Green Lantern Vs Quasar

" now you are comparing gladz to superboy? WTF man!?! "

" so many accounts... cant tell who is who... or is it the same person
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" @King Saturn said:

" so many accounts... cant tell who is who... or is it the same person
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i know that they are all you.  :P "

Alpha Lanterns are not Green Lanterns. They have as much in common with Manhunters.
I'll repeat what I posted on the last page: pick a Lantern other than Hal and post that GL's 5 top feats as I did with Quasar and we'll compare the two. 
We all know Wendell could easily beat Guy or John, you haven't even argued the point. You just bring up Hal in almost every other post. I get it, he's the greatest.
If you think Gladiator is a watered down Superboy, then clearly you have a DC bias. Like I said, Quasar is basically a hero Sinestro. In single combat no one GL could take on Sinestro and have any hope of winning (other than Hal). If you feel otherwise, proove me wrong.

Starblast is really much less valid than JLA/Avengers.

Wendell beating Guy or John? Aint gonna happen..especially with Wendells track record.. you haven't made a case for Wendell either

You don't have to be DC biased to think that Gladiator is a watered down Superboy..because any version of Superboy would kick the crap out of him...and the fact that Gladz was able to bust Quasars constructs is even more proof that their weak compared to a Lanterns constructs..WW and Superman..2 beings vastly superior to Gladz in physical strenght were barely able to blemish John's constructs in rebirth

Quasar is basically a hero Sinestro...says you? Sinestro would beat Quasar also...so would the Honor Guards ...

And if you actually believe that Gladiator is anywhere near Supermans level..I suggest you get off the rocks

Back up your arguments with facts. You've said quite a few times that Quasar would just lose to any of the Honor Guard, but when I've repeatedly asked you to pick any Lantern other than Hal and list their top 5 feats to contrast against Quasar you've consistantly failed to deliver.

Sure, Quasar has had his construct destroyed by Gladiator but he's not as weak as you make him out. In a recent issue of War of Kings the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Star-Jamers were all convinced he was capable of killing every member of both teams. That isn't the reputation of a watered-down Superboy. Besides, Quasar's constructs have stood up to the likes of Galactus, Thanos w/ the Infinity Guantlet, and as pictured on the previous page Hulk, Thor, She-Hulk, Colossus, Wolverine, Hercules, Havok, Thing, Cyclops, Human Torch, Ice-Man, Warpath, Wonderman, Jean Grey, Rogue, and Sasquach all at once (Drax the Destroyer with his Power Gem was even depicted as attacking the construct from within). Hulk, Thor, She-Hulk, and Hercules by themselves trump the Superman and Wonder Woman feat.  As I said Starblast is not terribly valid and has been ignored by continuity since then. I mean otherwise I'd just bring up that Kyle got his ring taken away from him by Mr. Majestic as though he was a little kid being punished.

Gladiator is meant to be an allegory for Superboy (or Mon-El depending on who you ask) He should be depicted as just as powerful, but the reason he isn't is because it would raise the question of why the Imperial Guard hasn't just conquered Earth yet. Gladiator is consistantly depicted as on par with the Silver Surfer (pre-Annihilation).

Sinestro consistantly beats all of the Green Lanterns except for Hal. Quasar is capable of the same. You have yet to proove otherwise.

He needs multiple accounts so its seems like more people agree with him. ;)

"Back up your arguments with facts. You've said quite a few times that Quasar would just lose to any of the Honor Guard, but when I've repeatedly asked you to pick any Lantern other than Hal and list their top 5 feats to contrast against Quasar you've consistantly failed to deliver. Sure, Quasar has had his construct destroyed by Gladiator but he's not as weak as you make him out. In a recent issue of War of Kings the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Star-Jamers were all convinced he was capable of killing every member of both teams. That isn't the reputation of a watered-down Superboy. Besides, Quasar's constructs have stood up to the likes of Galactus, Thanos w/ the Infinity Guantlet, and as pictured on the previous page Hulk, Thor, She-Hulk, Colossus, Wolverine, Hercules, Havok, Thing, Cyclops, Human Torch, Ice-Man, Warpath, Wonderman, Jean Grey, Rogue, and Sasquach all at once (Drax the Destroyer with his Power Gem was even depicted as attacking the construct from within). Hulk, Thor, She-Hulk, and Hercules by themselves trump the Superman and Wonder Woman feat.  As I said Starblast is not terribly valid and has been ignored by continuity since then. I mean otherwise I'd just bring up that Kyle got his ring taken away from him by Mr. Majestic as though he was a little kid being punished.Gladiator is meant to be an allegory for Superboy (or Mon-El depending on who you ask) He should be depicted as just as powerful, but the reason he isn't is because it would raise the question of why the Imperial Guard hasn't just conquered Earth yet. Gladiator is consistantly depicted as on par with the Silver Surfer (pre-Annihilation).Sinestro consistantly beats all of the Green Lanterns except for Hal. Quasar is capable of the same. You have yet to proove otherwise. "

" @Satyrquaze said:

"Back up your arguments with facts. You've said quite a few times that Quasar would just lose to any of the Honor Guard, but when I've repeatedly asked you to pick any Lantern other than Hal and list their top 5 feats to contrast against Quasar you've consistantly failed to deliver. Sure, Quasar has had his construct destroyed by Gladiator but he's not as weak as you make him out. In a recent issue of War of Kings the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Star-Jamers were all convinced he was capable of killing every member of both teams. That isn't the reputation of a watered-down Superboy. Besides, Quasar's constructs have stood up to the likes of Galactus, Thanos w/ the Infinity Guantlet, and as pictured on the previous page Hulk, Thor, She-Hulk, Colossus, Wolverine, Hercules, Havok, Thing, Cyclops, Human Torch, Ice-Man, Warpath, Wonderman, Jean Grey, Rogue, and Sasquach all at once (Drax the Destroyer with his Power Gem was even depicted as attacking the construct from within). Hulk, Thor, She-Hulk, and Hercules by themselves trump the Superman and Wonder Woman feat.  As I said Starblast is not terribly valid and has been ignored by continuity since then. I mean otherwise I'd just bring up that Kyle got his ring taken away from him by Mr. Majestic as though he was a little kid being punished.Gladiator is meant to be an allegory for Superboy (or Mon-El depending on who you ask) He should be depicted as just as powerful, but the reason he isn't is because it would raise the question of why the Imperial Guard hasn't just conquered Earth yet. Gladiator is consistantly depicted as on par with the Silver Surfer (pre-Annihilation).Sinestro consistantly beats all of the Green Lanterns except for Hal. Quasar is capable of the same. You have yet to proove otherwise. "

Honestly i think an impasse has been reached here. That an i think you're completely and utterly wrong on how Quasar stacks up against GL's (i see no difference in power, just experience and skill) but am def too lazy to debate w/ you about it. "

" He needs multiple accounts so its seems like more people agree with him. ;) "

" Back up your arguments with facts. You've said quite a few times that Quasar would just lose to any of the Honor Guard, but when I've repeatedly asked you to pick any Lantern other than Hal and list their top 5 feats to contrast against Quasar you've consistantly failed to deliver. Sure, Quasar has had his construct destroyed by Gladiator but he's not as weak as you make him out. In a recent issue of War of Kings the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Star-Jamers were all convinced he was capable of killing every member of both teams. That isn't the reputation of a watered-down Superboy. Besides, Quasar's constructs have stood up to the likes of Galactus, Thanos w/ the Infinity Guantlet, and as pictured on the previous page Hulk, Thor, She-Hulk, Colossus, Wolverine, Hercules, Havok, Thing, Cyclops, Human Torch, Ice-Man, Warpath, Wonderman, Jean Grey, Rogue, and Sasquach all at once (Drax the Destroyer with his Power Gem was even depicted as attacking the construct from within). Hulk, Thor, She-Hulk, and Hercules by themselves trump the Superman and Wonder Woman feat.  As I said Starblast is not terribly valid and has been ignored by continuity since then. I mean otherwise I'd just bring up that Kyle got his ring taken away from him by Mr. Majestic as though he was a little kid being punished.Gladiator is meant to be an allegory for Superboy (or Mon-El depending on who you ask) He should be depicted as just as powerful, but the reason he isn't is because it would raise the question of why the Imperial Guard hasn't just conquered Earth yet. Gladiator is consistantly depicted as on par with the Silver Surfer (pre-Annihilation).Sinestro consistantly beats all of the Green Lanterns except for Hal. Quasar is capable of the same. You have yet to proove otherwise. "

Let me get this straight:

What you're basically saying is, DC = top tier.  Marvel = weak ass. ?

Am I picking up the jist?

No I am saying that Gladiator is in no way shape or form Supermans equal or even close
Supes and WW were able to move 2/3 of the entire Earth...characters like She Hulk don't even come close

The thread isn't about Gladiator or Supes or even WW. If that's your point then... you're posting the wrong thread.

I do agree we're at an impasse so I made the effort to tabulate the votes in cluding the previous thread linked on the first page of this thread.

I ingnored repeat posters who had already voted. 

I counted anyone who said Quasar could take out every other GL except Hal or Kyle as a vote in Quasar's favor since he's being descibed as being capable of defeating 7198 GLs but falling short against the most powerful 2 (which is in mind pretty much where Sinestro is). You'll remember in my inital post

In the previous thread it was Hal Jordan: 5 and Quasar (Wendell Vaughn): 7

In this thread it was "Green Lantern" (meant to represent one of the Green Lantern Corps): 7 and Quasar (meant to represent Wendell Vaughn): 7

I'm prepared to call it a tie for this thread.

" The thread isn't about Gladiator or Supes or even WW. If that's your point then... you're posting the wrong thread. "

" I do agree we're at an impasse so I made the effort to tabulate the votes in cluding the previous thread linked on the first page of this thread.I ingnored repeat posters who had already voted. I counted anyone who said Quasar could take out every other GL except Hal or Kyle as a vote in Quasar's favor since he's being descibed as being capable of defeating 7198 GLs but falling short against the most powerful 2 (which is in mind pretty much where Sinestro is). You'll remember in my inital postIn the previous thread it was Hal Jordan: 5 and Quasar (Wendell Vaughn): 7In this thread it was "Green Lantern" (meant to represent one of the Green Lantern Corps): 7 and Quasar (meant to represent Wendell Vaughn): 7I'm prepared to call it a tie for this thread. "

@Johnny_Blazed said:

@Satyrquaze said:
It isnt a tie..Quasar cant beat any top Lantern that includes Hal Kyle John Guy Salaak Kilowag...you can concede if you like though "

Over half the people who have voted (through the two threads) believe he can.
Why would I concede? Quasar is winning according to the vote. (any Green Lartern: 12 to Quasar: 14)

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@Johnny_Blazed said:

@Satyrquaze said:
It isnt a tie..Quasar cant beat any top Lantern that includes Hal Kyle John Guy Salaak Kilowag...you can concede if you like though "

Over half the people who have voted (through the two threads) believe he can.
Why would I concede? Quasar is winning according to the vote. (any Green Lartern: 12 to Quasar: 14)

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Yellow would effect the ring depending which GL. But besides that the one flaw in all weapons is the user. Quasar doesn't have the mental instabilities that Hal and Kyle have suffered. Quasar is a true hero without a doubt plus he doesn't need to recharge his Quantum Bands. A complete and infinite power source.

I give Quasar a slight edge, he's a cosmic brick who went one on one with the big guys like Surfer and unlike the GL rings the bands don't run out of juice.  Quasar has some very interesting feats,  taking on the Phoenix and the Watchers and the Quantum Bands can also siphon, manipulate or drain away energies. The Bands also do not depend on will power your press the trigger and bang the opponent in front of you is dead.
 
Should be an interesting fight, Kyle or Hal would give him hell, they are the best GL's out there but I'm not sure they can beat him

"I give Quasar a slight edge, he's a cosmic brick who went one on one with the big guys like Surfer and unlike the GL rings the bands don't run out of juice.  Quasar has some very interesting feats,  taking on the Phoenix and the Watchers and the Quantum Bands can also siphon, manipulate or drain away energies. The Bands also do not depend on will power your press the trigger and bang the opponent in front of you is dead. Should be an interesting fight, Kyle or Hal would give him hell, they are the best GL's out there but I'm not sure they can beat him "

"Yellow would effect the ring depending which GL. But besides that the one flaw in all weapons is the user. Quasar doesn't have the mental instabilities that Hal and Kyle have suffered. Quasar is a true hero without a doubt plus he doesn't need to recharge his Quantum Bands. A complete and infinite power source. "

Quasar all the way..plus he has more fine control and his bands don't run out of power like a Green Lantern ring does. I love them all but I'll put my money on Quasar.

" @Satyrquaze said:

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In no particular order...

Strength of Energy Constructs: Quasar has stalemated Galactus by shielding the FF from Galactus' eye-blasts with a energy construct. (FF #522)

Speed: "Rookie" Quasar flew from New York Harbor to the Sea of Tranquility in under 5 minutes. (no "hyperspace", no quantum-jumping) Avengers Annual #18)

Strength Enchancement: "Rookie" Quasar (quantum-enchanced) punched a Watcher (not Uatu), knocking the Watcher on his ass. This is notable for a couple of reasons, chiefly although the Watchers are indeed passive they are only a level under Galactus in terms of power. Secondly, Quasar is something of a pacifist himself. (Quasar #15)

Energy Absorbtion: "Rookie" Quasar absorbed and channeled the entirety of a star's power. Cosmic heroes and villains talk all the time about hitting someone with the power of a star. Here, Quasar shows that not only is he really capable of it, but manages to return the star to it's natural state showing a level of control and will-power arguably unmatched anywhere in the Marvel Universe. (Quasar #16)

General Power: During a fight with the Silver Surfer, Quasar restrained himself out of fear of hurting the Surfer. (Quasar #50)

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He didn't technically stalemate galactus...He stalemated the phoenix though! "

Any o f the top Lanterns would win

Wasn't Quazar the Defender of the Universe a long time before Kyle was a GL? how does he have more experience?
 
Isn't the Quantum Bands connected to Eon or Epoch? surely they would act as something close to the GL "computer" system.
 
Didn't Wendell contain Ego the living planet within him using the Quantum Force? surely this speaks to his willpower. Having to be on guard all day every day should take a fair bit of Will.
 
As for Superman and Wonderwoman being stronger than everyone in the Marvel U. Can we not get into that, I know people consider it gospel but it is just going to send this list int oan even worse spiral.

Maybe when Quasar can get past a watered down version of Superboy, I might give him more credit LOL

 Quasar wins, in a close fight
 

@Psyker star

" Silver surfer could take Vulcan and Quasar is to powerful for GL IMO "

Quasar can beat G'nort in a close fight

" I thought Quasar absorbs energy if he wants to, wouldn't that just drain a power ring making him win.  "

definetly green lantern

I would like to say Quasar, but I am a marvel fan so.....anyways I could see it going either way or possibly a tie

Depends on the Lantern a good Lantern like Kyle would give Quasar a really difficult fight

@castleking said:

quasar ftw via energy drain imo.

yeah maybe Quasar wins, but some Lanterns could make the fight very close

Quasar.

Quasar handedly. Quantum Bands are better than power rings

I am not seen Qusar been HAl on a serious day

GL

Quasar.If GL is Hal then I will back him.

Quasar handedly. Quantum Bands are better than power rings

@YoungGunna said:

@lectriccolossus said:

Quasar handedly. Quantum Bands are better than power rings

Ugh, no there not...

Green Lantern rings are far more versatile - You'll never see Quasar manipulating or replicating energies outside of the electric magnetic spectrum, hold together the continents of Earth, TRAVEL light speed, manipulate matter, replicate psionics, increase his physical strength directly (the one person to do that has now been retconned as using synthetic bands), alter genetics/biology, travel through or stop time. All of these are things that a competent Green Lantern can/will do.

They also seem to be more powerful - capable of moving planets out of orbit or destroying them, shrinking planets to the size of marbles, protecting against the heat of the core of the sun (both Wendell and Phyla have feared death from just the sun's photosphere), etc.

One thing that the bands do have going for them is the no recharge bit, which is indeed excellent. Wendell used them to absorb energy quite a bit, something that isn't true of most GL's and their rings but unlike Quasar, Lanterns can actually manipulate energy OUTSIDE of the EM spectrum.

is Wendell Vaughn a match for Hal Jordon or Kyle Rayner?

For Kyle Rayner, I think yes, it's be a good fight with Kyle coming out ahead a bit. Against Hal Jordan, I think Hal wins 7-8/10.

Didn't phyla manipulate soul energy?

@YoungGunna said:

@lectriccolossus said:

Quasar handedly. Quantum Bands are better than power rings

Ugh, no there not...

Green Lantern rings are far more versatile - You'll never see Quasar manipulating or replicating energies outside of the electric magnetic spectrum, hold together the continents of Earth, TRAVEL light speed, manipulate matter, replicate psionics, increase his physical strength directly (the one person to do that has now been retconned as using synthetic bands), alter genetics/biology, travel through or stop time. All of these are things that a competent Green Lantern can/will do.

They also seem to be more powerful - capable of moving planets out of orbit or destroying them, shrinking planets to the size of marbles, protecting against the heat of the core of the sun (both Wendell and Phyla have feared death from just the sun's photosphere), etc.

One thing that the bands do have going for them is the no recharge bit, which is indeed excellent. Wendell used them to absorb energy quite a bit, something that isn't true of most GL's and their rings but unlike Quasar, Lanterns can actually manipulate energy OUTSIDE of the EM spectrum.

is Wendell Vaughn a match for Hal Jordon or Kyle Rayner?

For Kyle Rayner, I think yes, it's be a good fight with Kyle coming out ahead a bit. Against Hal Jordan, I think Hal wins 7-8/10.

Didn't phyla manipulate soul energy?

@YoungGunna said:

@vuviper said:

@YoungGunna said:

@lectriccolossus said:

Quasar handedly. Quantum Bands are better than power rings

Ugh, no there not...

Green Lantern rings are far more versatile - You'll never see Quasar manipulating or replicating energies outside of the electric magnetic spectrum, hold together the continents of Earth, TRAVEL light speed, manipulate matter, replicate psionics, increase his physical strength directly (the one person to do that has now been retconned as using synthetic bands), alter genetics/biology, travel through or stop time. All of these are things that a competent Green Lantern can/will do.

They also seem to be more powerful - capable of moving planets out of orbit or destroying them, shrinking planets to the size of marbles, protecting against the heat of the core of the sun (both Wendell and Phyla have feared death from just the sun's photosphere), etc.

One thing that the bands do have going for them is the no recharge bit, which is indeed excellent. Wendell used them to absorb energy quite a bit, something that isn't true of most GL's and their rings but unlike Quasar, Lanterns can actually manipulate energy OUTSIDE of the EM spectrum.

is Wendell Vaughn a match for Hal Jordon or Kyle Rayner?

For Kyle Rayner, I think yes, it's be a good fight with Kyle coming out ahead a bit. Against Hal Jordan, I think Hal wins 7-8/10.

Didn't phyla manipulate soul energy?

No, not that I can recall of...

Okay I think The Gl's either one would beat Quasar. Now if the GL rings have the yellow weakness it would take sometime, and be a very difficult battle. I think maybe Guy Gardner would lose to Quasar with the yellow weakness. ( A little biased, don't really like Guy like that) But I think the GL's would win.

@YoungGunna: Well she was able to utilize it,

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