them with ease and she doesn't have striking feats even on the same league, pre fears I'd be more inclined and Hal could win but recent showings show that he is no longer a major powerhouse
@johnfrank120: Not really seeing it, Hal power is all over the place sometimes he contains supernovas others he can't even contain WW, i mean if i take Hulks high end feats into account then his chances get even slimmer.
@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: @atheistknowledge:I didn't see Post New 52 as well as Pre. With Post Hal is definitely more inconsistent,but at the moment his feats are on average more high end, but it is definitely harder to decide.
@johnfrank120: Not really seeing it, Hal power is all over the place sometimes he contains supernovasothers he can't even contain WW, i mean if i take Hulks high end feats into account then his chances get even slimmer.
Jesus, can't you limit your utter ignorance of a character's feats to the Hulk?
@johnfrank120: Yea it's both new-52 and pre-52.
@thegrayghost What's up buddy, how can i help you today? What's not clear?
@atheistknowledge: What's up buddy, how can i help you today? What's not clear?
Aside from your grammar, punctuation and general command over the English language you mean?
The fact that you are vomiting out second hand information about a character's feats, devoid of context, or for that matter even basic attributes.....like assigning Kyle's feats to Hal , or whatever you have learnt from the respect threads today
Black Adam can still thunderclap Power Girl out, despite not even knowing the issue number, much less the context, amirite?
Jesus
@thegrayghost: Yes aside from ad hominem?
You mean to say this wasn't Hal?
BA thunderclapping PG was used as an analogy to how different attacks work differently it could have been any other random example, but i guess that still escapes you.
Jesus doesn't exist.
@atheistknowledge: You mean to say this wasn't Hal?
That certainly was the ...new 52 Hal, and his far weaker shields
The supernova containing dude certainly was Kyle
BA thunderclapping PG was used as an analogy to how different attacks work differently it could have been any other random example, but i guess that still escapes you.
Oh yes, it could be any random example, but you chose the out of context BA example, just to favour your supposed "argument" in the absence of one, to the point of not even knowing the issue number, as your obvious bias seeped through
Have you found out the issue numbers yet? Or are you still peddling that around as a legitimate example?
Jesus, read some comics kid, before rushing into every thread shouting "HULK SMASH!'
@sun-wukong: that's funny. How will Hulk break him if he can't even touch him?
Nice little thunder clap
@thegrayghost: Correct me if i am wrong here, but Hal wasn't retconned right? He is the same guy pre and new-52 and both his feats apply? Then i guess Johnfrank120 informed me incorrectly about the supernova feat.
Yea because it had a thunderclap preformed against a Kryptonian it was perfect for my analogy. How did i use it out of context though?
Jesus still doesn't exist. Every thread?
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/world-breaker-hulk-vs-superboy-prime-1594307/
Just posted yesterday Prime stomps him, your arguments are all now invalid. Context b!tch.
Correct me if i am wrong here, but Hal wasn't retconned right? He is the same guy pre and new-52 and both his feats apply?
Not anymore, it doesn't
Convergence made it explicitly clear that pre 52 and new 52 are different universes now
Then i guess Johnfrank120 informed me incorrectly about the supernova feat.
Heh. Like I said. Second hand information
Yea because it had a thunderclap preformed against a Kryptonian it was perfect for my analogy. How did i use it out of context though?
..................
I just explained all the context in the last thread
Do you really want me to post it all again?
Jesus still doesn't exist. Every thread?
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/world-breaker-hulk-vs-superboy-prime-1594307/
Just posted yesterday Prime stomps him, your arguments are all now invalid. Context b!tch.
Yawn , puerile attempts to incite me are puerile
And no...not really I did not mean *literally* every thread. The subtleties of the English language continue to elude you
I remember just a few days back you posted on the Phantom Stranger vs Hulk thread
Now obviously, even you are not foolish enough to argue some obvious stomps
But, you certainly do give it your best shot ( oh no Thanos beats him, but he's totally physically stronger than Tman, oh no Zeus beats him, but it's totally only via versatility etc)
@thegrayghost: The universes are different but the character is the same, right?
Yea but that context you tried to add, has nothing to do with why i was using the feat itself.
I guess sarcasm was the wrong way to go about it, i should be literal about everything.
Phantom Stranger vs Hulk thread?
Yea Thanos beats him but i see WBH as physically stronger, Zeus does beat him through versatility, what feats he has to suggest he beats Hulk in a pure brawl?
The universes are different but the character is the same, right?
Please consider what you just said, eliminate the interests of Hulk from the equation, and tell me how is it even possible?
As far as that ges no, Hal parallax from the 90s is now a totally different independent character
Yea but that context you tried to add, has nothing to do with why i was using the feat itself.
I guess sarcasm was the wrong way to go about it, i should be literal about everything.
Phantom Stranger vs Hulk thread?
Yea Thanos beats him but i see WBH as physically stronger, Zeus does beat him through versatility, what feats he has to suggest he beats Hulk in a pure brawl?
Yawn, I see no reason to debate either on this thread
I have proved my point about you and your bias, and your utter lack of knowledge of Lanterns on this thread
That is all.
@thegrayghost: Are you telling me characters from different universes can't continue over to new universes? I am just gonna tag a few people to confirm this
@kidman560, @dondave @dccomicsrule2011 @rbt
@ancient_0f_days @nighthunder @patrat18
Excuse me guys can one of you tell me if Hal from new-52 and pre-52 is the same character? As in unlike Superman he hasn't been retconned and his past feats apply to his new ones?
Well you sure gave up fast, that's too bad... The jury is still not out, so let's see who was wrong about this.
@atheistknowledge: @thegrayghost:Isn't this Hal containing an exploding star:
@johnfrank120: Okay issue no for that?
Becuase the art looks too new for it to be 90s or 80s Hal. A retelling of some origin perhaps?
He otherwise mentions....Ray Palmer....who was not the Atom when he was brought back to life
Come to think of it, the guardians there are helping him, giving him the "key to that power" or whatnot, so that isn't a solo feat for him anyway
It looks like an Elseworlds to me, so issue no?
In fact there is nothing even mentioned about a star there, so I don't see how that helps the argument here
@atheistknowledge: @thegrayghost:Isn't this Hal containing an exploding star:
Yes that's Hal.
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