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#1  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Sorry if this has been done before.

Grifter

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Midnighter

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#2  Edited By crazy spidey

well midnighter's cooler, so I'm gonna say him

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#3  Edited By Apparition

does grifter have his psionic powers in this fight?

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#4  Edited By Akira Overdrive

To me the deciding factor is if Grifter has his Psionic powers

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#5  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Apparition says:

"does grifter have his psionic powers in this fight?"

Didn't he lose those? Whatever the characters are working with now, thats what we'll roll wit.

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#6  Edited By Donnieman v5.1

To my knowledge Grifter has regained his powers

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#7  Edited By Apparition

Gambler says:

"Apparition says:
"does grifter have his psionic powers in this fight?"
Didn't he lose those? Whatever the characters are working with now, thats what we'll roll wit."

ok but i just saw this on his page

Note: As of Grifter/Midnighter #1, which takes place after the Worldstorm relaunch, Grifter has apparently regained control of his psychic powers and can use them unaided. A side effect of the Gen chemical is accelerated healing, he once recovered from a broken neck and shattered legs without any scaring. The healing factor also slows his aging.

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#8  Edited By crazy spidey

i dunno midnighter seems kinda like god to me wiht all his powers.

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#9  Edited By Akira Overdrive

Yeah i remember reading that...Grifter wins,not only does he have Psych powers he has cool guns to

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#10  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

He has them now but they won't be enough.

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#11  Edited By Apparition

Buckshot says:

"He has them now but they won't be enough. "

really? telekinesis isnt enough? is it limited telekinesis or something? cause i would think that power would be enough to get around midnighter's computer.

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#12  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Akira Overdrive says:

"Yeah i remember reading that...Grifter wins,not only does he have Psych powers he has cool guns to"

Buckshot says:

"He has them now but they won't be enough. "
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#13  Edited By Akira Overdrive

Buckshot says:

"He has them now but they won't be enough. "

Whys that?

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#15  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

Apparition says:

"really? telekinesis isnt enough? is it limited telekinesis or something? cause i would think that power would be enough to get around midnighter's computer."

So far he's only used his TK to move his guns through the air independent of his body, and he doesn't use this much anyway. Don't know if it's difficult for him, if he doesn't like it or if he's just not used to it yet. Midnighter had him beat recently (in the Grifter/Midnighter comic) even after his TK was restored (and he killed him before that in Armageddon). Grifter's other psionic abilities allow him to control minds, but it requires a little bit of time and for the subject to hear Grifter's voice.

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#16  Edited By Static Shock

Gambler says:

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LMAO!

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Buckshot says:

"Apparition says:
" really? telekinesis isnt enough? is it limited telekinesis or something? cause i would think that power would be enough to get around midnighter's computer."
So far he's only used his TK to move his guns through the air independent of his body, and he doesn't use this much anyway. Don't know if it's difficult for him, if he doesn't like it or if he's just not used to it yet. Midnighter had him beat recently (in the Grifter/Midnighter comic) even after his TK was restored (and he killed him before that in Armageddon). Grifter's other psionic abilities allow him to control minds, but it requires a little bit of time and for the subject to hear Grifter's voice. "

oh well then nevermind. if that's all his psionics can do then midnighter definitely would win.

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#18  Edited By Static Shock

This seems like a good battle, but I can't vouch or against neither one of them. Not into Wildstorm like that. Don't know much about Midnighter, and I remember Grifter from the WildC.A.T.s cartoon, and I had one WildC.A.T.s comic back in the third grade...

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#19  Edited By Ktyure

Even though I like Grifter much better, I'm going to have to go with Midnighter due to the fact he can calculate millions of combat scenarios in a second and beat Grifter pretty bad in Captain Atom Armageddon before.

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I want to say Grifter but this is hard for me to decide.

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#21  Edited By King_Saturn
I think Midnighter may beat Grifter here. But this is a solid fight...
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#22  Edited By Kentaxx

Midnighter

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#23  Edited By darktiger

don't know who takes this one

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#24  Edited By darktiger

got to go with grifter

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if cole had his powers to there fullest he would stomp in seconds.

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grifter stomps at full power the only thing stopping him in the first place is he doesn't like to use his powers he gets over that he kills midnighter

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Midnighter.

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grifter

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#33 morpheus_  Moderator

They've fought twice already pre-N52. Grifter held on surprisingly well in Grifter/Midnighter, but Midnighter slapped him around and snapped his wrists in Captain Atom: Armageddon.

Realistically, you need someone like fully powered Backlash or Nemesis from the WS-verse to take on Midnighter. And without plot, even that might not be enough.

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grifter actually had the upper hand in there fight in the grifter/midnighter comic

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if grifter has his powers he wins without pis if not midnighter easily

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Replied 4 times

Nobody cares

OT midnighter

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@huko said:

Replied 4 times

Nobody cares

OT midnighter

ok comment police and if you don't care why comment i was letting this die again until you revived it

and there is no way he beats grifter with his tp tk he was losing that fight in grifter/midnighter and thats after he got the drop on grifter

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@huko:

@huko said:

Replied 4 times

Nobody cares

OT midnighter

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grifter gained the upper hand and was pounding mindighter face in until  they got interrupted
grifter gained the upper hand and was pounding mindighter face in until they got interrupted

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@comic_book_fan: first of all I am well aware of these scans

Second I didn't ask scans to begain with

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@huko said:

@comic_book_fan: first of all I am well aware of these scans

Second I didn't ask scans to begain with

lol then how could you see this as a win for midnighter and if you didn't want to debate then don't post an obvious response to me and then post an opinion opposing me other wise i will respond back trying to prove my point as in the point of the site

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#46  Edited By HukO

@comic_book_fan said:
@huko said:

@comic_book_fan: first of all I am well aware of these scans

Second I didn't ask scans to begain with

lol then how could you see this as a win for midnighter and if you didn't want to debate then don't post an obvious response to me and then post an opinion opposing me other wise i will respond back trying to prove my point as in the point of the site

because i wanted to see how you would response . you took the bait

i am well aware grifter has many advantage against midnighter to win a fight

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anyone who thinks Grifter actually has a chance against Trent doesn't remember how Grifters fight with Zealot went

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@warlockmage: Between Zealot and Midnighter who is actually Supreior?