Grimlock v.s. Super Skrull

Grimlocks the one shaking optimus' hand. He has unbelieveable strength by transformers standards, his alt mode is a t-rex and in alt mode he can bite through all but the strongest of materials.

I don't know who would win then because superskrull has all the powers of the FF with torch's supernova and all.

Now lets try to compare strength levels. Grimlock has often thrown a tank to kingdom come that requires a great deal of strength say at the very least class 100. The thing has about class 85 strength. Super skrull is a notch stronger about class 95. Grimlock has also plucked thundercracker right out of the sky, with his teeth and after all thundercracker was moving at mach 2.8 and it is amazing that grimlock didnt immediately shatter.
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SoundWave07 says:

"acewasp23 says:

"I don't know who would win then because superskrull has all the powers of the FF with torch's supernova and all."

Hes mastered all their abilites right? Heres his abilties as far as his tech spec says! Strength: 10/10(it says second only to Optimus Prime ) Speed: 3/10 Intelligence: 7/10 Endurance: 10/10 Rank: 9/10 Courage: 10/10 Firepower: 8/10 Skill 10/10 Abilities __________ "Grimlock's strength is only second to Optimus Prime's, and even thats arguable. In Dinobot modehe can use his powerful jaws to snapin two virtually anything that comes between them- from 4-foot diameter steel cable to a Decepticon leg. In Autobot mode he wields an Energo-Sword, which can slice a 2foot thick concretewall with one sweep of its crackling blade. He also uses a double barrel self-propelled rocket launcher. Weakness ____________ Other than arrogance and lack of speed, Grimlock has no significant weaknesses."

yeah actually he has masterd all there abilites and is slightly more powerful with them as Megaguirus said he is slightly stronger and more durable than the thing plus his force fields are more durable than the invisible woman's, he can stretch farther than Mr. fantastic, and can burn hotter than the human torchm, he also has the skrull's natural shape shifting abilite.

if grimlock has class 2000 strength then if he gets his hands on skrully he's through however skrull can play keep away till grimlock runs out of energon.

SoundWave07 says:

"Well then how was it possible for them to be him?"

he's not as smart as Mr. fantastic the first time they fought the FF lost but after a little prep Mr. fantastic found a way to take him down. how did the FF hold off Galactus or stop most the people they do? its not because they're more powerfull its because they can out smart they're opponent.

SoundWave07 says:

"But then SuperSkrull can shape shift, so is there limit to that?"

all the skrulls can shapeshift. i dont know what there limit is but i know it hlps with healing.

SoundWave07 says:

"acewasp23 says:

"SoundWave07 says:

"Well then how was it possible for them to be him?"

he's not as smart as Mr. fantastic the first time they fought the FF lost but after a little prep Mr. fantastic found a way to take him down. how did the FF hold off Galactus or stop most the people they do? its not because they're more powerfull its because they can out smart they're opponent."

Yeah but first times a charm! So the first encounter is the only one that matters. If theres gonna be pre-time it should be for both combatants not just one."

yeah even if there is prep for the FF and the super skrull the FF would still have it Mr. Fantastic is one of the smartest people in marvel comics.

SoundWave07 says:

"Well then how does he have all 4 abilities but the rest can only have the ones of the indivisual they're imatating? "

look him up. the skrulls made him to be one of there Weapons lot like Weapon X.

SoundWave07 says:

"Hmmmm. If I was a skrull I would be like fV*** this! I can shapeshift into anything so..."

Not if it is over 1.25x its heigth at max and under 0.75x it's hieght at min. Besides if grimlock lands one blow then skurll's chest is caving in.

Megaguirus says:

"SoundWave07 says:

"Hmmmm. If I was a skrull I would be like fV*** this! I can shapeshift into anything so..."

Not if it is over 1.25x its heigth at max and under 0.75x it's hieght at min. Besides if grimlock lands one blow then skurll's chest is caving in."

lol yeah i guess it would cave in. hey any one see how much force it takes to put Mr. fantasic down he has taken hits for the thing with out getting the wind knocked out of him.

SoundWave07 says:

"HE actually is the dobleganger of Plastic Man so you have a point there."

yeah thast why i said it would be a toss up but im going to back super skrull if any thing for the supernova being hotter than the human torch's.

A class 2,000 hitting a man made of rubber. All rubber snaps from enough force. I am betting grimlock can do it with a 2,000 tons of force blow. It would be like multiple boeing 747 hitting you at once.

SoundWave07 says:

"so tell me Giant Godzilla Bug character how many feets is that?"

If you were ten feet tall you could only grow to a maximum of 12.5 feet or to a lower extreme of 7.5 feet. Any more than that and you are going into mass displacement territory.

SoundWave07 says:

"Megaguirus says:

"A class 2,000 hitting a man made of rubber. All rubber snaps from enough force. I am betting grimlock can do it with a 2,000 tons of force blow. It would be like multiple boeing 747 hitting you at once."

Is he stonger than Bruticus or Devastator then?"

no The combiners are always much stronger than normal transformers. Devastator is at least a class 10,000. Bruticus is at least a class 15,000.

Megaguirus says:

"A class 2,000 hitting a man made of rubber. All rubber snaps from enough force. I am betting grimlock can do it with a 2,000 tons of force blow. It would be like multiple boeing 747 hitting you at once."

yeah point but he would still have to hit him. he as fast as if not faster than the human torch he also has the durability of the thing to boot with the elasticity of Mr. fantastic and the force field of the invisible woman.

SoundWave07 says:

"Speed is the weakness to Grimlock. But it takes alot to bring him down."

yeah but how much heat can he take. i don't know how hot the super nova gets but i know its hotter tahn the torch's.

acewasp23 says:

"Megaguirus says:

"A class 2,000 hitting a man made of rubber. All rubber snaps from enough force. I am betting grimlock can do it with a 2,000 tons of force blow. It would be like multiple boeing 747 hitting you at once."

yeah point but he would still have to hit him. he as fast as if not faster than the human torch he also has the durability of the thing to boot with the elasticity of Mr. fantastic and the force field of the invisible woman."

I don't think thing level durability is going to save you from a pissed off grimlock. Especialy the energon sword. Grimlock will just have to reach out if skrull's circiling him and he will catch him and throw him into the ground and all of skrull's bones break.

acewasp23 says:

"SoundWave07 says:

"Speed is the weakness to Grimlock. But it takes alot to bring him down."

yeah but how much heat can he take. i don't know how hot the super nova gets but i know its hotter tahn the torch's."

Apparantly it takes tempretures in the extremes of thousands to melt a transformer (at the least 6,000+ degrees farenheight_

Megaguirus says:

"acewasp23 says:

"Megaguirus says:

"A class 2,000 hitting a man made of rubber. All rubber snaps from enough force. I am betting grimlock can do it with a 2,000 tons of force blow. It would be like multiple boeing 747 hitting you at once."

yeah point but he would still have to hit him. he as fast as if not faster than the human torch he also has the durability of the thing to boot with the elasticity of Mr. fantastic and the force field of the invisible woman."

I don't think thing level durability is going to save you from a pissed off grimlock. Especialy the energon sword. Grimlock will just have to reach out if skrull's circiling him and he will catch him and throw him into the ground and all of skrull's bones break."

yeah but thats if you can break them lol. doesn't really matter like i said it would come down to how much heat grimlock can take.

is grimlock stronger than omega supreme?

Megaguirus says:

"acewasp23 says:

"SoundWave07 says:

"Speed is the weakness to Grimlock. But it takes alot to bring him down."

yeah but how much heat can he take. i don't know how hot the super nova gets but i know its hotter tahn the torch's."

Apparantly it takes tempretures in the extremes of thousands to melt a transformer (at the least 6,000+ degrees farenheight_"

yeah and how hot is the torch's super nova?

acewasp23 says:

"Megaguirus says:

"acewasp23 says:

"Megaguirus says:

"A class 2,000 hitting a man made of rubber. All rubber snaps from enough force. I am betting grimlock can do it with a 2,000 tons of force blow. It would be like multiple boeing 747 hitting you at once."

yeah point but he would still have to hit him. he as fast as if not faster than the human torch he also has the durability of the thing to boot with the elasticity of Mr. fantastic and the force field of the invisible woman."

I don't think thing level durability is going to save you from a pissed off grimlock. Especialy the energon sword. Grimlock will just have to reach out if skrull's circiling him and he will catch him and throw him into the ground and all of skrull's bones break."

yeah but thats if you can break them lol. doesn't really matter like i said it would come down to how much heat grimlock can take. is grimlock stronger than omega supreme?"

I think supreme's a bit stronger due to size.

acewasp23 says:

"Megaguirus says:

"acewasp23 says:

"SoundWave07 says:

"Speed is the weakness to Grimlock. But it takes alot to bring him down."

yeah but how much heat can he take. i don't know how hot the super nova gets but i know its hotter tahn the torch's."

Apparantly it takes tempretures in the extremes of thousands to melt a transformer (at the least 6,000+ degrees farenheight_"

yeah and how hot is the torch's super nova?"

Last data I got was 4,000 degrees kelvin or was it farenheight.

Megaguirus says:

"acewasp23 says:

"Megaguirus says:

"acewasp23 says:

"Megaguirus says:

"A class 2,000 hitting a man made of rubber. All rubber snaps from enough force. I am betting grimlock can do it with a 2,000 tons of force blow. It would be like multiple boeing 747 hitting you at once."

yeah point but he would still have to hit him. he as fast as if not faster than the human torch he also has the durability of the thing to boot with the elasticity of Mr. fantastic and the force field of the invisible woman."

I don't think thing level durability is going to save you from a pissed off grimlock. Especialy the energon sword. Grimlock will just have to reach out if skrull's circiling him and he will catch him and throw him into the ground and all of skrull's bones break."

yeah but thats if you can break them lol. doesn't really matter like i said it would come down to how much heat grimlock can take. is grimlock stronger than omega supreme?"

I think supreme's a bit stronger due to size. "

yeah i alwase like supreme i like the new one a lot more.

Megaguirus says:

"acewasp23 says:

"Megaguirus says:

"acewasp23 says:

"SoundWave07 says:

"Speed is the weakness to Grimlock. But it takes alot to bring him down."

yeah but how much heat can he take. i don't know how hot the super nova gets but i know its hotter tahn the torch's."

Apparantly it takes tempretures in the extremes of thousands to melt a transformer (at the least 6,000+ degrees farenheight_"

yeah and how hot is the torch's super nova?"

Last data I got was 4,000 degrees kelvin or was it farenheight."

Lol has to be kelvin degrees doesn't sound hot enough for a supernova.

ok so who was the winner here

SoundWave07 says:

"Well thats what i'm trying to find out? I mean he can become almost any charcter with in 12 ft so that means anyone! "

who is he, super skrull? yeah he can shape shift but that doesn't mean that he takes on there powers or properties(like adamantium). i think it would come down to the super nova.

SoundWave07 says:

"Well, I don't think even for how slow Grimlock will let that happen. Unless SS seals him in a barrier then goes Supernova. It all depends on the scenerio! "

yeah it would be something to see though.