Grodd (no psionics) vs Beast
"wait how is grodd stronger or more durable? O_o
Grodd is far stronger and more durable......
Arguably smarter too........
Despite Beast's agility, Grodd should win.......
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just cause he fights flash or bn punched by superman doesnt actually mean he is either they just seriously hold back for godsakes the damn monkey has bn shot and beaten by the joker.
Grodd is way,way above even a regular Gorilla as he showed when he killed Monsieur Mallah..Even being shot a few times he still ended up killing him..
neither Mallah or grodd have any real strength showing to say that : /
this is basically circular logic
" @velle37 said:"wait how is grodd stronger or more durable? O_ojust cause he fights flash or bn punched by superman doesnt actually mean he is either they just seriously hold back for godsakes the damn monkey has bn shot and beaten by the joker. "
Grodd is far stronger and more durable......
Arguably smarter too........
Despite Beast's agility, Grodd should win.......
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He has strength feats far beyond Beast....
Along with durability (though this is fickle)......
When was he beaten by the Joker?
i think his highest strength feat is throwing a car through a building once..
He has strength feats far beyond Beast....
Along with durability (though this is fickle)......
When was he beaten by the Joker?
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here
missing scenes but you get the general idea of what happen
" neither Mallah or grodd have any real strength showing to say that : /this is basically circular logic "Pardon? being shot more than once & still be able to beat an adult Gorilla to death isnt a sign of strength?
" @velle37 said:i think his highest strength feat is throwing a car through a building once..
He has strength feats far beyond Beast....
Along with durability (though this is fickle)......
When was he beaten by the Joker?
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here missing scenes but you get the general idea of what happen "
Joker pushed Grodd off of a cliff (which interestingly enough the blogger in the link was explaining how physically Joker shouldn't have been able to do this)...
Not to mention that Grodd had been shot up, and was just in a battle with another super strong ape......
That hardly counts as "The Joker beat Grodd".....
Grodd's strength and durability feats are all over the map... but he has his best showings against the Flash, and since that's who he's a primary villian from they should be at least somewhat credibly. For strength some of the feats that stand out is he once threw a car through the 2nd story of a building. He bust through concrete walls fairly frequently as well. For Durability, as I said it's all over the place, but Flash once built up enough moment to hit Grodd so hard that he was launched and landed like, 3 states away. Sure it K.O.'d him, but that he actually /survived/ is impressive. I feel pretty safe in saying Hank couldn't survive an impact of that magnitude.
Grodd is definietly more durable then Beast is, being able to get pounded on by Flash and get right back up. He also fell a few hundred feet and was electrocuted and still got back up.
I'm not sure about who is physically stronger though, I believe Beast is between 10-25 ton range.
Here Grodd picks up a Beetle, about a ton, with one hand and throws it through a building.
Grodd is also smarter then Beast is.
" @castleking said:it counts cause it is funny and like others said grodd is just all over the place if we put him in the middle ground of his feats and ignore the low ones he still be arguable in strength and durability with beast.
Joker pushed Grodd off of a cliff (which interestingly enough the blogger in the link was explaining how physically Joker shouldn't have been able to do this)...
Not to mention that Grodd had been shot up, and was just in a battle with another super strong ape......
That hardly counts as "The Joker beat Grodd".....
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only reason i say grodd would win is cause beast is just jobbed too much in comics to seriously argue for him with his character depiction.
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