Guardian vs Vulcan
Push said:
Guardian emits massive amounts of energy.Seems to me he would just be a power source for Vulcan.Also,Pointer is unstable like Sentry.U.S Agent was hanging with him.Vance Astro said: Probably Vulcan. Probably, but i'm gunning for Guardian/Michael! [more]
Vance Astro said:
Push said: Vance Astro said: Probably Vulcan. Probably, but i'm gunning for Guardian/Michael! [more] Guardian emits massive amounts of energy.Seems ... [more]
I know, I just don't like how they've pumped up Vulcan like he can do anything to anyone being a high end energy manipulater. I think he lacks skill and finess and is no less an emo boy than SBP, and just cause he can manipulate massive/all sorts of energy, doesn't make him invulnerable, just need to know where to go/look for the weak spots ;-)
Alpha said:
Not on the level he did when he was The Collective.This Guardian also absorbs mutant energy as well.
Alpha said:
Did you read Omega Flight?Vance Astro said: Alpha said: This Guardian also absorbs mutant energy as well. Not on the level he did when ... [more]
Push said:
If Vulcan can hurt Adam Warlock..Pointer doesn't have a chance.Vance Astro said: Push said: Vance Astro said: Probably Vulcan. Probably, but i'm gunning for Guardian/Michael! [more] Guardian emits massive ... [more]
Push said:
I haven't been reading War of the Kings either,I saw the scan of him hurting Adam in the "Official Look" thread or the "How do you Picture the other characters" thread,Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: This Guardian also absorbs mutant energy as well. Not on ... [more]
Alpha said:
What?Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: This Guardian also absorbs mutant energy as well. Not on ... [more]
Alpha said:
I have the entire Civil War catalog.I don't understand what you're trying to say.Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: This Guardian also absorbs mutant energy as well. Not on ... [more]
Micheal Pointer was depowered as Guardian.Yes,he can absorb energy and powers no matter what...but his abilities were weakened.
Alpha said:
If I recall correctly, didn't Vulcan blast him from behind, without Adam being aware he was even there or being confronted?Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: This Guardian also absorbs mutant energy as well. Not on ... [more]
@Alpha said:
"Vance Astro said:I have them and read them. It was his mutant power that allowed him to absorb the power. "Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: This Guardian also absorbs mutant energy as well. Not on the level he ... [more]
That's what I recall from memory, but as I said, I haven't read it since I first got it when it came out a few years ago. I was under the assumption Michael was a mutant who absorbed all the Mutant powers after House of M, and it was under his own power? He just lacked control and discipline and was very unexperienced.
Vance Astro said:
Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: This Guardian also absorbs mutant energy as well. ... [more]
Where did you see that it stated that he was weaken?
Of course he is not as powerful as the Collective cause he hasn't absorbed the much power since, but where did it say that he no longer can?
Push said:
Well he began to control the powers better toward the end of Omega Flight but he's still unstable.He's also still going up against a energy manipulator with no limit to how far he can PUSH it. :)Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: This Guardian also absorbs mutant energy as well. ... [more]
So far Vulcan has taken complete control of the entire Shi'ar Empire, and is looking to expand. What has Pointer done to date that even comes close to the things Vulcan has been doing consistently since he left Earth (or even before that)? Nothing? That's what I suspected. His most impressive feat is killing Alpha Flight, which he did unintentionally while pushed far beyond his normal limitations/range of power. Vulcan has more experience with his power, and enjoys killing. Pointer would hesitate, or pull his punches, and Vulcan would kill him.
Alpha said:
They ran tests on him.They clearly said he was weakened and he was shown to be weaker than the Collective.The Collective was walking energy.Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: This Guardian also absorbs mutant ... [more]
The Collective and Guardian are like Binary and Ms.Marvel.
Korg said:
So far Vulcan has taken complete control of the entire Shi'ar Empire, and is looking to expand. What has Pointer ... [more]
Can't really argue with that! But as you stated, it's more due to difference in attitude and experience in power! Michael lacks it, experience and the will to do damage/kill! If they both were bloodlusted, well, then it's anyones game!
Vance Astro said:
Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: This Guardian also ... [more]
The Collective is just what he was called after absorbing all that energy. The energy was taken away, therefore leaving him without it, therefore weaker.
Where did it say that he can't absorb that much energy again?
Alpha said:
I'll tear this down when the sun comes up.Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: ... [more]
Alpha said:
My worry is that Vulcan could prevent him from being able to absorb the energy by redirecting it away from ... [more]
And that's why Michael would lose.
Alpha said:
Ok.Guardians initial energy output is lower than that of Vulcan and from when he was the Collective,so without any power source..he cannot reach anywhere near Vulcan's level.Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: Vance Astro said: Alpha said: ... [more]
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