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- This is Hal Jordan, Pre Flashpoint of Hal and Cold

- No prep, standard equipment for Cold

- In character, who wins and why?

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Huge mismatch.

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Hal stomps

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#4 juiceboks  Moderator

You'd think someone of your post count wouldn't make such a big mismatch..

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You'd think someone of your post count wouldn't make such a big mismatch..

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That's a total mismatch. Hal would basicly rapestomp CapCold. CC doesn't stand a chance

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In character? I think if they started off at a decent distance it could be okay.

@thetruebarryallen thoughts sir?

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@iragexcudder Hal can negate Snart's Cold Field. He has no chance.

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#9  Edited By TheTrueBarryAllen

@dondave said:

@iragexcudder Hal can negate Snart's Cold Field. He has no chance.

What DD said - Cold's gonna get stomped, and hard.

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You'd think someone of your post count wouldn't make such a big mismatch..

I was pretty sure it's a mismatch, but I've seen many times people saying that Cold could beat most of Justice Leaguers, and I'm not that knowledgable about him, so I thought why not make a battle?

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@bigcimmerian You should have used the Battles Ideas Thread first.

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#12 juiceboks  Moderator

@juiceboks said:

You'd think someone of your post count wouldn't make such a big mismatch..

I was pretty sure it's a mismatch, but I've seen many times people saying that Cold could beat most of Justice Leaguers, and I'm not that knowledgable about him, so I thought why not make a battle?

What DD said. Cold can't beat most Justice Leaguers anyway..at least not the ones everyone knows.

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@dondave said:

@bigcimmerian You should have used the Battles Ideas Thread first.

How could Hal go through his cold field?

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@iragexcudder Release temperatures as hot as the Sun or just destroy his guns before he can do anything.

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@dondave said:

@iragexcudder Release temperatures as hot as the Sun or just destroy his guns before he can do anything.

Why doesn't Wally snatch his guns before he fires them?

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#18 juiceboks  Moderator

@dondave said:

@iragexcudder Release temperatures as hot as the Sun or just destroy his guns before he can do anything.

Why doesn't Wally snatch his guns before he fires them?

Because depending on the circumstance he may not have time to?

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@bigcimmerian said:

@dondave said:

@iragexcudder Release temperatures as hot as the Sun or just destroy his guns before he can do anything.

Why doesn't Wally snatch his guns before he fires them?

Because depending on the circumstance he may not have time to?

He has attosecond reaction speed. All the time in the world.

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@dondave said:

@bigcimmerian By increasing the temperature of the Cold Field

It's absolute zero, are you sure that he can do that?

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@juiceboks said:

@bigcimmerian said:

@dondave said:

@iragexcudder Release temperatures as hot as the Sun or just destroy his guns before he can do anything.

Why doesn't Wally snatch his guns before he fires them?

Because depending on the circumstance he may not have time to?

He has attosecond reaction speed. All the time in the world.

Because he always moves at those speeds...

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@bigcimmerian: I absolutely agree. Hasn't cold dealt with ridiculously high temps?

Has Hal dealt with (i dont know if this is right so don't yell at me) absolute zero? I'm sure he has but has he?

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#24 juiceboks  Moderator

@juiceboks said:

@bigcimmerian said:

@dondave said:

@iragexcudder Release temperatures as hot as the Sun or just destroy his guns before he can do anything.

Why doesn't Wally snatch his guns before he fires them?

Because depending on the circumstance he may not have time to?

He has attosecond reaction speed. All the time in the world.

Do you not understand how comics work? Not to mention this is neither here nor relevant..

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@bigcimmerian It's only absolute Zero when it's at a set temperature. Increasing the temperature removes the qualities Absolute Zero brings.

A blast as hot as the Sun will do that.

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@iragexcudder He's been stalemated by Heatwave and he's doesn't produce anything near the temperature of the Sun.

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#28  Edited By Iragexcudder

@dondave: Hal is in character though, he'd try to suppress Cold before anything

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@dondave said:

@bigcimmerian It's only absolute Zero when it's at a set temperature. Increasing the temperature removes the qualities Absolute Zero brings.

A blast as hot as the Sun will do that.

I didn't know he has blasts as hot as the sun. Do you have any scan or issue number or can you explain the situation in which he used it?

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In before the lock. Hal annihilates.

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Hal is a special case. Where Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Cyborg would fail, Hal's ring should let him bypass the cold field.

Hal should win with a punch to the face.

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@iragexcudder He doesn't have to kill him. Just negate the Cold Field and knock him out. Although even in character Hal doesn't really have a problem killing people.

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#33  Edited By dondave
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#34  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

Hal is a special case. Where Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Cyborg would fail, Hal's ring should let him bypass the cold field.

Hal should win with a punch to the face.

Both of these characters have ways of beating Snart without actually getting near him.

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@nickthedevil said:

Hal is a special case. Where Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Cyborg would fail, Hal's ring should let him bypass the cold field.

Hal should win with a punch to the face.

Both of these characters have ways of beating Snart without actually getting near him.

Doubtful.

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@nickthedevil said:

Hal is a special case. Where Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Cyborg would fail, Hal's ring should let him bypass the cold field.

Hal should win with a punch to the face.

Both of these characters have ways of beating Snart without actually getting near him.

I doubt too, they can't go through absolute zero, it stops all movement, maybe Clark could use heat vision to increase the temperature.

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@dondave said:

@iragexcudder He's been stalemated by Heatwave and he's doesn't produce anything near the temperature of the Sun.

Also, Heatwave doesn't stalemate Cold. Cold is always holding back when it gets about even between them.

But the record for their fights is 3-0, Snart's favor.

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#40  Edited By XiiX

@bigcimmerian said:

Why doesn't Wally snatch his guns before he fires them?

Because nobody would want to buy/read a comic where the fight's over before one side even process the thought that they're in one.

Simple.

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@xiix said:

@bigcimmerian said:

Why doesn't Wally snatch his guns before he fires them?

Because nobody would want to buy/read a comic where the fight's over before one side even knows they're in one.

Simple.

Then writers should make better villains for Wally, ones that will not make fools of readers :P

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@bigcimmerian: Well, there was Zoom. But then you get into having a character so absurdly, ridiculously, outrageously, inconceivably fast that his main/only reason for losing was because it was a part of his character to WANT his opponents to win.

Hahaha.

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@xiix: which is why Flash is dull to me.

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#44  Edited By XiiX

@iragexcudder: Understandable.

Even only strictly regarding what he's consistently proven capable of in character(to the best of his ability), he's fukin insane. And Zoom's like a walking Space Gem, or some sh!t(speed-wise).

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#45 juiceboks  Moderator

@juiceboks said:

@nickthedevil said:

Hal is a special case. Where Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Cyborg would fail, Hal's ring should let him bypass the cold field.

Hal should win with a punch to the face.

Both of these characters have ways of beating Snart without actually getting near him.

I doubt too, they can't go through absolute zero, it stops all movement, maybe Clark could use heat vision to increase the temperature.

Clark can in fact use his heat vision to amp up the temperature. Diana can lasso away his gun as her gear is resistant to molecular manipulation IIRC..

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I would expect this from a newcomer.

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I would expect this from a newcomer.

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#49  Edited By christianrapper

In character? I think if they started off at a decent distance it could be okay.

@thetruebarryallen thoughts sir?

that makes it worse. he can just trap cold in a green bubble and be done with it.

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@xiix: very much agreed. Metaphorically he should absolutely decimate opponents. I feel like he's a character that needs opponents that are walking space/time/milk gems for it to even be at all interesting.

Sure the feats are cool, but when you throw words like femtosecond and attosecond around, it just seems he's a speed thesaurus.