Gray(FT) vs General Esdese(Akame ga kill)

VS

Rules:

No outside help.

Gray is bloodlusted. Esdese is in character but slightly annoyed.

Current Gray as of chapter 400

Win via death only.

Fighting at the Valley of the End

Don't know anything about Esdeath outside of the anime, so until I see more Gray wins.

Esdeath kills Gray with very little effort.

General Esdese

@strictlyanime: I hear she has time stop, froze a city(not sure whether or not that was casual or not;somewhat sure hat was casual)and is hypersonic+ from scaling.I don't think she's in the duo Mach digits iirc.

Manga "Esdeath" with ease. Btw, does anyone know why the characters names are different in the manga and anime?

If she uses time-freeze, she can win. If she uses regular ice abilities, she loses.

By chapter 400, Grey has Ice Devil Slayer Magic. Pretty much an ice version of Natsu's Dragon Slayer, expect specialising in demons and devils instead of dragons. Also shares the resistance to its own element, gets stronger by eating it while apparently being able to control ice created by others.

http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Ice_Devil_Slayer_Magic

Does anyone know how her time-freeze actually works? Just wondering because if it uses her regular power (which the manga I've read implies), she's still using ice powers on someone who's pretty much immune to ice.

@tyler045:

Esdeath abilities are the same as gray except she dont eat ice. Esdeath can create and manipulate ice as well as Gray. Their ice abilities will cancel each ither out. And the fight will come down to h2h. Esdeath is on a completely different level than Gray

@ghost_rider1:

I've read the manga, it's the time-freeze I'm not sure about. It was created using her Teigu, but it never said if it counts as an ice power itself.

I never saw anything to imply she's immune to ice herself, so she'd probably still have to get through his long-range ice manipulation first. He was noted as being quite skilled before getting devil slayer magic.

If she does get to melee range, I agree that she probably would be at a considerable advantage over someone who mostly tends to use long-range magic. Hand-to-hand seems to be more Natsu or Erza's area. Getting close would probably be difficult, though, if she's her normal 'drag it out for fun' self while he's going for the kill right from the start (not to mention she'd probably end up making him stronger without realizing it).

@tyler045: Don't forget she casually took on Susanoo with all of Night Raid without much effort and was easily moving around. Esdeath is much faster than Gray, she can get to close combat rather easily. She "freezes" time, so it would still affect Gray.

@tyler045:

No she isnt immune to ice.....the problem is that she also can manipulate ice. Any ice make magic gray use can be manipulated to her will. Which i why i said their powers are useless against each other. Trying to beat Esdeath with ice is no different from trying to beat Magnetobwith metal. This fight comes down to h2h combat

Esdeath

Gray, ice attack didn't effect him ,time freeze can be resist if you have a resistance to cold(tatsumi did it).so gray take this

Erm, no. Resistance to Mahapadama has nothing to do with reistance to cold . Tatsumi only resisted due to Incursio ability to adapt and evolve. The first time Esdeath used it on him, he was frozen just like everyone else. Stage 2 Incursio was able to move in the time freeze but only for a moment.

As far as Ice creation goes, Grey and Esdeath have similar feats and there really is not much seperating them. The latter does have signicantly more range going off her "Commander in Chief" Trump card, which was country level AOE(granted, this technqiue wouldn't work on Grey anyway due to his cold resitance).

That said, Esdeath should have the advantage in speed . She has fought and blitzed characters who were lightining timers.

Bump

Grey should take this

Bump.. Also gray slaughtets because he is immune to ice

Esdeath slaughters.

Yep from what I know of Gray, Esdeath should easily have this in the bag.

Esdeath is more than an Ice user.

Gray slaughters. He is faster, he is way stronger, way more durable, his ice is more potent and her ts can be resisted by enduring the cold.

@faradaysloth: esdeath isnt gonna do anything else when she is frozen. Also time freeze wont work on gray since he is immune to the cold which was the whole reason why tatsumi resisted it.

manga esdeath would clap she can create an endless army of ice soldiers, an entire ice storm that can freeze an entire continent and freeze time shes also like one of the best swordsman in the entire empire she can also sense someones presence

Esdeath.

@nomight109: Idk why you are under the impression that Gray is immune to the cold, because that is not true in the slightest. Tatsumi only developed a resistance to her time stop, not an immunity.

He has no answer for Esdeath's time stop. She's literally a much stronger version than Invel.

@nomight109: time freeze is literally what it says, freezing time. Mind explaining to us all how Gray has any feats resisting that?

I’m not a FT expert, but I’d probably lean towards Gray anyway.

G. Esdrath oneshots by accidentally

@lichvanastrea: so shouldnt gray have a resistence to it as well? He probably4 isnt immune to cold but has a high resistence to it. Care telling me who gray was fighting in that snip? Im not very well informed in fairy tail.

@nomight109: He was fighting Invel. And there's nothing that suggests he can resist Mahapadma.

@lichvanastrea: oh never mind i didnt read the part were you said it was invel. But whats stopping gray from munching on her ice and getting stronger?

@lichvanastrea: and didnt invel freeze a fireball like natsu with just his presence? No way esdeath is stronger than invel.

https://youtu.be/rRR9ygU8KD8. Skip to 4 09

@lichvanastrea: he even froze natsu's flame

You didn't tag me. BTW, he's using magic.

@lichvanastrea: true but he did it effortlessly(or thats what it looks like) and from what i heard gray stomped invel.

@nomight109: He stomped in a fight that made no sense to begin with.

Not like it matters anyways since Invel nowhere as strong as Esdeath.

@lichvanastrea: ohh wait but did invel use true ice kamui to make gray feel cold? If so than it can really count since it ignores ice resist.also all invel has to do is make esdeath his slave.

@nomight109: No, he didn't...And we're not talking about Invel vs Esdeath here.

@lichvanastrea: invel even froze ice! XD

@lichvanastrea: i know but im using him to prove how strong gray is since invel was stomped by him. Also did invel make gray feel cold after gray used that demon magic? If not its a high chamce that gray has higher ice resistence with it.

@lichvanastrea: well literally every thread from anysite says that invel would win in a fight between him and esdeath soo since gray beat him i thought it would be a good comparison. But if not then tatsumi resisted esdeaths time stop due to ice resistence. You cant tell me he did it any other way. And i extremely doubt that tatsumi has better ice resistence than someone who uses demon ice magic

@lichvanastrea: he even matched E.N.D with a complete element disadvantage. Someone who could melt a large stadium of stone(this is my first debate so im trash)

@lichvanastrea: esdeath dosent stop time. She freezes it. So that means tatsumi needed ice resistence. Gray ice resistence> tatsumi ice resistence. And like i said he was able to keep up with E.N.D natsu with an element disadvantage.

@nomight109: Do you realize what you're saying? That's literally the exact same thing as stopping time all together...He did not develop a resistance to ice, he developed a resistance to time stop.

Gray does not have anything like that, unless you can prove it.

@lichvanastrea: actually no. Esdeaths tiegu or whatever its called is to control ice. Going from that we can assume that when she FREEZES time she cools down every atom in the area. I dont know how you adapt a resistence to time STOP. Even gray has a quote about using ice to stop time.

"Ice can even stop the time of life itself. So, you'll be left behind for eternity".

@nomight109: That's not how her abilities work. Yes, her Teigu allows her to control and manipulate ice, but Mahapadma doesn't cool down the atoms in the area. She literally freezes time and space itself.

You know it's a shame the same logic does not apply to Akame Ga Kill.

@lichvanastrea: yes exactly. She is frezzing it,not stopping it. I doubt a tiegu that mainly just controls ice and tempature does anything but the reason i just gave. I mean look at how all her other abilities work,she is most likely lowering the tempature of the moisture around her turning it into ice. Her just straight up stopping time magically is a stark contrast to her other abilities. Also is the response that you gave for grays quote an agk joke? I never watched the show so im confused