Goku vs Zoom and Wally West
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Goku has no morals.
The team has morals.
No prep.
Start 100 ft. away.
Who wins?
Goku is Always Flying and has the Speed to get airborn. There he can Continenet Blast at Lightspeed and kill Wally for sure.
Zoom is in the same mess if Goku manages a hit. Or Blinds him with a Solar Flare!
Doesn't Zoom have the ability to kill people when they are children via time travel, Barry was protected because Zoom needed him to exist or else he wouldn't exist.
Horrible stomp.
@CadenceV2 said:
Goku is Always Flying and has the Speed to get airborn. There he can Continenet Blast at Lightspeed and kill Wally for sure.
Zoom is in the same mess if Goku manages a hit. Or Blinds him with a Solar Flare!
Too bad he won't even get the thought of "fly" in his head before Zoom IMPs his fist through his skull.
Flash can move trillions of times the speed of light, I don't think Goku can react to the speed that fast. Not to mention Zoom automatically manipulate time around himself, he always be faster than anyone with just physical speed alone.
Goku might have speed feat, but dodging energy blast is street leveler's feat. And I also realized that fighting speed and reflexes can be separated factors.
@Dextersinister said:
Doesn't Zoom have the ability to kill people when they are children via time travel, Barry was protected because Zoom needed him to exist or else he wouldn't exist.
Horrible stomp.
While what you are saying is correct for Professor Zoom (and frankly the picture in OP is of him) people seem to going with the assumption thats its Zoom as in Hunter Zolomon as opposed to whom you are talking about.
One is more versatile, the other just fast, but pretty freakin fast.
@Lord_Johnathan said:
@CadenceV2 said:
Goku is Always Flying and has the Speed to get airborn. There he can Continenet Blast at Lightspeed and kill Wally for sure.
Zoom is in the same mess if Goku manages a hit. Or Blinds him with a Solar Flare!
Too bad he won't even get the thought of "fly" in his head before Zoom IMPs his fist through his skull.
Too bad wally has trouble hitting FTL speeds that Goku can Instantly.
So... yeah.....
@CadenceV2 said:
@Lord_Johnathan said:
@CadenceV2 said:
Goku is Always Flying and has the Speed to get airborn. There he can Continenet Blast at Lightspeed and kill Wally for sure.
Zoom is in the same mess if Goku manages a hit. Or Blinds him with a Solar Flare!
Too bad he won't even get the thought of "fly" in his head before Zoom IMPs his fist through his skull.
Too bad wally has trouble hitting FTL speeds that Goku can Instantly.
So... yeah.....
This isn't wally, this is Zoom who's so fast that Wally can't even see him without speed stealing two other flashes.
Instant transmission is some sort of teleportation, and we knew that it required sometime to convert matter into information, and Goku can't think fast enough to transmit himself or Flash....
@AngryHulks said:
Instant transmission is some sort of teleportation, and we knew that it required sometime to convert matter into information, and Goku can't think fast enough to transmit himself or Flash....
Except it is FTL as Goku perceives and Thinks FTL and Teleports in Battle with FTL beings. So again Waaly is a non factor.
@Lord_Johnathan said:
@CadenceV2 said:
@Lord_Johnathan said:
@CadenceV2 said:
Goku is Always Flying and has the Speed to get airborn. There he can Continenet Blast at Lightspeed and kill Wally for sure.
Zoom is in the same mess if Goku manages a hit. Or Blinds him with a Solar Flare!
Too bad he won't even get the thought of "fly" in his head before Zoom IMPs his fist through his skull.
Too bad wally has trouble hitting FTL speeds that Goku can Instantly.
So... yeah.....
This isn't wally, this is Zoom who's so fast that Wally can't even see him without speed stealing two other flashes.
You however have a point.
@CadenceV2 said:
@AngryHulks said:
Instant transmission is some sort of teleportation, and we knew that it required sometime to convert matter into information, and Goku can't think fast enough to transmit himself or Flash....
Except it is FTL as Goku perceives and Thinks FTL and Teleports in Battle with FTL beings. So again Waaly is a non factor.
How many times can Goku reacts faster-than-light? It's vague term, as Wally can zip trillion of times the speed of light (with rough calculation made when he saved 100,000+ people from the nuclear explosion) when he musters more speed force, and that's not even his obvious limits.
Just because Goku is faster-than-light (I still doubts that) doesn't guaranteed that he is faster than Flash.
@AngryHulks: You could save 100,000+ Peaople with FTL Speed alone. The Trillion Times FTL is never stated nor plausible at all.
I really like to see Wally best Speed Feat WITHOUT Speed Steal.
Cause Goku has moved FTL mutiple times with ease.
@AngryHulks: Also am I the only guy who sees just how ****ing stupid DC writers are.
A speedster who moves at Mach 10 with ease gets Obliterated at Lightning Speeds....
Yet Flash can safley move 100,000+ at FTL Speed?
How ****ing dumb are these writers?
I should write comics. Im overly Qualified lol.
@CadenceV2 said:
@AngryHulks: You could save 100,000+ Peaople with FTL Speed alone. The Trillion Times FTL is never stated nor plausible at all.
I really like to see Wally best Speed Feat WITHOUT Speed Steal.
Cause Goku has moved FTL mutiple times with ease.
I know that was a rough calculation (I didn't made it anyway). But it's reasonable calculation as Flash can literally spent over an age of the universe in one second, and he have stated that.
Using sense of difference in magnitude, Flash have can perceives so fast that light-speed appeared as frozen, so he can't be just 10 faster than light.
Faster-than-light speed is vague because there's no upper limits to that, so numbers plays role here. People who are (for example) went 3 times faster than light won't beat someone who can went 30 times faster than light. Just because you're FTL doesn't translated into that you have infinite speed.
Speed force was a device that DC used to hand-waived the scientific impossibility. All Flash families have speed force aura to protect them against all sort of friction, and even superhumanly strong punches.
I debated against Flash virtually all the time, and I show bitterness at him, but this time, no.
@CadenceV2 said:
Goku is Always Flying and has the Speed to get airborn. There he can Continenet Blast at Lightspeed and kill Wally for sure.
Zoom is in the same mess if Goku manages a hit. Or Blinds him with a Solar Flare!
Zoom and flash will time travel in the past and kill baby Goku
@AngryHulks said:
@CadenceV2 said:
@AngryHulks: You could save 100,000+ Peaople with FTL Speed alone. The Trillion Times FTL is never stated nor plausible at all.
I really like to see Wally best Speed Feat WITHOUT Speed Steal.
Cause Goku has moved FTL mutiple times with ease.
I know that was a rough calculation (I didn't made it anyway). But it's reasonable calculation as Flash can literally spent over an age of the universe in one second, and he have stated that.
Using sense of difference in magnitude, Flash have can perceives so fast that light-speed appeared as frozen, so he can't be just 10 faster than light.
Faster-than-light speed is vague because there's no upper limits to that, so numbers plays role here. People who are (for example) went 3 times faster than light won't beat someone who can went 30 times faster than light. Just because you're FTL doesn't translated into that you have infinite speed.
When did he move trillions of times the speed of light? That seems like a BS statement if I've ever heard one.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
@Floopay said:
@AngryHulks said:
@CadenceV2 said:
@AngryHulks: You could save 100,000+ Peaople with FTL Speed alone. The Trillion Times FTL is never stated nor plausible at all.
I really like to see Wally best Speed Feat WITHOUT Speed Steal.
Cause Goku has moved FTL mutiple times with ease.
I know that was a rough calculation (I didn't made it anyway). But it's reasonable calculation as Flash can literally spent over an age of the universe in one second, and he have stated that.
Using sense of difference in magnitude, Flash have can perceives so fast that light-speed appeared as frozen, so he can't be just 10 faster than light.
Faster-than-light speed is vague because there's no upper limits to that, so numbers plays role here. People who are (for example) went 3 times faster than light won't beat someone who can went 30 times faster than light. Just because you're FTL doesn't translated into that you have infinite speed.
When did he move trillions of times the speed of light? That seems like a BS statement if I've ever heard one.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
In any case, it won't matter, Zoom is the real threat here, and he's going to kill Goku before he can even register that the fight's begun.
Wow, you must hate Goku? anyways.. he gets blitzed.
but lets equalize speed and take out no speed stealing, and no time ahead powers for Zoom, no flight...than who wins?
Hot damn it didn't take long for the DBZ fans to start making themselves known.
Zoom kills Goku. Next.
It should have been Wally West & Goku vs. Zoom.
Even then Zoom would have won :P
@Illuminatus said:
Hot damn it didn't take long for the DBZ fans to start making themselves known.
Zoom kills Goku. Next.
L M A O
@nU_Kovak said:
@Lord_Johnathan said:
Zoom puts his fist through the Sayan's head before he can even register that he was in a fight.
A Vlad Tepes is in order, I think.
@Lord_Johnathan said:
Zoom puts his fist through the Sayan's head before he can even register that he was in a fight.
Exactly. Although Goku is faster than light, and Instant Transmission basically makes him move fast enough to contend with Flash (certainly not win), Zoom is a time traveler that is faster than all of the flashes and defeated the whole Justice League without prep. Goku would disappear, because Zoom exploded his intestines with Zoom's vibrating hands when he was a child. There is no fight, because Goku will cease to exist.
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