Hal Jordan vs Kyle Rayner vs Alan Scott

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#1 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

-No prep
-No Morals
- Fight is on Oa 
-Rings fully charged
-Current versions
-Searched it and found nothing. Fight of the 3 great lanterns.
- Who wins and why? Details if ya can



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#2 Posted by MarvelJackAss433 (12238 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

guy gardner wins
#3 Edited by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@MarvelJackAss433 said:

" I dont know what im talking about "

Edited it for u :P lol smartass
#4 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

have to go with kyle just got done reading some of respect thread his pretty strong...but i dont know to much about the other 2 lanterns

thats what you call skill lol
#5 Posted by MarvelJackAss433 (12238 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740:
I was joking
#6 Posted by MrDirector786 (41436 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

I say Alan Scott comes out on top, then I'll say Hal just because he's my favorite GL :P
And Kyle is the biggest loser in this fight. :P
Kyle's still cool. He's my second favorite GL next to Hal and it's close.

#7 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@MarvelJackAss433: haha i know u were. So was I
@PirateKing69:  Woah nice pic
#8 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@MrDirector786:  Why u say Alan?
#9 Posted by MrDirector786 (41436 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:
" @MrDirector786:  Why u say Alan? "
A lot of people on here say that Alan Scott is the most powerful GL. Many threads involving pretty much any other GL against Alan seems to have Alan as the winner. But Kyle is still the biggest loser of this fight and he's in last place. :P
#10 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740: he has some riduculas scans..got one of him in space and made a pirate ship to attack a alien ship..he does alot with his constructs 
 
Iv never seen a fight go like this
#11 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@MrDirector786:  Ahh ok. Lol well why dont u REALLY tell me how u feel on Kyle? hahaha
#12 Posted by Lil_Cal (172 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@MrDirector786 said:
" @TheFlash4740 said:
" @MrDirector786:  Why u say Alan? "
A lot of people on here say that Alan Scott is the most powerful GL. Many threads involving pretty much any other GL against Alan seems to have Alan as the winner. But Kyle is still the biggest loser of this fight and he's in last place. :P "
Kyle could take Hal IMO. I've seen Merc prove it time and time again. Don't think he can take Alan though....
#13 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

yea i heard alan can do anything he imagines not sure tho..ima have to look up some info on them...i like kyles constructs and iv seen a couple threads of people sayin he was stronger then hal dont know if its all the way true

#14 Posted by ssejllenrad (11461 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

My 2 cents: 
Strongest Will -Hal 
Most Creative and Innovative -Kyle 
Most Clever -Alan 
I think Hal takes it. Again, just my 2 cents...

#15 Posted by MrDirector786 (41436 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:
" @MrDirector786:  Ahh ok. Lol well why dont u REALLY tell me how u feel on Kyle? hahaha "
Well, I'm actually not too sure about who would win between Kyle and Hal. But Kyle is my second favorite GL next only to Hal.
#16 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Lil_Cal said:
" @MrDirector786 said:
" @TheFlash4740 said:
" @MrDirector786:  Why u say Alan? "
A lot of people on here say that Alan Scott is the most powerful GL. Many threads involving pretty much any other GL against Alan seems to have Alan as the winner. But Kyle is still the biggest loser of this fight and he's in last place. :P "
Kyle could take Hal IMO. I've seen Merc prove it time and time again. Don't think he can take Alan though.... "
How did Merc Say he Beat Hal? Have Scans or anything
#17 Edited by Sexy Merc (41965 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

It's between Kyle and Alan. Hal has been stated to have the most powerful will in the universe before, but he's flat out given up before. He also got infected by Parallax rather easily, whereas Kyle was fighting over the control the whole time in his mind.

#18 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740: he gave alot of good details i think he was the one that explained to me how kyle was stronger it was on a recent post...try green lanterns vs flash and martian manhunter thread
#19 Posted by Lil_Cal (172 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:
" @Lil_Cal said:
" @MrDirector786 said:
" @TheFlash4740 said:
" @MrDirector786:  Why u say Alan? "
A lot of people on here say that Alan Scott is the most powerful GL. Many threads involving pretty much any other GL against Alan seems to have Alan as the winner. But Kyle is still the biggest loser of this fight and he's in last place. :P "
Kyle could take Hal IMO. I've seen Merc prove it time and time again. Don't think he can take Alan though.... "
How did Merc Say he Beat Hal? Have Scans or anything "
Kyle has the best feats of any lantern. (And I don't mean just his Ion feats either) 
I don't have the scans (they're not mine after all) but Kyle has been shown holding back supernovas and such before.
#20 Posted by ssejllenrad (11461 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:
" It's between Kyle and Alan. Hal has been stated to have the most powerful will in the universe before, but he's flat out given up before. He also got infected by Parallax rather easily, whereas Kyle was fighting over the control the whole time in his mind. "
Well Kyle was cheating! He used a pencil! Hal did not have a pencil!!!! Ehehehehe! 
 
#21 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:
" It's between Kyle and Alan. Hal has been stated to have the most powerful will in the universe before, but he's flat out given up before. He also got infected by Parallax rather easily, whereas Kyle was fighting over the control the whole time in his mind. "
How so?
#22 Posted by Sexy Merc (41965 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@ssejllenrad: Haha, that kind of proves my point though. Kyle's never given up. He doesn't even know what it means to give up. During the Obsidian Age, he willingly let a Manitou Raven rip out his heart, because it was the only way to win. Parallax (Hal) beats the crap out of the entire JLA, Kyle included and takes his Ring. Kyle picks up a lead pipe, ring-less, and attacks him because he's still alive. He also gave up near omnipotence, willingly. 
#23 Posted by ssejllenrad (11461 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:
" @ssejllenrad: Haha, that kind of proves my point though. Kyle's never given up. He doesn't even know what it means to give up. During the Obsidian Age, he willingly let a Manitou Raven rip out his heart, because it was the only way to win. Parallax (Hal) beats the crap out of the entire JLA, Kyle included and takes his Ring. Kyle picks up a lead pipe, ring-less, and attacks him because he's still alive. He also gave up near omnipotence, willingly.  "
I wish he hadn't. Those new Guardians were so damn irritating and treated him as if he had done no sacrifice. 
 
I switch sides from Hal to Kyle due to your reasoning though.. :D
#24 Posted by Sexy Merc (41965 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@ssejllenrad said:
" @Sexy Merc said:
" @ssejllenrad: Haha, that kind of proves my point though. Kyle's never given up. He doesn't even know what it means to give up. During the Obsidian Age, he willingly let a Manitou Raven rip out his heart, because it was the only way to win. Parallax (Hal) beats the crap out of the entire JLA, Kyle included and takes his Ring. Kyle picks up a lead pipe, ring-less, and attacks him because he's still alive. He also gave up near omnipotence, willingly.  "
I wish he hadn't. Those new Guardians were so damn irritating and treated him as if he had done no sacrifice.  I switch sides from Hal to Kyle due to your reasoning though.. :D "
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the current Guardians. I prefer the Old Oans much more and Ganthet is better than all the Guardians combined.
#25 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc: Well isn't this battle really about willpower? In that case why wouldnt Jordan Win? I know u Love Kyle but why disclose Hal so quickly
#26 Posted by Sexy Merc (41965 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740: I've debated Kyle vs Hal here many times. I already know the outcome.
#27 Posted by MrDirector786 (41436 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

So then, HAL is the biggest loser in this fight and HE is in last place?!?!? : _(

#28 Posted by Lil_Cal (172 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@MrDirector786 said:
" So then, HAL is the biggest loser in this fight and HE is in last place?!?!? : _( "
Yes.
#29 Posted by MrDirector786 (41436 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Lil_Cal said:
" @MrDirector786 said:
" So then, HAL is the biggest loser in this fight and HE is in last place?!?!? : _( "
Yes. "
D:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
#30 Posted by Lil_Cal (172 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@MrDirector786: It could be worse, you could be a Daredevil fan.
#31 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc:  A legit outcome that actually happend? Or one You think would happen. Has Kyle and Hal actually fought? I dont know much about either really. Just trying to know more. How are Kyle's feats better than Hal's if Hal has more Willpower
#32 Posted by Sexy Merc (41965 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740: Not a legit fight from the comics. I meant in a debate. Honestly, I don't feel like going over this again, at least not now.
#33 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc:  No worries
#34 Posted by Lil_Cal (172 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc: Care if I copy pasta one of your old arguments for why Kyle wins?
#35 Posted by Sexy Merc (41965 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Lil_Cal: Uh..PM me it first, lol.
#36 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Lil_Cal:  I for one would like to see the argument lol
#37 Posted by Lil_Cal (172 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:
" @Lil_Cal: Uh..PM me it first, lol. "
Screw it, I can't find the thread where you made it. >.<
#38 Posted by beatboks1 (4859 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Like Merc said it comes down to Kyle vs Alan. Now Merc the big Kyle fan on these boards and I'm the equal avitar of Alan, but as I see it there are two possible conclusions (based on current canon).
1. After Hal's defeated it comes down to Kyle vs Alan where Kyle wins because Alan has to retain some of his will power containin/ cotroling the Starheart energy
2. Alan actually put's everything he has into the battle against Kyle (letting down his safe guards and controls on the Starheart) and becomes consumed by it once again, Kyle ends up facing the starheart possessing Alan's and goes down fighting to the last. 
3. If it was before this latest retcon crap that I HATE, it's a very even match IMHO with Kyle having the advantage of creativity, and Alan having the advantage of experience. Borderline call.
 
As to the Argument of will Alan actually has better feats than Hal. Feats such as opposing powerful mentalists like Brainwave who had in the same story assumed complete control of the JSA and core ASS). That feat was pre COIE but has been referenced since so I believe still canon. he's faced Mordu a few times (the only one of the mystic powers that Spectre was unable to kill at the end of the 9th age of magic). He single handedly faced Neron and the hordes of hell to free his wife's soul. Let's not forget that Alan has had to face loss and sacrifice more than almost any other comics hero and is still unwavering in his efforts to fight the good fight.

#39 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@beatboks1: So not one good thing about Hal in all of that? U Dismissed him from the fight rather quickly
#40 Posted by beatboks1 (4859 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:
" @beatboks1: So not one good thing about Hal in all of that? U Dismissed him from the fight rather quickly "
Hal in the silver age was a beast, currently not so much. Kyle and Alan both (in current continuity) have much greater feats. In Hal's hey day in the SA his will was indomitable, but considering he's been easily taken by Parallax (where as Kyle put up more of a fight) and Alan has fought the starheart for years. There is a lot more evidence that both actually have greater will than Hal. Both also have greater creativity. Kyle because of his more abstract thinking (the artist in him), Alan because of his engineering background (consider how for decades thought up ways around a very mundane weakness like wood before the writers removed it)
#41 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@beatboks1:  ahh..good explanation. Thanks. My friend who loves Hal Jordan isnt gonna like this hahaha
#42 Posted by MrDirector786 (41436 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

So then it's official that in this battle.... Hal is the biggest loser in last place..... :_( 
 
Excuse me.... I'm going to go cut myself now......

#43 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@MrDirector786: haha its ok..U could be an aquaman fan
#44 Posted by MrDirector786 (41436 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:
" @MrDirector786: haha its ok..U could be an aquaman fan "
I am an Aquaman fan. To be honest, I feel he's very underrated and I blame Superfriends for that. Aquaman is actually pretty strong. Not as strong as Superman, but he's definitely class 100 and has a few impressive feats.
#45 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@MrDirector786:  Speakin of that how do u find out that class 100 stuff. Where is all that at?
#46 Posted by termiteone4ever (6434 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

I would give it to Kyle 
Alan then HAl.  
I have liked Alan and respected him for years. Even Hal jordan. When i got back into green lantern i was just in time to see Kyle get the ring. I liked what he did even as a rookie. So IMO i am giving it to him.
#47 Posted by MrDirector786 (41436 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:
" @MrDirector786:  Speakin of that how do u find out that class 100 stuff. Where is all that at? "
Well, I think there are some handbooks and sites that state how strong some characters are and other times it's in their feats. I've seen a scan of Aquaman lifting a building while under water which tells me he's class 100.
#48 Posted by TheFlash4740 (1263 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@MrDirector786:  What can aqua man do when he's out of the water...
#49 Posted by MrDirector786 (41436 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:

" @MrDirector786:  What can aqua man do when he's out of the water... "

I've seen scans of him being bullet proof. I myself have actually started getting more acquainted with Aquaman. When I find some good stuff, I can show you. If you want to see the scan of him lifting a building, here's a link to it.
 
 http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/13925/294291-152531-aquaman_super.jpg
#50 Posted by Lil_Cal (172 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@TheFlash4740 said:

" @MrDirector786:  What can aqua man do when he's out of the water... "

He can mind rape people 
 


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