#1 Posted by Alpha (7329 posts) - - Show Bio



Michael Pointer

#2 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Vulcan.

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#3 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
Probably Vulcan.

Probably, but i'm gunning for Guardian/Michael!
#4 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Push said:
Vance Astro said: Probably Vulcan. Probably, but i'm gunning for Guardian/Michael! [more]
Guardian emits massive amounts of energy.Seems to me he would just be a power source for Vulcan.Also,Pointer is unstable like Sentry.U.S Agent was hanging with him.
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#5 Posted by Alpha (7329 posts) - - Show Bio

This Guardian also absorbs mutant energy as well.

#6 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
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I know, I just don't like how they've pumped up Vulcan like he can do anything to anyone being a high end energy manipulater.  I think he lacks skill and finess and is no less an emo boy than SBP, and just cause he can manipulate massive/all sorts of energy, doesn't make him invulnerable, just need to know where to go/look for the weak spots ;-)
#7 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
This Guardian also absorbs mutant energy as well.
Not on the level he did when he was The Collective.
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#8 Posted by Dane (10596 posts) - - Show Bio

Guardian can win with PIS power!

#9 Posted by Alpha (7329 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
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Why not? It was him that absorb all that power, not any side effect.
#10 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
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Did you read Omega Flight?
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#11 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Push said:
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If Vulcan can hurt Adam Warlock..Pointer doesn't have a chance.
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#12 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
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What did I miss? I'm trying to recall, haven't read it since it first came out.
#13 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Push said:
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I haven't been reading War of the Kings either,I saw the scan of him hurting Adam in the "Official Look" thread or the "How do you Picture the other characters" thread,
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#14 Edited by Alpha (7329 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
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I have them and read them. It was his mutant power that allowed him to absorb the power.
#15 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
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What?
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#16 Edited by Alpha (7329 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
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Did you read the Civil War : The Initiative?

The story where he was being studied by Reed and then Sasquatch.
#17 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
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I have the entire Civil War catalog.I don't understand what you're trying to say.
Micheal Pointer was depowered as Guardian.Yes,he can absorb energy and powers no matter what...but his abilities were weakened.
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#18 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
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If I recall correctly, didn't Vulcan blast him from behind, without Adam being aware he was even there or being confronted?

@Alpha said:
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Vance Astro said:
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I have them and read them. It was his mutant power that allowed him to absorb the power. "

That's what I recall from memory, but as I said, I haven't read it since I first got it when it came out a few years ago. I was under the assumption Michael was a mutant who absorbed all the Mutant powers after House of M, and it was under his own power? He just lacked control and discipline and was very unexperienced.
#19 Posted by Alpha (7329 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
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Where did you see that it stated that he was weaken?

Of course he is not as powerful as the Collective cause he hasn't  absorbed the much power since, but where did it say that he no longer can?
#20 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Push said:
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Well he began to control the powers better toward the end of Omega Flight but he's still unstable.He's also still going up against a energy manipulator with no limit to how far he can PUSH it. :)
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#21 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
So far Vulcan has taken complete control of the entire Shi'ar Empire, and is looking to expand. What has Pointer done to date that even comes close to the things Vulcan has been doing consistently since he left Earth (or even before that)? Nothing? That's what I suspected. His most impressive feat is killing Alpha Flight, which he did unintentionally while pushed far beyond his normal limitations/range of power. Vulcan has more experience with his power, and enjoys killing. Pointer would hesitate, or pull his punches, and Vulcan would kill him.
#22 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
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They ran tests on him.They clearly said he was weakened and he was shown to be weaker than the Collective.The Collective was walking energy.
The Collective and Guardian are like Binary and Ms.Marvel.
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#23 Posted by Alpha (7329 posts) - - Show Bio

My worry is that Vulcan could prevent him from being able to absorb the energy by redirecting it away from him.

#24 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
Korg said:
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Can't really argue with that! But as you stated, it's more due to difference in attitude and experience in power! Michael lacks it, experience and the will to do damage/kill! If they both were bloodlusted, well, then it's anyones game!
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Vance Astro said:
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Hah, well put! PUSH it, lol
#26 Posted by Alpha (7329 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
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The Collective is just what he was called after absorbing all that energy. The energy was taken away, therefore leaving him without it, therefore weaker.

Where did it say that he can't absorb that much energy again?
#27 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
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I'll tear this down when the sun comes up.
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#28 Posted by LordCosmicKing (2629 posts) - - Show Bio

vulcan ftw

#29 Posted by Alpha (7329 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
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I'll be waiting.
#30 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
My worry is that Vulcan could prevent him from being able to absorb the energy by redirecting it away from ... [more]

And that's why Michael would lose.
#31 Posted by Sovereign Vance (735 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
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Ok.Guardians initial energy output is lower than that of Vulcan and from when he was the Collective,so without any power source..he cannot reach anywhere near Vulcan's level.
#32 Posted by blazinasian112 (898 posts) - - Show Bio

vulcan

#33 Posted by MFrenzy11 (467 posts) - - Show Bio

vulcan