#1 Posted by JimmyJLocke (55 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre-52 Green Arrow

Classic Angel (No Archangel)

Standard gear

Both in character

Random encounter

Fight takes place in the Savage Land

#2 Posted by AllStarSuperman (28306 posts) - - Show Bio

Green arrow

#3 Posted by JimmyJLocke (55 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman: Do you think the trees and foliage help angel at all?

#4 Posted by AllStarSuperman (28306 posts) - - Show Bio

@JimmyJLocke: green arrow lived on a island it wouldn't bother him. If Hawkeye can beat arcangel then GA can beat normal angel

#5 Posted by TDK_1997 (15989 posts) - - Show Bio


#6 Edited by Havenless (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

This is Angel due to locale:

A) Angel has experienced the Savage Lands many times. This isn't some 50x50 foot cell they're brawling in. It's basically a small country. The native inhabitants to the Savage Land would eat Green Arrow alive. I realize Oliver has survived Jungle-situations before, but this is like no jungle he's ever traversed. Full teams of X-men have struggled to make it through unscathed. The ability to fly and avoid 90% of the complications this place may provide would be invaluable. Simply hiding in a tree does little for you here. He could just head for a recognizable safe haven and come back two days later to see if Mr. Queen is arrowless, much less alive.

B) Stan Lee once stated that the point to Angel wasn't just his flight. Characters like Iron Man, Human Torch, and Ms. Marvel can fly much faster than Warren, but his strength comes in aerial combat. Due to the sudden directional changes and 'darting' his wings provide, no Marvel fligher without the power cosmic or the like can out-flank him. With his reaction speed and the fact that arrows don't quite move at bullet speed, it would take a point blank shot for Oliver to hit Warren if he's airborne.

C) Among additional underrated powers Warren possesses, he is a powerful hand-to-hand fighter as trained by Wolverine, Black Widow, and Hercules. Also, when speaking of his teenage combat training, Warren has said, "My father spoiled me with more than money."

His wings grant him superhuman strength feats. Though Green Arrow may still be the premier street brawler, Warren's two additional appendages have a reach diameter of 16 feet from tip to tip. The punches delivered from these are capable of shattering human bone.

He has a healing factor that would make arrow stab wounds a mere annoyance, and reduce poison/stun/electrocute effects to a small fraction of the duration that normal humans feel.

Keep in mind I do think Green Arrow is the superior Hero, but this is simply a situation where he has run into a 'hard counter'.

#7 Posted by Havenless (1667 posts) - - Show Bio



#8 Posted by JimmyJLocke (55 posts) - - Show Bio

I wanted to make this cause hawkeye temporarily defeated Warren in an issue of AvX. But I didnt think they gave Warren enough credit in fighting Clint. I personally think Warren beats Clint so I wanted to.see how he would do against DCs top archer in a location they are both familiar fighting in.