no powers for goku. he can only rely on his martial arts skill. no one can blitz anyone. batman has no gadgets, and daredevil has no weapons. daredevil, of course, has his radar senses. he needs them, unless he'd be useless. lol. this is a martial arts battle, only. they all have the same level of strength and speed. goku vs daredevil vs batman. who wins?
note: dont forget that goku has trained with roshi and king kai, who is basically a deity in dbz. dbz haters seem to forget that.
so, who wins and why? and please, dbz haters, stay out. i dont need you trolling the thread with nonsense or bashing it.
goku vs. daredevil vs. batman
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oh, I thought this was spite!
Hmm...So Goku is just using his martial arts?
Hmm...Well, I'mma give the edge to Daredevil, on account of his radar senses, but that's just me.
But on second thought...Maybe Bats...
" You Know Goku Has No Super Powers He has only Skill s in Manga/Anime Too So he Just stomps this "that's y i asked because technically his only powers are his super saiyan strength and speed.@JThree47693 said:
" Then Im going with Batman he has mastered like 127 fighting styles or something along those lines "I thought it was 147
@Fire-brand said:
" i vote batman. he isn't afraid to break a few joints and rupture some stuff "Neither is Daredevil. Since this fight is straight up martial arts I'm assuming there is no utility belt or billy clubs either (since Goku has no such weapons). I give a slim majority to Daredevil.
What about Gokus Senses ? Are they weaken too ?
Because Goku can React on Near Light Speed Attacks so those Two will be unable to Hit him
Not Only that
He can Fly
Use Ki Shoot kamehameha
Use Solar Flare To Hurt Batmans eyes
Teleport Behind them
He has many Techniques and they all are part of martial arts of his world i Don't see how he will lose this
Even if he could use solar flare it wouldn't hurt Daredevil, and while he's attempting to do that he leaves himself open to attack.
Those Are Not Super Powers Those are Skills Parts of Martial arts of his World" @D3athstroke: Well, there's this thing called no powers."
If Goku is Depowered and can't use his Skill then this thread is spite
Just like juggernaut without Powers vs Batman with Prep
And yes he can teleport http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Instant_Transmission with his skill
I'm not even going to talk to you anymore. If you are actually arguing that flight and energy blasts are not superpowers then I don't see why I should. Goku has the abilities he would have if he was a normal human.
Juggernaut doesn't know how to fight, and Batman doesn't have prep here. You're trying to find something to be righteously indignant at, but I think you just don't want to admit that Goku probably won't win this under these circumstances.
What ? Do you Watched BBZ?
Those are no Superpowers those are
Skills
evry one has ki in DB verse they mast just lear how to use it even Mr.satans daughter was able to leard skill of flyingKrilin was able to fly and shoot kamehamehas and he is human
no powers for goku. he can only rely on his martial arts skill. no one can blitz anyone. batman has no gadgets, and daredevil has no weapons. daredevil, of course, has his radar senses. he needs them, unless he'd be useless. lol. this is a martial arts battle, only. they all have the same level of strength and speed. goku vs daredevil vs batman. who wins?
When has Goku actually demonstrated the use of martial arts in combat? He's learned from martial arts masters in the Dragon Ball universe, but in combat, all we really see him do is normal punches and kicks. He doesn't do any special kind of H2H or use pressure points or anything.
AAHHH yes the vaunted Bat god master of every martial art. Of course completely impossible, for one thing there are well over 450 martial arts around the globe. Not to mention the fact that it would take at least 2 years to master each one." @D3athstroke said:
" You Know Goku Has No Super Powers He has only Skill s in Manga/Anime Too So he Just stomps this "that's y i asked because technically his only powers are his super saiyan strength and speed.@JThree47693 said:" Then Im going with Batman he has mastered like 127 fighting styles or something along those lines "I thought it was 147 "
Here's a little list of SOME of the martial arts
Tinku
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu/Gracie Jiu-Jitsu
Capoeira
Luta Livre
Maculele
Vale Tudo
Defendo
Wen-Do
Okichitaw
SPEAR System
Lucha Libre
Atlatl
Rumi Maki
Bakom/Vacón
United States
10th planet jiu-jitsu
American Karate
American Kenpo
Shootfighting
American kickboxing
Bojuka
Catch wrestling
Chun Kuk Do
Collegiate Wrestling
Combatives
combat judo
Danzan-ryū
Gaidojutsu
Kosho Shorei Ryu Kempo
Jailhouse Rock
Jeet Kune Do
Kajukenbo
Kapu Kuialua
Kyuki Do
Limalama
Lua
Marine Corps LINE Combat System
Marine Corps Martial Arts Program
Mixed Martial Arts
Model Mugging
Modern Army Combatives
Pit Fighting
Sanchin-ryu
S.C.A.R.S. (military)
SeishinDo Kenpo
Shinkendo
Sli Beatha
Small Circle Jujutsu
To-Shin Do
Toso Kune Do
Bokator
Kbachkun boraan
Kbachkun Dambong-veng
Khmer traditional wrestling
Pradal Serey
Gatka (ਗਤਕਾ
Inbuan Wrestling
Kalaripayat (കളരിപയറ്റ്)
Central style
Northern style
Southern style
Lathi (लाठी)
Malla-yuddha (मल्लयुद्)
Malyutham (மல்யுத்தம்)
Niyuddha-kride (नियुद्ध क्रिडे)
Musti yuddha
Mukna (মুকনা)
Sarit Sarak (সরিত সরকার)
Silambam (சிலம்பம்)
Kuttu Varisai (குத்துவரிசை)
Varma Kalai (வர்மக்கலை)
Thang-Ta
Kuntao
Silat
Bakti Negara
Cimande
Tapak Suci
Sindo
Sumo
Shorinji kempo
Nippon Kempo
Choi Kwang-Do
Chung Suk Kuhapdo
GongKwon Yusul
Gwonbeop
Gwon-gyokdo
Gyongdang
Haidong Gumdo
Han Mu Do
Hankido
Hapkido
Hoi Jeon Moo Sool
Hwa Rang Do
Kuk Sool Won
Kumdo
Kung Jung Mu Sul
Muye24gi
Shippalgi
Ssireum
Subak
Sul Ki Do
Taekkyeon
Taekwondo
Tang soo do
Yusul
Laos
Muay Lao
Malaysia
Silat Melayu
Seni Gayung Fatani
Silat Cekak
Tomoi
Mongolia
Mongolian wrestling
Myanmar
Bando
Banshay
Lethwei
Naban
Okinawa
Karate
Kobudo
Tegumi
Malakhra
Pehlwani
Buno
Cinco Teros
Dumog
Espada y Daga
Kali Sikaran
Kombatan
Modern Arnis
Pananjakman
Panantukan
Pangamut
Sikaran
Tat Kun Tao(踢拳道)
Yawyan
NihontoDo
Angampora
Cheena di
Krabi Krabong (กระบี่-กระบอง)
Lerdrit
Muay Boran (มวยโบราณ)
Muay Thai (มวยไทย)
Silat Pattani
Boabom
Kateda
Viet Vo Dao/ Việt Võ Đạo - Vovinam (越武道)
Vovinam
Tay Son
Binh Dinh
Qwan Ki Do (Quán Khí Đạo)
Cuong Nhu
Tu-Thân
Vo Thuat
Nhat Nam
Kalinda (also Kalenda or Calinda)
Purple Dragon Don Jitsu Ryu System
El Juego de Maní
Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic
Kickboxing
Kajukenbo
Amateur Wrestling
Archery
Catch Wrestling
Fencing
Jousting
Freestyle fighting
Freestyle Wrestling
Baton Francais
Francombat
Gouren
Greco-Roman wrestling
Kinomichi
La Canne
Lutta Corsa
Savate
Georgia
Khridoli
German Ju-Jutsu
German school of fencing
Kampfringen
Nindokai
Greece
Pygmachia (Ancient Greek Boxing)
Pale (Ancient Greek wrestling)
Pankration (Ancient Greek Hybrid Combat Sport)
Ireland
Bataireacht
Collar-And-Elbow Wrestling
Italian school of swordsmanship
Roman Wrestling
Poland
Combat 56
Jogo do Pau
Spetsnaz GRU hand-to-hand combat style
Systema
Kadochnikov's Systema
ROSS
Ryabko's Systema
PRB VKZ
Serbia
Real Aikido
Svebor
Spain
Canarian Wrestling
Destreza
Juego del Palo
Keysi Fighting Method
Yawara-Jitsu
Zipota
Schwingen
sea jousting
Ukraine
Combat Hopak
Bare-knuckle boxing - (London Prize Ring rules)
Bartitsu
Boxing - (Marquess of Queensberry rules)
Chess boxing
Cornish Wrestling
Cumberland and Westmorland wrestling
Defendu
Devon wrestling
Dirk Dance
Lancashire wrestling
Quarterstaff
Scottish Backhold
Singlestick
Hokutoryu jujutsu
Iceland
Glima
Runa Glima
Norway
Stav
GKR Karate
Zen Do Kai
New Zealand
Mau Rakau
Koshti
Pahlavani
Kung Fu To'a
Israel
Kapap
Krav Maga
Turkey
Yagli Gures
Jereed
Turkish archery
Uzbekistan
Kurash
China
Bafaquan (八法拳) - Eight Methods
Baguazhang (八卦掌; Bagua Zhang) - Eight Trigrams Palm
Bajiquan (八極拳) - Eight Extremes Fist
Bak Mei (白眉拳) - White Eyebrow
Black Tiger Kung Fu (黑虎拳)
Chaquan (查拳) - Cha Fist
Changquan (長拳) - Long Fist
Chuo Jiao (戳腳) - Poking Feet
Choy Gar (蔡家) - also known as Rat Kung Fu
Choy Li Fut (蔡李佛; Càilǐfó)
Dachengquan (大成拳) - Great Achievement Boxing (Yiquan)
Ditangquan (地躺拳) - Ground-Prone Fist, Ground Tumbling Boxing
Do Pi Kung Fu (道派)
Dragon Kung Fu (Lung Ying) (龍形拳)
Duan Quan (短拳) - Short Range Boxing
Emeiquan (峨嵋拳, O Mei Ch'uan)
Fanziquan (翻子拳) - Overturning Fist, Tumbling Boxing
Five Ancestors (五祖拳) - Wuzuquan or Ngo Cho Kun
Five Animals (五形)
Fujian White Crane (福建白鶴拳) - also known as Bai He Quan (白鶴拳)
Fu Jow Pai (虎爪派) - Tiger Claw System (also titled Black Tiger Kung Fu or Hark Fu Moon)
Fut Gar (佛家)- Buddhist Palm
Gouquan (狗拳) - Dog Fist
Hakka Kuen (客家拳)
Hong Cha
Hop Gar (俠家)
Houquan (猴拳) - Monkey Fist
Drunken Monkey (醉猴)
Heihuquan: see Black Tiger Kung Fu (黑虎拳)
Hsing-i Ch'uan: see Xingyiquan (形意拳)
Huaquan (華拳) - China Fist
Hung Fut (洪佛) - Hung and Buddha style kung fu
Hung Gar (洪家拳; also known as Hung Ga or Hung Kuen) - Shaolin Style and ancestor to many southern styles
I Liq Chuan (意力拳) - Mind-Body Art, founded by Chin Lik Keong of Malaysia
Jeet Kune Do (截拳道) - Way of The Intercepting Fist
Jing Wu Men (精武門) - Jing Wu, a famous school founded in Shanghai that teaches several different styles.
Jing Quan Do (精拳道) - a modern synthetic style
Jow-Ga Kung Fu (周家) - Jow family style
Kuntao (拳道 or 拳頭) - Way of the Fist, a Hokkien term referring to Chinese
Lau Gar (刘家) - Lau family style
Lai-Ga-Sau - A recently created separate branch based in the United Kingdom
Lai Tung Pai- Shaolin Style that mixes long and short fist
Lama Pai (喇嘛派)
Leopard Kung Fu (豹拳)
Li Gar (李家) - Li Family or Lee Family style
Liu Seong Kuntao (also Liu Seong Gung Fu, Liu Seong Chuan Fa) - A Chinese art with Indonesian influence, practiced primarily in the United States
Liuhebafa Chuan (六合八法; Liu He Pa Fa, Lok Hup Ba Fa) - Six Harmonies, Eight Methods or Water Boxing
Luohan Quan (羅漢拳) Arhat Boxing, Law Horn Kuen
Mei Hua Quan (梅花拳 Plum Blossom Fist)
Mian Quan (棉花拳擊 Cotton Boxing)
Mizongyi (迷蹤拳; Mízōngquán) - Lost Track Fist (also known as My Jong Law Horn; 迷蹤羅漢拳)
Mok Gar (莫家拳) Mok family style
Monkey Kung Fu see Houquan
Nam Pai Chuan (南北拳) - North South Fist
Nan Quan (南拳) - Southern Fist
Ng Mui Pai - Plum Blossom Style (also Wu Mei Pai)
Northern Praying Mantis (北派螳螂拳)
Northern Shaolin (北少林) - Bei Shaolin
Pai Long (白龍) - White Dragon, Pai Family Method, a modern style based on Kenpo with Chinese influences found mainly in the US and Canada
Paochui (炮捶) - Cannon Fist, Sanhaung Paochui
Piguaquan (劈掛拳) - Chop-Hitch Fist, Axe-hitch boxing
Praying Mantis: see either Northern or Southern Praying Mantis
Sanshou (散手) or Sanda (散打) - Free Fighting
San Soo (散手)
Shaolin Quan (少林拳)
Shequan (蛇拳) - Snake Fist
Shou Shu (野獸藝術) - Beast Art (application art derived from kung fu)
Shuai Chiao (摔跤; Shuaijiao) - Chinese and Mongolian styles of wrestling
Southern Praying Mantis (南派螳螂拳)
Chow Gar (周家)- Chow Style Southern Praying Mantis
Tai Chi Chuan (太極拳 Tai Chi Chuan, Taijiquan) - Supreme Ultimate Boxing
CBafaquan (八法拳) - Eight Methods
Baguazhang (八卦掌; Bagua Zhang) - Eight Trigrams Palm
Bajiquan (八極拳) - Eight Extremes Fist
Bak Mei (白眉拳) - White Eyebrow
Black Tiger Kung Fu (黑虎拳)
Chaquan (查拳) - Cha Fist
Changquan (長拳) - Long Fist
Chuo Jiao (戳腳) - Poking Feet
Choy Gar (蔡家) - also known as Rat Kung Fu
Choy Li Fut (蔡李佛; Càilǐfó)
Dachengquan (大成拳) - Great Achievement Boxing (Yiquan)
Ditangquan (地躺拳) - Ground-Prone Fist, Ground Tumbling Boxing
Do Pi Kung Fu (道派)
Dragon Kung Fu (Lung Ying) (龍形拳)
Duan Quan (短拳) - Short Range Boxing
Emeiquan (峨嵋拳, O Mei Ch'uan)
Fanziquan (翻子拳) - Overturning Fist, Tumbling Boxing
Five Ancestors (五祖拳) - Wuzuquan or Ngo Cho Kun
Five Animals (五形)
Fujian White Crane (福建白鶴拳) - also known as Bai He Quan (白鶴拳)
Fu Jow Pai (虎爪派) - Tiger Claw System (also titled Black Tiger Kung Fu or Hark Fu Moon)
Fut Gar (佛家)- Buddhist Palm
Gouquan (狗拳) - Dog Fist
Hakka Kuen (客家拳)
Hong Cha
Hop Gar (俠家)
Houquan (猴拳) - Monkey Fist
Drunken Monkey (醉猴)
Heihuquan: see Black Tiger Kung Fu (黑虎拳)
Hsing-i Ch'uan: see Xingyiquan (形意拳)
Huaquan (華拳) - China Fist
Hung Fut (洪佛) - Hung and Buddha style kung fu
Hung Gar (洪家拳; also known as Hung Ga or Hung Kuen) - Shaolin Style and ancestor to many southern styles
I Liq Chuan (意力拳) - Mind-Body Art, founded by Chin Lik Keong of Malaysia
Jeet Kune Do (截拳道) - Way of The Intercepting Fist
Jing Wu Men (精武門) - Jing Wu, a famous school founded in Shanghai that teaches several different styles.
Jing Quan Do (精拳道) - a modern synthetic style
Jow-Ga Kung Fu (周家) - Jow family style
Kuntao (拳道 or 拳頭) - Way of the Fist, a Hokkien term referring to Chinese martial arts practiced in Southeast Asia and in Indonesia in particular
Lau Gar (刘家) - Lau family style
Lai-Ga-Sau - A recently created separate branch based in the United Kingdom
Lai Tung Pai- Shaolin Style that mixes long and short fist
Lama Pai (喇嘛派)
Leopard Kung Fu (豹拳)
Li Gar (李家) - Li Family or Lee Family style
Liu Seong Kuntao (also Liu Seong Gung Fu, Liu Seong Chuan Fa) - A Chinese art with Indonesian influence, practiced primarily in the United States
Liuhebafa Chuan (六合八法; Liu He Pa Fa, Lok Hup Ba Fa) - Six Harmonies, Eight Methods or Water Boxing
Luohan Quan (羅漢拳) Arhat Boxing, Law Horn Kuen
Mei Hua Quan (梅花拳 Plum Blossom Fist)
Mian Quan (棉花拳擊 Cotton Boxing)
Mizongyi (迷蹤拳; Mízōngquán) - Lost Track Fist (also known as My Jong Law Horn; 迷蹤羅漢拳)
Mok Gar (莫家拳) Mok family style
Monkey Kung Fu see Houquan
Nam Pai Chuan (南北拳) - North South Fist
Nan Quan (南拳) - Southern Fist
Ng Mui Pai - Plum Blossom Style (also Wu Mei Pai)
Northern Praying Mantis (北派螳螂拳)
Northern Shaolin (北少林) - Bei Shaolin
Pai Long (白龍) - White Dragon, Pai Family Method, a modern style based on Kenpo with Chinese influences found mainly in the US and Canada
Paochui (炮捶) - Cannon Fist, Sanhaung Paochui
Piguaquan (劈掛拳) - Chop-Hitch Fist, Axe-hitch boxing
Praying Mantis: see either Northern or Southern Praying Mantis
Sanshou (散手) or Sanda (散打) - Free Fighting
San Soo (散手)
Shaolin Quan (少林拳)
Shequan (蛇拳) - Snake Fist
Shou Shu (野獸藝術) - Beast Art (application art derived from kung fu)
Shuai Chiao (摔跤; Shuaijiao) - Chinese and Mongolian styles of wrestling
Southern Praying Mantis (南派螳螂拳)
Chow Gar (周家)- Chow Style Southern Praying Mantis
Tai Chi Chuan (太極拳 Tai Chi Chuan, Taijiquan) - Supreme Ultimate Boxing
Chen style tai chi chuan
Yang style tai chi chuan
Wu/Hao style tai chi chuan
Wu style tai chi chuan
Sun style tai chi chuan
Tai chi softball
Tantui (彈腿/譚腿) - Springing legs style
Tibetan White Crane (白鶴派)
Tien Shan Pai (天山派)
Tongbeiquan (通背拳) - Through-the-Back Fist
Tung Mo - Rise High style, compilation of Mantis, Wing Chun, Eight Immortals Style, others.
White Crane: see either Fujian White Crane or Tibetan White Crane
Wing Chun (詠春 or 永春) - Style based on movements of a snake and a crane. See also Wing Tsun
Wudangquan (武當拳)
Xingyiquan (形意拳; Hsing-i Chuan) - Form-Intent Fist
Yau Kung Mun (软功門) - Flexible-Power Style
Yingzhaoquan (鷹爪拳) - Eagle Claw Fist
Yuejiaquan (岳家槍) - Yue family Fist/Boxing
Yiquan (意拳; I Ch'uan) - Mind Boxing
Zi Ran Men (自然门) - Natural Boxing or "fist of nature"tai chi chuan
Yang style tai chi chuan
Wu/Hao style tai chi chuan
Wu style tai chi chuan
Sun style tai chi chuan
Tai chi softball
Tantui (彈腿/譚腿) - Springing legs style
Tibetan White Crane (白鶴派)
Tien Shan Pai (天山派)
Tongbeiquan (通背拳) - Through-the-Back Fist
Tung Mo - Rise High style, compilation of Mantis, Wing Chun, Eight Immortals Style, others.
White Crane: see either Fujian White Crane or Tibetan White Crane
Wing Chun (詠春 or 永春) - Style based on movements of a snake and a crane. See also Wing Tsun
Wudangquan (武當拳)
Xingyiquan (形意拳; Hsing-i Chuan) - Form-Intent Fist
Yau Kung Mun (软功門) - Flexible-Power Style
Yingzhaoquan (鷹爪拳) - Eagle Claw Fist
Yuejiaquan (岳家槍) - Yue family Fist/Boxing
Yiquan (意拳; I Ch'uan) - Mind Boxing
Zi Ran Men (自然门) - Natural Boxing or "fist of nature"
" @beatboks1: Batfactor allows him to master them all within a few years. "I know it's fiction and Anything is possible. My main beef is it's completely unnecessary. There are that many martial arts that are very similar to or derived from each other that studying only a few forms would be enough to make you one of the worlds best ( a dozen or so would assure that you are). Ninjitsu for example is a form created from 20 other art forms. Aikido, Jui Jitsu, Judo and Hapkido are all related forms with slight differences in emphasis. The best MA around study a few arts and take what they like from each to develop their own style ( a good example would be Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Doo)
"I know it's fiction and Anything is possible. My main beef is it's completely unnecessary. There are that many martial arts that are very similar to or derived from each other that studying only a few forms would be enough to make you one of the worlds best ( a dozen or so would assure that you are). Ninjitsu for example is a form created from 20 other art forms. Aikido, Jui Jitsu, Judo and Hapkido are all related forms with slight differences in emphasis. The best MA around study a few arts and take what they like from each to develop their own style ( a good example would be Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Doo) "
I was just poking fun at Batman. It's just one of those things that should be impossible for him to even accomplish, much less really add to his fighting ability, but like you said it is fiction and writers decide it up, like Slade's 90% use of his brain.
It might not make any sense, but thats how it is. Although it's fun to poke at it for a laugh.
I'd give it to Batman. I don't think anything should be taken away from Goku involving martial arts, the guy's been training since he was a chibi, and spends more of his life training than he does caring about his marriage (true story). If this were Shadowland Daredevil, I might be inclined to give him a good edge, since he no longer holds back at all, and I think a Daredevil fighting at his best without holding anything back with augmented strength should edge him in to the list of best martial artists in the MU. If this is pre-Shadowland and the normal DD who holds back, I think Goku would have a chance of defeating him, and then come down to Batman just outclassing Goku.
So no super strength, speed durability or energy blasts for goku.
Does Goku have his abilities like super smell, ability to sense slightness changes in the atmosphere, ability to read minds, to sense if someone is going to attack him, Instant transmission, flight, ability to sense ki, to blind people with light, ect?
also can he use kinton? Kinton was part of his usual gear until he learned how to fly.
It depends on how badly you want to nerf Goku. When it is said "no powers" does that include heightened senses, such as the ability to sense an opponent's energy? Does it mean no "after image" technique? No disappearing when someone turns their head and then sneak attacking? Does this also mean that any sort of similar skill in Batman and DD are also negated?
Keep in mind that Daredevil will not be extraordinarily strong based on the rules, so he would no longer have that advantage. However, he should keep his heightened senses (as should Goku, IMO) which would give both Daredevil and Goku an advantage against Batman's attempt to ambush them using ninjitsu techniques (which Goku should also retain, IMO).
I'm not really sure why anyone who was familiar with all three characters would automatically pick Batman or Daredevil over Goku in pure martial arts. He's demonstrated top-tier striking skills, acrobatics, and ninjitsu techniques. He has also shown grappling skill and superb throws. He doesn't have any known deficiencies in martial arts.
On the other hand, I can accept that Batman would likely beat Daredevil more easily than Goku would because of Batman's intelligence. He would probably figure out how to exploit DD's blindness and reliance on echolocation faster than Goku would. But I would still expect Goku to outfight Daredevil straight up.
Batman vs. Goku would likely be an even match if Goku were limited to just strikes and grappling. In that case then Batman would conceivably win by outwitting Goku, using the environment and Goku's naivety against him. But in terms of strict martial arts skill, there's no reason to think Batman is superior.
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