Just from general impressions, Cap should be slightly better than Guile in terms of strength and speed, about the same in skill, and substantially better in stamina. Yes, Guile and Nash were able to force Bison to retreat in Alpha 3, but I think that probably can be chalked up to them having such a good combination or PIS. Cap should beat him with or without his shield. Guile doesn't have the feats to go up against Cap.
Guile vs Captain America
Cap will do what Guile has Struggles with Kill M.Bison and then Tell him to live a little and hit Chun-Li for Once
@rozalia: I know this is old but that was a very low blow on cap lol. How could you sleep at night saying that?
Guile should win. I love Cap but Guile is basically Steve with ki amplification. He will keep up with Steve in close quarters, and I'm willing to say he would get past the Shield. Fighters whom were less have.
@vance_astro: Now that Guile has way more feats, how do ya feel about the match?
Here is some feats for Guile for others to measure him up.
Flash Kick
Flash Kick KOes Blanka, and Birdie with a single hit. Flash kick also ends the fight with Alex who wanted to beat Guile up, though Guile was holding back the whole fight.
Sonic Boom
Sonic Boom smashes stone. Stops Juri in mid attack. Guile throws several Sonic Booms on 12s (Meta Morphing Cyborgs), damaging each one with a hit, and blowing one up with a direct hit all together.
Cuts a wooden house nearly in half.
Flash Explosion
3 Flash kicks in a row. KOes Juri easy.
Some Guile Fights
Guile was so good at fighting to begin with, he mastered what Charlie taught him in a few months and match Charlie for a non stop day long fight. Best part of this feat is the speed we seen from Charlie.
As seen in the new game, Charlie speed was breath taking. In fact most Street Fighters speed is breath taking.
Guile casually takes our the power house Birdie.
Guile faces Vega and matches him fine.
Guile casually beats Blanka in a fight. Blanka gave base Ryu hell, as well gave Chun Li and Cammy's own Spec Ops team hell at the same time.
Bison beats Rolento handily by Flash Kicking him, and pulling the pin off his grenade at the same time.
Guile faces a angry Alex and beats him. Alex is the same guy who would later beat Gill himself in a fight.
Guile facing dozens of 12s (12 alone has feats of holding out against Dark Sakura, and Dhalsim fine) with both Cammy and Chun Li before being overwhelm.
Guile faces Bison's best fighter, Juri and beats her pretty decisively.
Guile is really one bad ass dude. The biggest obstacle is the Shield, but stat wise he compares to Cap every way in strength, speed, and durability. Skill is a two way street for arguments. Cap is insanely skilled, but Guile is not far behind with his win/loss record vs top tier SF fighters. Add to all this is Guile's energy attack in the form of Sonic Booms, Sonic Hurricane, Flash Kicks, and Flash Explosion attacks with his already formidable stats and skill.
@sirfizzwhizz I still think Cap would win. I agree with you that the shield is the biggest obstacle and the physically they are probably identical but I always thought that anyway. I just think skill wise Cap has the upper hand because unlike Wolverine he doesn't keep forgetting his training.
@vance_astro: That's understanable. What about Charlie? He seems a tier above Guile by older and recent feats.
@vance_astro: That's understanable. What about Charlie? He seems a tier above Guile by older and recent feats.
I haven't played SFV yet so i'll reserve my judgement until I can seen what the new Charlie can do.
Bump for more discussion.
If we are using Capcom produced feats for Guile, since SF canon is non existant anyway for the most part, then some more feats to consider that Capcom put out.
Guile blows up a car with a Sonic Boom. Guile blows up a warehouse with the power of his Sonic Boom. Guiles Sonic Boom plows through hundreds of feet of rock to escape the inside of a Mountain.
Guile is embedded in a rock wall, and shatters said wall to get out. Guile craters the ground good with Zangiefs head.
These next two feats are 100% canon as they are made directly for the SF4 Game.
Juri hits Guile with a energy attack, that blows through Guiles body, and the said energy still had power enough to blow up a large jet. Guile is not even KOed though hurtin.
These feats along with the rest above paint a clear picture of Guile super human level abilities, and attacks. He can wreck Cap for sure.
@vance_astro: dude Blanka's only formal training was from Dan Habiki, that's ANTI TRAINING BRO
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