Green Arrow and Malcolm Merlyn runs the gauntlet (EDITED)

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#1  Edited By Dark-Nihilus

Green Arrow from CW

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Green Arrow's Equipment:

  • Bow
  • Assortment or normal and trick arrows
  • Flechettes

Malcolm Merlyn from CW

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Malcolm Merlyn's Equipment:

  • Bow
  • Assortment or normal and trick arrows
  • Flechettes

vs

Round 1: China White (CW), Joker (Nolan), John Blake (Nolan), Detective Lance (CW) and John Diggle (CW)

Round 2: Black Canary (CW), Nisa (CW) and Huntress (CW)

Round 3: Rorschach (Watchmen) and Comedian (Watchmen)

Round 4: Slade Wilson [Pre-Mirakuru] (CW), Billy Wintergreen (CW) and Ra's Al Ghul (Nolan)

Round 5: Big Daddy (Kick ass 2) and Punisher (2004)

Round 6: Catwoman (Nolan), Black Widow (MCU) and Hit Girl (Kick ass 2)

Round 7: Punisher (War Zone Movie) and Batman (Nolan)

Round 8: Ozymandias (Watchmen) and Nite Owl (Watchmen)

Round 9: Captain America (MCU)

Bonus Round: Bane (Nolan) and Mother Russia (Kick ass 2)

Location:

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Rules

  • Everyone is Morals off
  • Healed before each round
  • No Prep
  • Bonus Round: H2H only (nobody has weapons)

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No idea about Round 3, 5 and 8. Clears.

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#3  Edited By dorukesin

stop at 9

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Stop at 9 or clears

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Stop at 9.

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Either of round nine solos

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Stop at 9

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Stops at 9 or clears.

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Clears. Cap isn't taking Oliver and Malcolm by himself.

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Clears. Cap isn't taking Oliver and Malcolm by himself.

Agreed

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@night4345: Cap couldn't take a morals off trick arrow Ollie by himself.

Clears without difficulty. It's like two dudes with rapid fire rocket launchers vs people who evidently cannot dodge or block rapid fire rocket launchers.

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@night4345: Cap couldn't take a morals off trick arrow Ollie by himself.

Clears without difficulty. It's like two dudes with rapid fire rocket launchers vs people who evidently cannot dodge or block rapid fire rocket launchers.

You're underestimating much to Captain America.

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@lukas12: Cap hasn't shown the ability to dodge or catch a arrow let down multiple trick arrows from master archers.

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@lukas12 said:
@boringperson said:

@night4345: Cap couldn't take a morals off trick arrow Ollie by himself.

Clears without difficulty. It's like two dudes with rapid fire rocket launchers vs people who evidently cannot dodge or block rapid fire rocket launchers.

You're underestimating much to Captain America.

You're overestimating movie Cap.

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@night4345: Cap couldn't take a morals off trick arrow Ollie by himself.

Clears without difficulty. It's like two dudes with rapid fire rocket launchers vs people who evidently cannot dodge or block rapid fire rocket launchers.

@lukas12: Cap hasn't shown the ability to dodge or catch a arrow let down multiple trick arrows from master archers.

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@lukas12 said:
@boringperson said:

@night4345: Cap couldn't take a morals off trick arrow Ollie by himself.

Clears without difficulty. It's like two dudes with rapid fire rocket launchers vs people who evidently cannot dodge or block rapid fire rocket launchers.

You're underestimating much to Captain America.

You're overestimating movie Cap.

I agree that the team wins, but very close like 5.5/10. I do not agree that they win without difficulty.

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Clears.

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@lukas12: No, lol, but it's all cool now.

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Captain America wins.

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@lukas12: Morals off Arrow beats Cap 7+/10 with a 30 yr start distance.

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#30  Edited By Dark-Nihilus

@lukas12: Morals off Arrow beats Cap 7+/10 with a 30 yr start distance.

Ollie was barely able to fight Deathstroke on mirakuru. Cap > Deathstroke. Arrow can not win alone (with or without moral).

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#32  Edited By BoringPerson

@dark-nihilus: That is morals on no killing Green Arrow. What defense does Captain America have against a marksman with explosive+net+pyrotechnics+taser arrows firing on repeat?

None. When Cap is pinned down he is supremely vulnerable and only wins via abject opponent stupidity. Like in Winter Soldier where he's pinned down by a minigun and his bright idea is to stand there and shield block bullets into the other dudes... with his legs exposed. Luckily all of his assailants conveniently ONLY aim for his shield and no exposed parts.

Cap's only chance against a morals off Green Arrow is a shield toss first thing, and even that probably ends in a simultaneous kill if morals off cap or a win for Arrow vs morals on Cap. (Morals off Cap would probably end up slicing off Arrow's head with his shield in the few instances it does hit, morals on would just KO. Morals off Arrow kills Cap -who has no good reaction to firearms/ranged weapons feats- while morals on Arrow has no chance for a one shot victory due to not going for lethal force/arrow capable of KO'ing someone as enhanced as Cap. This, of course, is only applicable to the minority of situations where Cap throws his shield first, which Green Arrow is arguably more likely to dodge than not.)

I should also mention that Deathstroke's damage soak has vastly superior feats to Captain America's. Captain America definitively beats him in only speed. Skill is arguable. Equipment power is Cap favored but equipment versatility is Deathstroke favored (guns, grenades, and throwing knives). Cap has better stamina feats. Cap probably takes a majority but your ABC logic is comparing apples and oranges as well as removing the fact that while Slade can cut arrows out of the air, Cap can do nothing but tank them with his shield (while praying his opponent doesn't take advantage of his shield being over his face making him blind to the incoming attacks...)

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#33  Edited By Dark-Nihilus

@boringperson: Cap has too many advantages for losing against Arrow. If Steve (without moral) lands a solid hit on Arrow, he'll shatter bones.

As you say, the Oliver's only serious hope is trick arrows. Even then, tagging him with aforementioned arrows is not going to be easy at all. MCU Steve is extremely agile and uses it in combination with his shield for a great defense. He regularly incorporates rolls and other evasive maneuvers into his fighting style, and during the final battle of Avengers, was agile enough to break into that building where civilians were being held hostages and deftly get through the soldiers then set himself up perfectly to block an explosion with his shield.

A demonstration of the Skill of Cap:

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I should also mention that Deathstroke's damage soak has vastly superior feats to Captain America's. Captain America definitively beats him in only speed. Skill is arguable. Equipment power is Cap favored but equipment versatility is Deathstroke favored (guns, grenades, and throwing knives). Cap has better stamina feats. Cap probably takes a majority but your ABC logic is comparing apples and oranges as well as removing the fact that while Slade can cut arrows out of the air, Cap can do nothing but tank them with his shield (while praying his opponent doesn't take advantage of his shield being over his face making him blind to the incoming attacks...)

I do not agree, Steve gains in skill against Deathstroke. You are underestimating the protection of the shield of Steve. Not only use ABC logic as you say. Cap is too for Arrow only.

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Bane solos them if his hands are durable enough to punch through concrete I am sure that arrows would just bounce off him.

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@dark-nihilus:

This thing is way out of order, anyway.

Round 1: China White (CW), Joker (Nolan), John Blake (Nolan), Detective Lance (CW) and John Diggle (CW)----------Wins, China White is the only real threat.

Round 2: Black Canary (CW), Nisa (CW) and Huntress (CW)---Too Much...BC is already better than Ollie IMO, the Huntress and Nisa just have to hold serve vs Merlyn long enough for BC to put down Ollie and then all of them take down the Dark Archer...

Round 3: Rorschach (Watchmen) and Comedian (Watchmen) Watchmen win the majority, they are only a few steps below super human, and they are basically low level peak humans.

Round 4: Slade Wilson [Pre-Mirakuru] (CW), Billy Wintergreen (CW) and Ra's Al Ghul (Nolan)

They stomp these guys, without morals, they blow them to hell. Slade is the only real threat.

Round 5: Big Daddy (Kick ass 2) and Punisher (2004)

Good fight, Arrow takes it, better weapons.

Round 6: Catwoman (Nolan), Black Widow (MCU) and Hit Girl (Kick ass 2)

BW is the only real threat because of her weapons, Hit Girl is the fastest one here, but lack of experience and she isn't all that great in the H2H department...sure she could use the adrenaline shot, but it will wear off...and she still gets blown to hell with explosive arrows.

Round 7: Punisher (War Zone Movie) and Batman (Nolan)

Batman is the weak link, Punisher could take either guy, but Batman gets his *** handed to him very quickly. Then they double team the Punisher.

Round 8: Ozymandias (Watchmen) and Nite Owl (Watchmen)

Ozy is too much for them, all Owl has to do is hold serve...

Round 9: Captain America (MCU) He beats the crap out of both of them....10/10, they mine as well be fodder to him.

Bonus Round: Bane (Nolan) and Mother Russia (Kick ass 2) They stomp these two, these two characters don't even carry weapons...they mine as well be fodder.

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@allstarsuperman: Uhh, explosive Arrows for Bane. They have normal and trick arrows.

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Bane solos them if his hands are durable enough to punch through concrete I am sure that arrows would just bounce off him.

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#38  Edited By lukas12

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@dark-nihilus said:

Green Arrow from CW

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Green Arrow's Equipment:

  • Bow
  • Assortment or normal and trick arrows
  • Flechettes

Malcolm Merlyn from CW

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Malcolm Merlyn's Equipment:

  • Bow
  • Assortment or normal and trick arrows
  • Flechettes

vs

Round 1: China White (CW), Joker (Nolan), John Blake (Nolan), Detective Lance (CW) and John Diggle (CW)

Round 2: Black Canary (CW), Nisa (CW) and Huntress (CW)

Round 3: Rorschach (Watchmen) and Comedian (Watchmen)

Round 4: Slade Wilson [Pre-Mirakuru] (CW), Billy Wintergreen (CW) and Ra's Al Ghul (Nolan)

Round 5: Big Daddy (Kick ass 2) and Punisher (2004)

Round 6: Catwoman (Nolan), Black Widow (MCU) and Hit Girl (Kick ass 2)

Round 7: Punisher (War Zone Movie) and Batman (Nolan)

Round 8: Ozymandias (Watchmen) and Nite Owl (Watchmen)

Round 9: Captain America (MCU)

Bonus Round: Bane (Nolan) and Mother Russia (Kick ass 2)

Location:

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Rules

  • Everyone is Morals off
  • Healed before each round
  • No Prep
  • Bonus Round: Unarmed combat

Bonus Round: Unarmed. (I guess the four xd).

Black Canary > Arrow, when?

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#41  Edited By entropy_aegis

@allstarsuperman: In h2h Bane combat would thrash them.

Stop at Cap,he beats their asses badly,Malcolm got the fight of his life in a mirakuru grunt,even Ollie lost to another grunt,that's enough for me.

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Rules

  • Everyone is Morals off
  • Healed before each round
  • No Prep
  • Bonus Round: Unarmed combat

Bonus Round: lose if is H2H only.

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@lukehero said:

Round 1: China White (CW), Joker (Nolan), John Blake (Nolan), Detective Lance (CW) and John Diggle (CW)----------Wins, China White is the only real threat.

Agreed.

Round 2: Black Canary (CW), Nisa (CW) and Huntress (CW)---Too Much...BC is already better than Ollie IMO, the Huntress and Nisa just have to hold serve vs Merlyn long enough for BC to put down Ollie and then all of them take down the Dark Archer...

Arrow > BC, Merlyn > Huntress and Nisa.

Round 3: Rorschach (Watchmen) and Comedian (Watchmen) Watchmen win the majority, they are only a few steps below super human, and they are basically low level peak humans.

I agree that in a H2H combat, Watchmen has more possibilities , but I think with arrows (with tricks) gives them a clear advantage. (is movie Wathmen)

Round 4: Slade Wilson [Pre-Mirakuru] (CW), Billy Wintergreen (CW) and Ra's Al Ghul (Nolan)

They stomp these guys, without morals, they blow them to hell. Slade is the only real threat.

Agreed.

Round 5: Big Daddy (Kick ass 2) and Punisher (2004)

Good fight, Arrow takes it, better weapons.

Agreed.

Round 6: Catwoman (Nolan), Black Widow (MCU) and Hit Girl (Kick ass 2)

BW is the only real threat because of her weapons, Hit Girl is the fastest one here, but lack of experience and she isn't all that great in the H2H department...sure she could use the adrenaline shot, but it will wear off...and she still gets blown to hell with explosive arrows.

Catwoman is the weak link, I think Arrow team wins, but after a hard fight.

Round 7: Punisher (War Zone Movie) and Batman (Nolan)

Batman is the weak link, Punisher could take either guy, but Batman gets his *** handed to him very quickly. Then they double team the Punisher.

Agreed.

Round 8: Ozymandias (Watchmen) and Nite Owl (Watchmen)

Ozy is too much for them, all Owl has to do is hold serve...

Ozy is physically better than them, but without moral I think with trick arrows can win, especially if intenca catch the arrow (as he did with the bullet), that can make Nite Owl against shooters skilled? (is movie Wathmen)

Round 9: Captain America (MCU) He beats the crap out of both of them....10/10, they mine as well be fodder to him.

Cap wins, but with difficulty.

Bonus Round: Bane (Nolan) and Mother Russia (Kick ass 2) They stomp these two, these two characters don't even carry weapons...they mine as well be fodder.

It is H2H only. None have guns. Sorry if not understood. I Clarify the OP more.

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#45  Edited By Sachmoo

Actually, it could stop at 2. If there is no knowledge, Canary cry was effective on GA the first time she used it. If she wanted to, she could have killed GA right then and there. I don't see why it wouldn't work on them both leaving them open to a nyssa arrow or anything else fatal.

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#46  Edited By ImmortalTeknique

Stops at 8. I don't see them taking Ozymandias by himself let alone with Nite Owl.

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@dark-nihilus: If the bonus round is no guns, Team Arrow still wins, but with difficultly.

I disagree BC is Superior to Arrow IMO.

Movie watchmen were pretty much the exact same as comicbook watchmen. Zack Synder was extremely faithful to the comic.

Ozy would quickly stomp either guy, he was fast enough to catch a bullet, he's fast enough to avoid arrows, even the trick arrows. The comedian was the only one to give Ozy a real fight, and he did that as an old man. If he comes into this fight in his prime, then he will be carrying his guns and be a lot younger.

Captain America is Superior to Arrow, Hydra & Chirtiua Weapons are much more powerful than anything Team Arrow carries. Cap has dodge the plasma weapons, and took a blast to the gut. He got shot several times and still lifted a huge multi ton beam off of Bucky. He took down a Q Jet and made it look easy. He would easily whoop these guys up.

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#48  Edited By Dark-Nihilus
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@dark-nihilus: If the bonus round is no guns, Team Arrow still wins, but with difficultly.

I'm not sure about the bonus round.

I disagree BC is Superior to Arrow IMO.

I do not see how you may lose the team of Arrow.

Movie watchmen were pretty much the exact same as comicbook watchmen. Zack Synder was extremely faithful to the comic.

Ozy would quickly stomp either guy, he was fast enough to catch a bullet, he's fast enough to avoid arrows, even the trick arrows. The comedian was the only one to give Ozy a real fight, and he did that as an old man. If he comes into this fight in his prime, then he will be carrying his guns and be a lot younger.

Arrow and Malcolm Merlyn are very accurate. They also have good reaction and speed of shooting:

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I just looked it up and a M203 grenade launcher attachment fires a 40mm grenade at 250 feet per second. Still not bullet time (that starts at about 1000 feet per second for handguns) but still pretty good. Especially given that he didn't even draw his arrow until after the grenade was fired.

It will be very difficult for Ozy avoid the multiple arrows tricks. Especially if you try to catch one.

As for Comedian fighting Ozymandias, if you think that getting beat up and being thrown from a window is identical with a real fight, then yes the Comedian gave to Ozy a real fight :)

Captain America is Superior to Arrow, Hydra & Chirtiua Weapons are much more powerful than anything Team Arrow carries. Cap has dodge the plasma weapons, and took a blast to the gut. He got shot several times and still lifted a huge multi ton beam off of Bucky. He took down a Q Jet and made it look easy. He would easily whoop these guys up.

I did not find them faster then bullets. I agree that wins comfortably if closes the gap. The problem is that will not be so easy for Cap.

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They clear, they have a massive advantage in the location in the fight

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@dark-nihilus: Roll away from explosions. Yeah, Cap's MO is putting his shield in front of himself and jumping while praying his opponent lacks the skill to tag him.

He doesn't throw his shield quinjet hard at human beings and has no defense against net or pyro arrows. None. As in even if the pyrotechnics arrow lands in his general vicinity he's screwed. Arrow could just fire three explosive arrows at him at once two or three times in a period of about 2 seconds and Cap would have no defense but curling up and hoping to not take much damage.

Cap's damage soak is inarguably inferior to Slade's by feats and Arrow -who knew Slade could take the hits- took him down extremely simply with bow grenades.

Cap has neither the feats not the damage soak to survive the onslaught of morals off Arrow.