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#1 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (26842 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules

Nomorals

Both are bloodlusted

They each get 2 hours prep

Fight takes place on OA

This is Pre upgrade Surfer and Pre Flash Point Hal

No BFR.
Who wins and why?

Note. NO draining I do not think it will work but some do so avoid The argument no draining. 

 


#2 Posted by MrDirector786 (43641 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm still kind of leaning towards Surfer because he's more intelligent and I see him using his 2 hours of prep more efficiently, but since this is a weaker Surfer and can't drain, it would be a good fight.

@dccomicsrule2011: BTW, nice avatar.

#3 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (26842 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrDirector786: Thanks I love Yu-Gi-OH.
#4 Posted by Mr. Dead Pool (2625 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer

#5 Posted by spiderbuck (2452 posts) - - Show Bio

surfer

#6 Posted by mrtrevorguy (1200 posts) - - Show Bio

Sufer

#7 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (26842 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mr. Dead Pool said:

Surfer

@spiderbuck said:

surfer

@mrtrevorguy said:

Sufer

Reasons?
#8 Edited by Havenless (1398 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer
 
@dccomicsrule2011
 
Because he's the Silver Surfer, not some guy with a ring.

#9 Posted by BigCimmerian (8833 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer wins.

#10 Posted by God_Spawn (38293 posts) - - Show Bio

@Havenless said:

Silver Surfer

@dccomicsrule2011: Because he's the Silver Surfer, not some guy with a ring.

And Silver Surfer is a flying silver unich on a board. Hardly a reason.

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#11 Posted by ReVamp (22798 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@Havenless said:

Silver Surfer

@dccomicsrule2011: Because he's the Silver Surfer, not some guy with a ring.

And Silver Surfer is a flying silver unich on a board. Hardly a reason.

Awesome.

#12 Posted by MrDirector786 (43641 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@MrDirector786: Thanks I love Yu-Gi-OH.

Same. I like it too.

@Havenless said:

Silver Surfer

@dccomicsrule2011: Because he's the Silver Surfer, not some guy with a ring.

I agree Surfer wins but that's not a very good reason. As god_spawn said, Surfer is a flying silver guy on a board so that's hardly a reason.

#13 Posted by BataTest (296 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer. He's got more power & better versatility. Can Hal create a black hole in somebodies eye, or turn a hot dog into a cheeseburger?

#14 Posted by Billy Batson (58293 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer.
BB

#15 Posted by nickthedevil (13892 posts) - - Show Bio

@BataTest: Well Put.

Silver Surfer.

#16 Posted by eatmore_payless (2209 posts) - - Show Bio

@Havenless said:

Silver Surfer

@dccomicsrule2011: Because he's the Silver Surfer, not some guy with a ring.

who destroyed the GL corps alone, some guy with a ring am I right bub?

#17 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1908 posts) - - Show Bio

@eatmore_payless: He was amped, but good point.

Silver Surfer wins but this would be a very interesting fight.

#18 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@BataTest said:

Surfer. He's got more power & better versatility. Can Hal create a black hole in somebodies eye, or turn a hot dog into a cheeseburger?

Good point. Surfer wins.

#19 Posted by High Revolutionary (3178 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer.

Because he's got powers like the ability to bring a dead Thor back to life on a whim. For Pete's sake that's a Classic Strange caliber feat.

#20 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (26842 posts) - - Show Bio

@BataTest said:

Surfer. He's got more power & better versatility. Can Hal create a black hole in somebodies eye, or turn a hot dog into a cheeseburger?

Well Hal can not make black holes he can Manipulate matter Like when he turned Missiles into flowers Or the density or a star.

The way I see it it could go either way Hal is versatile as SS in fact, Hal can do things SS can't can SS steal souls? Can SS make live constructs? Can Silver Surfer Make shields for Solar system buster? Can SS Teleport at will? Can SS create space warps to other dimensions? Has SS ever kept a planet it its orbit with his strength? Has SS ever created a shield to protect even Supes from getting Killed? I think not, SS is versatile but Hal is no slouch in that department. I see the fight going either way that is why i made the thread.

#21 Posted by Dex_Starr (4754 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer

#22 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (26842 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

Silver Surfer

Why do you Think SS wins?

#23 Posted by stu (378 posts) - - Show Bio

ss

#24 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: Where is the picture of Hal Jordan from?

#25 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio

this has been done before though...

#26 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (26842 posts) - - Show Bio

@difficlus said:

@dccomicsrule2011: Where is the picture of Hal Jordan from?

Form Hal's images on Comicvine that is where I got it from.

#27 Posted by Nefarious (22877 posts) - - Show Bio

SS.

#28 Posted by slick23 (460 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal Jordan bloodlusted..parallanx? 8D. he stomps!

#29 Posted by bornstar (1319 posts) - - Show Bio

i want to lean towards hal but surfer to fast for him and his attacks is just great

#30 Posted by SexualLobster (995 posts) - - Show Bio

I say Silver Surfer. I thin it'd be over quick too.

#31 Posted by deathlife (489 posts) - - Show Bio

@Havenless said:

Silver Surfer

@dccomicsrule2011: Because he's the Silver Surfer, not some guy with a ring.

This for the win.

#32 Posted by kadeem (2864 posts) - - Show Bio

This will be a very interesting and challenging battle for both opponents. I'm leaning slightly in the direction of The Surfer wining, in part because his durability advantage will give him an edge.

#33 Posted by termiteone4ever (7980 posts) - - Show Bio

In all honesty .. HAl unleashed isnt going ot be an easy win for the Surfer. As a matter a fact Technology has always been a weakness for surfer always able to take him down or strip him some how. Between HAl and Kyle i can see this fight going either way . Since i am bigger fan of Green lantern than Surfer i am going with HAl. After all there is nothing that surfer can do that the green lantern cannot do.

#34 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

Since i am bigger fan of Green lantern than Surfer i am going with HAl. After all there is nothing that surfer can do that the green lantern cannot do.

This is why I hate DC fanboys...

And the last sentence is completely false.

#35 Posted by Saren (25058 posts) - - Show Bio

Been done, Surfer wins.

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#36 Edited by nickthedevil (13892 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

Since i am bigger fan of Green lantern than Surfer i am going with HAl. After all there is nothing that surfer can do that the green lantern cannot do.

This is why I hate DC fanboys...

AMEN!

#37 Posted by nickthedevil (13892 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@BataTest said:

Surfer. He's got more power & better versatility. Can Hal create a black hole in somebodies eye, or turn a hot dog into a cheeseburger?

Well Hal can not make black holes he can Manipulate matter Like when he turned Missiles into flowers Or the density or a star.

The way I see it it could go either way Hal is versatile as SS in fact, Hal can do things SS can't can SS steal souls? Can SS make live constructs? Can Silver Surfer Make shields for Solar system buster? Can SS Teleport at will? Can SS create space warps to other dimensions? Has SS ever kept a planet it its orbit with his strength? Has SS ever created a shield to protect even Supes from getting Killed? I think not, SS is versatile but Hal is no slouch in that department. I see the fight going either way that is why i made the thread.

I dont mean to make this sound rude, but Do you not read anything about silver surfer bro?

#38 Posted by supermandefender (2055 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal can make a Blackhole it all depends on the Will power of the user. Anything the mind can think of the Ring barrier can create. Green Lanterns are extremely under rated. Thats why I loved the GL movie when Killawog created a Star with his ring. Lanterns very much have the power 2 do so. Again its only limited to the users Will Power. For most ppl I really suggest reading the arcs where Hal Jordan goes mad and stars killing GLs. Really good short series very epic. Also very fun reading.

#39 Posted by Mysterioz (604 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermandefender: can they create life?

#40 Posted by termiteone4ever (7980 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

Since i am bigger fan of Green lantern than Surfer i am going with HAl. After all there is nothing that surfer can do that the green lantern cannot do.

This is why I hate DC fanboys...

And the last sentence is completely false.

Fan boy or what ever you want call me . I think i can say that pretty fairly because i have read and seen both characters . Both are capable of doing great things. Tell me something what the lantern cannot do make sure you read plenty of green lantersn because he has almost did all of surfer feats and more. surfer has done feats he hasnt as well .

#41 Posted by supermandefender (2055 posts) - - Show Bio

Mysterioz: You didnt read the Parallax arc did you? LOL Absolutely YES! It all depends on the amount of power the ring user has. Hal lacked the power to recreate ORange city and the life there. Read Lantern Rebirth. Batman and the JLA confront Hal because he made his old apartment. Batmans quote was creating dead cities again HAL? Questioning if Hal would go back to his old Parallax days. anyway to answer your question...the answer is yes. As parallax Hal had the power to create a entire new universe in his image. It almost did it.

#42 Posted by Mysterioz (604 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermandefender: so he can make dear and humans (because that is so badass!) also does it last forever?

#43 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

Tell me something what the lantern cannot do make sure you read plenty of green lantersn because he has almost did all of surfer feats and more.

Creating black holes, absorbing stars, transmutation, etc

#44 Edited by MutenRoshi (850 posts) - - Show Bio

The biggest problems with Lanterns is most of them are just human, just mortal. Lobo has smashed through Hal's shields easily and beat the crap out of him

Surfer when you take away his energy manipulation, take away his atomic rearrangement, even take away his super fast board...he's still deadly, strong enough to fight replicas of Dr Doom with no power cosmic, tough enough to take a job lifting 6 tonne steel girders with other superpowered laborers and Surfer with no power cosmic was tuff enough to take on World War Hulk and all his war buddies

Surfer can make shields like Hal but he doesn't really need to bother making shileding, Surfer's skin is very durable and Surfer with no power cosmic blasts, no other abilities just his fists he is still very, very powerful

Once a brick breaks past Hal's shields he's done, he's way too human, way to mortal

Also there's a huge speed gap between the Surfer and Hal

.

Hal will fall

#45 Posted by King Saturn (225050 posts) - - Show Bio
Have we not beat this horse to death already ? Silver Surfer wins... he is more versatile than Green Lantern Hal Jordan... Hal will put up a fight for a while but then succumb to the power of the Silver Surfer.
#46 Posted by termiteone4ever (7980 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

Tell me something what the lantern cannot do make sure you read plenty of green lantersn because he has almost did all of surfer feats and more.

Creating black holes, absorbing stars, transmutation, etc

Green lantern has done various things including transmutation and plenty more. The ring is limited to will power and imagination HAl , kyle and Stewart has proven this.

@MutenRoshi:

Why you trying to use Supergirl in her dark mode as an example. Supergirl in that mode was a freak. Any way surfer wont be pulling that feat we all know surfer only has stright line speed and cant blitz anyone in close combat. so try again.

@King Saturn said:

Have we not beat this horse to death already ? Silver Surfer wins... he is more versatile than Green Lantern Hal Jordan... Hal will put up a fight for a while but then succumb to the power of the Silver Surfer.

The horse is still riding unless surfer is the horse . This match could go either way . Both have some high feats Surfer unleashed is powerful so is HAl . Well see what happen when he turned Pharallax

#47 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

Tell me something what the lantern cannot do make sure you read plenty of green lantersn because he has almost did all of surfer feats and more.

Creating black holes, absorbing stars, transmutation, etc

Green lantern has done various things including transmutation and plenty more. The ring is limited to will power and imagination HAl , kyle and Stewart has proven this.

Scans?

#48 Posted by termiteone4ever (7980 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

Tell me something what the lantern cannot do make sure you read plenty of green lantersn because he has almost did all of surfer feats and more.

Creating black holes, absorbing stars, transmutation, etc

Green lantern has done various things including transmutation and plenty more. The ring is limited to will power and imagination HAl , kyle and Stewart has proven this.

Scans?

Go look in a respect thread for now . i am too far away to dig in my collection for scans.

You should have facts about both characters before taking sides.

#49 Posted by supermandefender (2055 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mysterioz: @supermandefender: so he can make dear and humans (because that is so badass!) also does it last forever? Yes. It just depends on his will power. Before Hal went rouge he tried to create coast city and everybody that died there. He didnt have enough power to do so. Creating life would depend on how strong Hals will is he would have to will something enough to make it live. Look at the Guardians and what they did and what they are respondible for...they harnessed the power of will because it was the strongest in the universe. And they created the Manhunters and they are living. The Guardians are respondible for alot. But Ive never seen Surfer transmuate a being on Thors level or GLs level into another object. It was the guardians that are respondible for the anti-mater universe and Anti-monitor and Monitors. So yes its within him to be able to. As Parallax he was gonna recreate the universe in his image. My answer to that is yes. But it depends on his power. If he doesnt have enough power it wont work like what happened when he tried re-creating coast city. @Vemonoushatred1001: Tell me something what the lantern cannot do make sure you read plenty of green lantersn because he has almost did all of surfer feats and more. Creating black holes, absorbing stars, transmutation, etc Hal can create Blackholes and absorb energies. This all depends on his will power. As Parallax Hal went around defeated and absorbed the power from other lanterns and absorbed enough power to create a universe and destory the old one. Thats not much he cant do with enough power. It all depends on his powerlevels. Current Hal wouldnt be able to make a full on blackhole or absorb hole stars because his power level is 2 low but if he increased his levels like he did before he could easily. Hal has to my knowledge never transmutated any objects into other things. Silver Surfer has him on that.

#50 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (4409 posts) - - Show Bio
@supermandefender said:
@Mysterioz: @supermandefender: so he can make dear and humans (because that is so badass!) also does it last forever? Yes. It just depends on his will power. Before Hal went rouge he tried to create coast city and everybody that died there. He didnt have enough power to do so. Creating life would depend on how strong Hals will is he would have to will something enough to make it live. Look at the Guardians and what they did and what they are respondible for...they harnessed the power of will because it was the strongest in the universe. And they created the Manhunters and they are living. The Guardians are respondible for alot. But Ive never seen Surfer transmuate a being on Thors level or GLs level into another object. It was the guardians that are respondible for the anti-mater universe and Anti-monitor and Monitors. So yes its within him to be able to. As Parallax he was gonna recreate the universe in his image. My answer to that is yes. But it depends on his power. If he doesnt have enough power it wont work like what happened when he tried re-creating coast city. @Vemonoushatred1001: Tell me something what the lantern cannot do make sure you read plenty of green lantersn because he has almost did all of surfer feats and more. Creating black holes, absorbing stars, transmutation, etc Hal can create Blackholes and absorb energies. This all depends on his will power. As Parallax Hal went around defeated and absorbed the power from other lanterns and absorbed enough power to create a universe and destory the old one. Thats not much he cant do with enough power. It all depends on his powerlevels. Current Hal wouldnt be able to make a full on blackhole or absorb hole stars because his power level is 2 low but if he increased his levels like he did before he could easily. Hal has to my knowledge never transmutated any objects into other things. Silver Surfer has him on that.
I thought the Manhunters were androids, that's not living that's a robot.  Unless there is something I missed, please correct if so.