Goku vs Odinforce Thor

Excuse my ignorance, but with full Odin Force does Thor get a speed boost with it?

OF THOR WINS

@Agent9149 said:

This is just mean. Goku loses.

@TheCerealKillz said:

@Cybrilious4 said:

Goku you fools, SSJ4 would wipe the Floor with Thor. SSJ4 is nearly a galactic buster if not is.

Show me a scan of anyone in DBZ destroying a galaxy, except Broly, and then come back.

asking a DBZ fan to prove something?

lol you ask for too much

Dragon Ball Z: Inconsistent. Try to go with the most consistent showing of power, and ignore any statements of power levels, they are often bullcrap, unless stated with absolute certainty (i.e. a character who senses energy levels themselves, states that someone is weakened or weaker than they used to be, as opposed to someone saying "omg that attack is going to blow up da planet durr", which could very easily be speculation rather than fact)

Comic Books: Much less inconsistent. Try to go for a more consistent showing of power, but overall, the power levels aren't that inconsistent. For a character like OF Thor, use any showings of him available, since he hasn't popped up all that often, to my knowledge (maybe I'm thinking of Rune King Thor.)

Odinforce Thor... Can someone please post some feats of him for me, in these areas specifically?

Travel speed (not including teleportation)

Reaction speed

Durability

Pure firepower

Time manipulation.

If he can react fast enough and stop time and blast Goku, which I've heard he can (but have never seen scans for), Goku dies. However... As I've said, I've never seen scans of these events, so they might be BS. If he can't stop time, or react faster than Goku, then Goku can teleport and smack him around, and if he's not durable enough to live through it, he loses.

The only feats I've actually seen from OF Thor however, are melting Cap and his shield with omgwtfbbq heat vision, and stomping the avengers into a fine paste with energy blasts and pure strength. And a beard that can kill planets. Unfortunately though, Goku has enough hair for thirty beards, so he's immune to that effect.

@uberhikari said:

@minigunman123 said:

Dragon Ball Z: Inconsistent. Try to go with the most consistent showing of power, and ignore any statements of power levels, they are often bullcrap, unless stated with absolute certainty (i.e. a character who senses energy levels themselves, states that someone is weakened or weaker than they used to be, as opposed to someone saying "omg that attack is going to blow up da planet durr", which could very easily be speculation rather than fact)

Comic Books: Much less inconsistent. Try to go for a more consistent showing of power, but overall, the power levels aren't that inconsistent. For a character like OF Thor, use any showings of him available, since he hasn't popped up all that often, to my knowledge (maybe I'm thinking of Rune King Thor.)

Odinforce Thor... Can someone please post some feats of him for me, in these areas specifically?

Travel speed (not including teleportation)

Reaction speed

Durability

Pure firepower

Time manipulation.

If he can react fast enough and stop time and blast Goku, which I've heard he can (but have never seen scans for), Goku dies. However... As I've said, I've never seen scans of these events, so they might be BS. If he can't stop time, or react faster than Goku, then Goku can teleport and smack him around, and if he's not durable enough to live through it, he loses.

The only feats I've actually seen from OF Thor however, are melting Cap and his shield with omgwtfbbq heat vision, and stomping the avengers into a fine paste with energy blasts and pure strength. And a beard that can kill planets. Unfortunately though, Goku has enough hair for thirty beards, so he's immune to that effect.

Are you serious? Do you even know what the Odin Force is? It practically turns Thor into a skyfather. Do you honestly believe that Goku has any chance to beat a skyfather?

You're a perfect example of what I was talking about in my earlier post. When a community reaches a consensus about certain truths and another group of people come into that community and start asking for evidence/proof of those truths it's a recipe for chaos. Every viner here takes it for granted that Goku can't beat a skyfather, Odin Force Thor = skyfather, therefore there's no need to even debate. Asking for proof that Odin Force Thor can beat Goku is like asking for proof that Odin can beat Vegeta; no proof is necessary, Odin is a skyfather so he stomps.

So basically, you're getting mad at me for saying "I think Thor takes it, but I've actually never seen proof, so can someone give me proof please", rather than "yup yup, I mindlessly agree with everyone here, yup yup"?

If Thor can do the kinds of things people say he can do, shouldn't there be ample evidence? I've never even seen a scan of him doing this stuff. Shouldn't you just give me the scans so that we can all be on our merry way, rather than getting mad that I actually think for myself?

@uberhikari said:

@minigunman123 said:

@uberhikari said:

@minigunman123 said:

Dragon Ball Z: Inconsistent. Try to go with the most consistent showing of power, and ignore any statements of power levels, they are often bullcrap, unless stated with absolute certainty (i.e. a character who senses energy levels themselves, states that someone is weakened or weaker than they used to be, as opposed to someone saying "omg that attack is going to blow up da planet durr", which could very easily be speculation rather than fact)

Comic Books: Much less inconsistent. Try to go for a more consistent showing of power, but overall, the power levels aren't that inconsistent. For a character like OF Thor, use any showings of him available, since he hasn't popped up all that often, to my knowledge (maybe I'm thinking of Rune King Thor.)

Odinforce Thor... Can someone please post some feats of him for me, in these areas specifically?

Travel speed (not including teleportation)

Reaction speed

Durability

Pure firepower

Time manipulation.

If he can react fast enough and stop time and blast Goku, which I've heard he can (but have never seen scans for), Goku dies. However... As I've said, I've never seen scans of these events, so they might be BS. If he can't stop time, or react faster than Goku, then Goku can teleport and smack him around, and if he's not durable enough to live through it, he loses.

The only feats I've actually seen from OF Thor however, are melting Cap and his shield with omgwtfbbq heat vision, and stomping the avengers into a fine paste with energy blasts and pure strength. And a beard that can kill planets. Unfortunately though, Goku has enough hair for thirty beards, so he's immune to that effect.

Are you serious? Do you even know what the Odin Force is? It practically turns Thor into a skyfather. Do you honestly believe that Goku has any chance to beat a skyfather?

You're a perfect example of what I was talking about in my earlier post. When a community reaches a consensus about certain truths and another group of people come into that community and start asking for evidence/proof of those truths it's a recipe for chaos. Every viner here takes it for granted that Goku can't beat a skyfather, Odin Force Thor = skyfather, therefore there's no need to even debate. Asking for proof that Odin Force Thor can beat Goku is like asking for proof that Odin can beat Vegeta; no proof is necessary, Odin is a skyfather so he stomps.

So basically, you're getting mad at me for saying "I think Thor takes it, but I've actually never seen proof, so can someone give me proof please", rather than "yup yup, I mindlessly agree with everyone here, yup yup"?

If Thor can do the kinds of things people say he can do, shouldn't there be ample evidence? I've never even seen a scan of him doing this stuff. Shouldn't you just give me the scans so that we can all be on our merry way, rather than getting mad that I actually think for myself?

I'm not mad at you at all. And there is ample evidence but it's unlikely that anyone is going to provide it to you. Why? Because this is a stomp thread and people wouldn't waste their time entertaining it by exerting energy to post scans. That's just the way it is. If someone created a Goku vs. Beyonder thread would you expect scans there as well? Would you be all, "Well, I think Beyonder wins but I want scans just to be sure"? I doubt it.

Not the same.

Odinforce Thor is not a common character. Beyonder is a character that is well defined by his appearances, and his appearances are not very rare; from what I've read, however, OF Thor doesn't show up often. He's liable to be surrounded by misinformation.

Beyonder, I've seen a few scans of already, but to be honest, I would like scans of Beyonder anyway, because I'm not a Marvel guy. I don't read their comics very much. I've not seen much of what Beyonder can do. Besides that, I do know that he should be omnipotent, and basically can do anything; so yeah, I might operate with that knowledge without asking for any evidence (even though I haven't seen almost any scans of what he can do).

Besides.

Nobody has ever said anything about his reaction time, as far as I know. Nobody's even mentioned it. What if Goku is so much faster than OF Thor, he teleports OF Thor to hell, or Surtur's realm, or something... And teleports out before Thor realizes what's going on? What if he simply punches him a thousand times before Thor knows what's going on? Goku's a strong mofo, a thousand punches from him would probably be a big deal.

I don't know who wins. That's why I'm asking for scans so I can decide for myself. It's not a big deal. If people don't want to post scans, they don't have to, you're right... But who cares? What's the point of you and me having this conversation, if the end result will be the same; people will post scans or not, depending on whether or not they want to? People who know what they're talking about will still decide for themselves who wins. My opinion won't change their opinion, unless they haven't made their own opinion yet, in which case the scans could help them as well.

@AngryHulks said:

@minigunman123 said:

Dragon Ball Z: Inconsistent. Try to go with the most consistent showing of power, and ignore any statements of power levels, they are often bullcrap, unless stated with absolute certainty (i.e. a character who senses energy levels themselves, states that someone is weakened or weaker than they used to be, as opposed to someone saying "omg that attack is going to blow up da planet durr", which could very easily be speculation rather than fact)

Comic Books: Much less inconsistent. Try to go for a more consistent showing of power, but overall, the power levels aren't that inconsistent. For a character like OF Thor, use any showings of him available, since he hasn't popped up all that often, to my knowledge (maybe I'm thinking of Rune King Thor.)

Odinforce Thor... Can someone please post some feats of him for me, in these areas specifically?

Travel speed (not including teleportation)

Reaction speed

Durability

Pure firepower

Time manipulation.

If he can react fast enough and stop time and blast Goku, which I've heard he can (but have never seen scans for), Goku dies. However... As I've said, I've never seen scans of these events, so they might be BS. If he can't stop time, or react faster than Goku, then Goku can teleport and smack him around, and if he's not durable enough to live through it, he loses.

The only feats I've actually seen from OF Thor however, are melting Cap and his shield with omgwtfbbq heat vision, and stomping the avengers into a fine paste with energy blasts and pure strength. And a beard that can kill planets. Unfortunately though, Goku has enough hair for thirty beards, so he's immune to that effect.

He is durable enough to trade blasts with Surtur, who is in the same league as Odin. Although unskilled compared to his father, he does surprisingly make a great fight with Surtur, who have given even experienced individual (Odin) a trouble.

In skyfather vs conventional superhuman thread, speed doesn't really a huge factor as superhuman vs superhuman battle. That's why Flash and Zoom lose to Zeus and Odin in the other thread. It was quite true as Zeus brought Marvel's light-speedster down (Photon).

Something like time manipulation and other firepower, Killemall have a lot of these scans.

Thanks for the info!

I agree speed sometimes isn't important, i.e. Barry Allen would probably lose to, say, Spectre - but, Goku has abilities that might prove useful if he has time to use them, such as teleportation or mind reading.