Gold Amazo vs Epic Team

TEAM: (Annihilators, Doctor Strange, Adam Warlock, Juggernaut, Spawn, Ghost Rider w/ help from Zarathos, Waverider, Thor w/ Destroyer Armor)

VS.

Gold Amazo

Scenario: Earth has been destroyed. These guys are the only opposition that remain. The damage can be repaired via time travel, but only if Amazo is first sent to the End of Time. Can this Epic Team vanquish the unstoppable Golden Amazo to the End of Time? Or will they too be effortlessly dispatched?

All members of the Epic Team are at peak power levels (No power ups like IG; No God mode or Trion mode) but full power of their regular forms.

Anything goes!

Team has 30 minutes Prep

Gold Amazo preps en-route to battle.

gold amazo stomps team

Any of the team solo. Especially anyone magic since that's his weakness. As is energy absorption.

@darkraiden:

Since when was Gold Amazo shown to have any weaknesses?

How?I seen the JL cartoon a lot and he's isn't winning this.

Team stomps.

Gold Amazo is the definition of overrated.

He's only third to me.Superman Prime One Million and Dr.Manhattan take the cake.

@beaconofstrength: @homicidalmaniac:

But Gold Amazo was effortlessly moving planets and plowing through the strongest members of the JLA like they weren't even there. And if anyone were to give him some problems, who's to say he couldn't copy their powers?

@homicidalmaniac: the team has better power setup compared to the JL cartoon but given that he has not lost his copying ability and has all learned what he has seen in the JL cartoon universe, what stops golden amazo from copying the comicbook versions then ?

@goldking: He couldn't beat Solomon Grundy. Whats stopping a speed blitz or him being drained? Also, animated JLU are nothing compared to their comic counterparts.

Amazo gets stomped.

All he has to do is look as them and he receives their skills, abilities, and equipment. They stack too.

Nobody is getting stomped here.

@beaconofstrength: he couldn't beat solomon grundy because it was feeding on his energy blast and conveniently forgot that he can teleport planets into other dimensions.

Wait isnt amazo stronger than the whole Green Lantern corp. And the justice leauge.

@beaconofstrength: That was PIS.

This is the Gold Amazo from the specific episode where he was hunting Lex Luthor and absolutely thrashing the JLA.

Glod Amazo couldn't beat cartoon Soloman Grundy and the team can do the same thing as Soloman did.What feats in the JLA cartoon team had put them the same level as Dr.Strange,Zarathos,Destroyer Armor,and etc.

@goldking: The animated JLU is nothing compared to their comic counterparts. How is it PIS? I don't see anything stopping the team from draining or speed blitzing him.

People say he's omnipotent, just because he was able to copy the animated JLU's powers.

I fail to take any Gold Amazo threads seriously.

The cartoon JLA are weaker than the comic JLA and moving a planet is his best feat,but he's doesn't have enough feats that put him at this level of the team.

Team via BFR

That's silly and you not it. The Big with Grundy is the dumbest thing people keep bringing up.I've said this a million times. The first power Amazo copied was Hawk girl and her hammer. The first. Amazo should have crushed him without the slightest bit of effort due to this fact alone. His lost was complete and utter PIS.
More over what is to stop him fom copying all of their powers in a gace. Please at least address one of these.

No it's not.

So, the ability to copy powers, move planets, density shift, speed force and Super strength are uselss here you say??

@bossmonster: Show me Gold Amazo copying anyone as powerful as the Destroyer Armor.

@homicidalmaniac: i would repeat what i said earlier

"he couldn't beat solomon grundy because it was feeding on his energy blast and conveniently forgot that he can teleport planets into other dimensions."

while the JL cartoon team is a very weak version of their comic counterparts, amazo's copying capability is so significant that it wouldn't be a far stretch that he can copy this team's abilities. i am skirting the no-limits fallacy territory but this is JLU amazo, he's a NLF itself.

@bossmonster: You're calling it PIS, because you don't like it?

Also, show me Amazo copying anyone as strong as the team.

Nothing is stopping the team to speed blitz him in a nano second.

Nothing is stopping Amazo being BFR'd, either.

@homicidalmaniac: @cgoodness: @beaconofstrength:

Doesn't matter if the cartoon JLA is weak. The Gold Amazo was insanely powerful and capable of doing things no one else in the cartoon could even begin to come close to. So if he fought this team, who's to say he couldn't do the same thing to them? And again, if anyone was giving him problems, all he has to do is copy their powers.

The Solomon Grundy episode was mega-PIS....hyper-PIS.... just......fail.

If the Team BFRs him, he could just come right back and/or BFR them.

@goldking: Show me an instance where Amazo copied someone to the teams degree.

Nothing is stopping Quasar from BFR'ing him to the Quantum Zone.

Also, I love how people call it PIS, just because they don't like it.

@goldking: he showed Interdimensional teleportation? i know he traveled the universe but i dont remember that

@homicidalmaniac: he couldnt beat solomon grundy cause solomon grundy was basically chaos, i see none of them being able to do the same as they did before, it was feeding not draining his energy, and for all we know he mite of gotten past that cause he went to explore the universe to search for an answer why he was feeding it. Anyway as i said It wasn't regular solomon grundy it was chaos solomon grundy.

@beaconofstrength:

It's PIS because it's not consistent at all with his capabilities from the previous encounter (where he's hunting Lex Luthor). Amazo in that episode was capable of basically anything he wanted. Just watch it.

Just because it didn't show him dealing with every single possible situation doesn't mean he isn't capable of it. But it's implied he is nigh-unbeatable.

Gold Amazo isn't like Protege(whose copying ability put above Living Tribunal)and Gold Amazo simply doesn't have the feats of copying others powers that are on-par with Silver Surfer or Dr.Strange.Gold Amazo isn't BFRing most of the team,because they are move to other dimensions.

It was obvious the writers realized they made him too powerful so they decided to throw the awesome power of "PIS/CIS" at him lol

@goldking: I like how you still avoided my other answers.

he's in three episodes and two as gold

he's omnipotent but chaos magic effected him

Warlock/Spawn/Ghost Rider and if '"goes there' Strange have the best chances but Grundy was the first Gold Amazo faced in battle. Is it just something he didn't absorb or a true weakness. Punches once knocked him down as well.

@unbreakable_fs4: The writers already knew how they were going to stop him. It's not really PIS if the same exact writers who wrote his abilities found a way to beat him.

Gold Amazo feedsis on the no limits fallacy.

@homicidalmaniac: gold amazo may not be on protege's level but when base amazo (aka amazo with no powers) copied the justice league members upon seeing them, it set a high standard and his copying capability hasn't show a significant limit. by his second return, he's already stronger than the whole JLU expanded team and all that by merely travelling in the JLU cartoon universe.

i would certainly be apprehensive to argue it on abstract levels but against this team, i can argue he can copy their abilities.

@kyrees: So, he's copied from people as strong as the team, huh?

Or are we just bundling on the no limits fallacy, bandwagon?

@beaconofstrength: But it is undeniable WIS. The writer created him knowing full well of his capabilities but still chose to ignore them when he wanted AMAZO defeated. Thereby permitting AMAZO to forget his powers (CIS)

@unbreakable_fs4: Every gold Amazo thread still bandwagons off the no limits fallacy. Nothing is stopping the team from BFR'ing him into another dimension or speed blitzing him into oblivion.

@beaconofstrength: base amazo with no powers copied the justice league's powers. think about that. i wouldn't be arguing him copying abstract level beings but this team's who is similar to what i mentioned earlier, why wouldn't that happen ?

@kyrees: Nice, the animated JL is nothing, compared to their comic counterparts, and the team. He's shown nothing to be able to copy the teams level of power.

He has nothing to prove he can handle this team, besides beating up a bunch of weak counterparts.

Amazo is beyond overrated.

@beaconofstrength: I dont believe its a no limits fallacy. He didn't seem to be able to copy Chaos Magic but regardless, I'd have to refresh my memory of him cause I cant recall if he can teleport to counter BFR and I cant recall a single speed feat

@unbreakable_fs4: It is, considering people think he can copy powers from people thousands of times stronger than the animated JL. He's shown nothing to prove he could, though.

@beaconofstrength: @homicidalmaniac:

Protege is the #1 of copying powers, no question, but I'd put Gold Amazo at least at #2 or 3. But I don't think anyone will ever come close to Protege in that regard.

Show me in the Lex Luthor episode where he is shown to be NOT able to copy certain powers. Anyone and everyone that came against him was (literally) effortlessly overcome. And who's to say he couldn't speed blitz the team and/or BFR them. If he's capable of BFRing an entire planet, then he should have no problem BFRing any one of the team. And if he were BFR'd himself, he'd be more than capable of coming back.

Is this still reaching for a near no limits fallacy.The base Amazo beaten the cartoon JLA were mainly consist of mid-tiers.The JLU expanded team still isn't as strong their comic versions and Gold Amazo could be a good high tier+ character.Gold Amazo against a team like Destroyer Armor Thor,Waverider,Silver Surfer,Dr.Strange,Zarathos,Spawn,and others is really pushing it.

@goldking: So if he's able to copy powers from very weak people, he's able to copy from just about anyone, huh? You're using the no limits fallacy, so hard right now.

He's shown nothing to prove he can copy powers of this team. A few members of the team alone, could effortlessly curbstomp the animated JL. It would be a different sotry, if it was the comic versions of the JL, but it's not the comic versions.

Also, he's shown nothing to prove he can teleport out of quantum zone.

Amazo is still overrated.

The team have member can travel to other dimensions(like Spawn,Thor,Dr.Strange)and Adam Warlock can travel to other universes IIRC.Gold Amazo is still limited to appearances from the show and the writers of the show didn't us that how far can Gold Amazo copying can reach in powers like Dr.Strange or Zarathos.

*Loses faith in humanity*

He's actually never shown he had the magic capabilities of her hammer, just the shape. He HAS shown a weakness to energy draining and magic. Thus he'd lose here. Plus I'm almost 100% sure he lost his power copying as he didn't use it on Grundy, he only had his cosmic abilities, making him a bootleg Surfer.

@beaconofstrength: if it was base amazo, then it would overrating him however this is gold amazo, a planetary level at the very least. he may have shown nothing to match the current team but his durability at that point leaves him enough time to copy anyone on the team. it would be a illogical to think that someone who's at planet level won't be able to do such thing.

it doesn't really matter if he beat a weaker version of the JL. that fact that he copied powers from a clean slate form is a good enough standard for argument.

@homicidalmaniac i acknowledge the fact the animated JL are weaker. however given the fact that gold amazo would be able to survive long enough against them for his copying capabilities to work is enough basis for me that he can. if this was base amazo, i wouldn't argue.

@kyrees: Moving a planet doesn't make you a planet level threat. Also, you're still resorting to mass no limits fallacy. it completely matters if it's a much weaker version of the Justice League. You're saying he can handle this extremely high end team, just because he copied powers from people much, much weaker. You're using the no limits fallacy, because he has no feats that put them on the teams level. Using your logic, he can copy just about anyone.

Team stomps.

@kyrees: Look like we going just to agree to disagree.

@beaconofstrength:

while we follow no feats here on cv, the no-feats policy can be bended if the gap of power isn't really that big enough especially with his copying capabilities stacking. base amazo's power gap to JL is big to a point that he had acquired independent cell regeneration and cell memory from cartoon MM or else base amazo wouldn't survive luthor's planted bomb in his head. this is nanotech that has a main brain and it evolved to what cartoon MM is.

if you use gold amazo, the gap to the team isn't really that big enough to claim an NLF (though it can be argued to skirt it)