Venom
Golden Age Superman vs Venom
"I donno the symbiote feeds off of anger and hatred.....Superman has neither...
um, yes he does...
Superman feels anger and hatred just like anyone else, he was raised as a human and has a basic human psychological profile...
I think this was best shown in the Death of Superman arc and the Kingdom Come arc... with both showing exellent images of Superman actually losing his tempter and showing people how dangerous he is when he's really angry
M
"we are talking about Golden Age Superman though.....back then he was never really angry or pissed off...he was a real boyscout.....as wholesome as Apple Pie"
it's basically the same character with a different power set...
he was still raised by humans and had a basic moral standard... nothing to stop him feeling any human emotion like Hate, Love, Anger and so on...
M
just because he didn't show them, doesn't mean he doesn't have them...
i mean, all heroes / villains raised on earth will have a basic human psychological profile, that's just a fact of their upbringing... this is shown differently in "Last Son of Earth" where the roles are switched and "Superman" is raised on Krypton after leaving earth as an infant... growing up on Krypton he had a completely different upbringing and had completely different emotional centres and morality, it's just a basic fact of upbringing.
you can't say that because someone doesn't show a certain emotion that they don't have that emotion at all, i mean, we all know Golden Age Superman was a boyscout, but he still had the range of human emotions like Jealousy, Love and Compassion, as were shown regularly in the strip
M
"Lunacyde said:haha of course you do because it is a fact....look it up, he was written as a different character in the beginning and he evolved as time went on lol"i agree"I am saying at the time he was written in the Golden Age he was not written to have those traits....they added them later
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"Superman would win here... keep in mind that the later years of Golden Age Superman showed him doing some Silver Age Superman type feats... so its possible for Superman to win hereLike what?
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"King Saturn said:Traveling near Light Speed... Lifting SkyScrapers..."Superman would win here... keep in mind that the later years of Golden Age Superman showed him doing some Silver Age Superman type feats... so its possible for Superman to win hereLike what?"
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lol
"Lunacyde said:true, superman gets angry pretty often. He can even be an arrogant, disrespectful douche at times, as he is here with black adam."I donno the symbiote feeds off of anger and hatred.....Superman has neither...
um, yes he does...
Superman feels anger and hatred just like anyone else, he was raised as a human and has a basic human psychological profile...
I think this was best shown in the Death of Superman arc and the Kingdom Come arc... with both showing exellent images of Superman actually losing his tempter and showing people how dangerous he is when he's really angry
M"
" golden age supes, what would stop him from ripping one of venom's arm off and beating him to death with it? "Morals my good sir, morals. This supes would never do such a thing. He would smash a truck on top of him instead. lol
venom would win against early golden age superman. early golden age didn't have heat vision or a sonic voice (he could just hold his breath) and his strength was in the 40 ton range, he couldn't heal and he could be killed by an exploding shell.
late golden age superman could lift a mountain range, travel at the speed of light (or beyond) and had heat vision
@BatDance said:
King Saturn said:"I dont know... later on through the Golden Age Era... Superman began to do some rather Silver Age thingsThat kind of PIS is why they stopped calling it Golden and started calling it Silver
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There's probably no point in this but I have to correct this misinformation. The Silver age started in 1955. The upgrade of Superman started in 1941. It was in reaction to a new character by a company called Fawcett, in a comic called Whiz outselling superman who had powers at the level of the Silver age Version. You may have heard of the character he was called Captain Marvel (Big Red Cheese). he had some issues of Whiz that sold over one million copies. By 1943 Superman was at least at the pre Flashpoint/Modern Levels by 14/5 easily SA levels (about 20 years before anything remotely called the SA).
Also the statement that GA Supes had no anger is way off. In the actual GA most super heroes/ Mysterymen were a LOT more brutal than later years. That was actually the reason the GA came to an end. There was a movement questioning the comics because of rising violent crime in youth (sound familiar - TV/Video games/ Movies). That was why prior to the start of the SA the comics publishers came up with "code of comics". Towards the of the GA he was more moral ( that's why he was one of the few along with Batman, Green Arrow, Wonder Woman and Aquaman to be continued through until the Silver Age )
I'd Write It Like This. Venom and Superman go blow for blow. Superman gets knocked down but gets back up every time with a do-right smile and a corny line, Golden Age all the way, snapping webs like old-timey chains wrapped around railroads in World War II-era movies. He won't give up, and he won't stop smiling. Symbiote is so impressed with Superman that it peels off and goes for the better host. But this is the Golden Age. Superman is too good and pure to feel any of the anger that feeds the symbiote. Symbiote dribbles off but Superman already has the original host by the collar. "Ulp!" gulps Eddie Brock or whoever, sporting an unshaven mug. Superman bounces off to plop the host directly into a white-and-black-striped prison uniform hanging on a wall hook at the local penitentiary, and the very next panel, our hero's got the symbiote locked away in an air-tight glass tube that we've literally never seen before in this or any other story. He brings the symbiote to U.S. military scientists for "careful scientific study - very careful, mind you!" We close with Clark Kent writing up the story, and expressing the firm hope (to no one in particular) that "the mysterious Martian menace I met today might someday aid mankind in its quest for knowledge".
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