Poll Goku and Vegeta vs Dodoria and Kiwi (24 votes)
Goku [from Saiyan Saga] and Vegeta [from Saiyan Saga] (restricted ozaru)
Dodoria and Kiwi
Rules
- Moral off
Dodoria and Kiwi should stomp, Vegeta was nowhere near their powerlevel untill after he almost got killed by Goku.
Dodoria and Kiwi should stomp, Vegeta was nowhere near their powerlevel untill after he almost got killed by Goku.
Dodoria and Cui/Kiwi don't stomp, but they would probably win. With the Kaio-Ken Goku can potentially surpass them both for short periods of time, but his inability to hold it coupled with the fact that a Kaio-Ken x3 would only put him on par with Dodoria ensure their eventual defeat. Vegeta's power level was identical to Cui/Kiwi's, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he would have outsmarted the alien sooner or later, but Dodoria is probably too much.
Team 2 win. Kiwi is just as powerful as Vegeta at this point in time, and unless Goku can maintain a Kaio-Ken x4, neither of them have a chance against Dodoria.
Dodoria and Cui/Kiwi don't stomp, but they would probably win. With the Kaio-Ken Goku can potentially surpass them both for short periods of time, but his inability to hold it coupled with the fact that a Kaio-Ken x3 would only put him on par with Dodoria ensure their eventual defeat. Vegeta's power level was identical to Cui/Kiwi's, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he would have outsmarted the alien sooner or later, but Dodoria is probably too much.
Team 2
Team 2 win. Kiwi is just as powerful as Vegeta at this point in time, and unless Goku can maintain a Kaio-Ken x4, neither of them have a chance against Dodoria.
Dodoria and Cui should take it, the Kaioken would be temporarily effective but nothing game changing - and I believe in canon, Cui was more powerful than Vegeta at any point prior to Vegeta's power up post battle with Goku.
@juiceboks: The OP didn't specify whether he was referring to the manga or anime, so Kiwi is just as valid as Cui.
@undefined: you know it was said that under frieza vegeta was the next strongest in the north quadrant? So vegeta and goku take this, because goku beats vegeta
@xbleeding_edgex: no he wouldn't
@dbzk1999: yes he would cui was afraid f child vegeta, and while healing after he got back from Earth they mentioned saying he's nearly ten times stronger than you now and he was talking cui
@dbzk1999: Yes he would... Cui was never a threat at all to Vegeta during the saiyan saga... The flashback in the filler that showed Cui being an ass was years before the saiyan saga...
The strongest one out of these 4 can be assumed to be Dodoria... but when Cui is crushed, Dodo gets destroyed by Vegeta and Goku.
@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: @xbleeding_edgex:
No he wouldn't the two are basically stated to be equal
Context: talking about Vegeta and Kui fighting
Zarbon (?): “Their abilities should be more or less equal, so no matter what happens Vegeta won’t get away unharmed.”
@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: @xbleeding_edgex:
No he wouldn't the two are basically stated to be equal
Context: talking about Vegeta and Kui fighting
Zarbon (?): “Their abilities should be more or less equal, so no matter what happens Vegeta won’t get away unharmed.”
"Their abilities SHOULD..." and all that was, was Zarbon making an assumption. That doesn't give you any source to Cui being stronger than Vegeta.
@dbzk1999: Carbon hadn't encojntered vegeta in a long time at that point and how ock's when vegeta was a kid training cui was so impressed and scared when he saw how effortlessly kid vegeta killed 6 saibmen
@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: @xbleeding_edgex:
First off
Cui wasn't in father of goku
Second
Oh really? And what does this say
Kyui: “I'm…impossible…! We…we were supposed to be even in strength…!”
Vegeta: “You damn fool! I’ve been fighting ceaselessly in real battles! On Earth there was such a battle that I almost died! How long did you think we’d stay even as you stayed comfortable with Freeza?!”
Before vegeta went to earth, they were equal
@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: @xbleeding_edgex:
First off
Cui wasn't in father of goku
Second
Oh really? And what does this say
Kyui: “I'm…impossible…! We…we were supposed to be even in strength…!”
Vegeta: “You damn fool! I’ve been fighting ceaselessly in real battles! On Earth there was such a battle that I almost died! How long did you think we’d stay even as you stayed comfortable with Freeza?!”
Before vegeta went to earth, they were equal
You're assuming again...
I've been fighting ceaselessly in real battles....... He only had one battle on Earth.... I can assume as well, putting that statement as he fought prior to his landing on earth.
@xbleeding_edgex: when vegeta got to earth he was 18000, dodoria and Zarbon knew this
Zarbon states that cui should at least be able to injure and/or beat vegeta
I never said cui was stronger I said the were equals
Which was stated twice
@dbzk1999: why did they know that ? Napa and vegeta went to Earth on their own accord after they had just conquered another planet, they knew their power levels before the first palnet they went to take
Vegeta's power level on Earth was about 21,000. He wasn't TOO much higher, maybe and extra 3,000, when he killed Cui with a 2 finger blast and absolutely no effort. Same with Dodoria, but he used a MUCH bigger blast when he killed Dodoria. I'd say he could NARROWLY beat Dodoria, leaving Goku to take Cui since he has to use KaioKen X3, which he can't hold for long. In the end I think I'd have to say too close to call.
Vegeta's power level on Earth was about 21,000. He wasn't TOO much higher, maybe and extra 3,000, when he killed Cui with a 2 finger blast and absolutely no effort. Same with Dodoria, but he used a MUCH bigger blast when he killed Dodoria. I'd say he could NARROWLY beat Dodoria, leaving Goku to take Cui since he has to use KaioKen X3, which he can't hold for long. In the end I think I'd have to say too close to call.
I'm going with the saiyans, especially if there's no morals... Goku is usually holding back and hoping the villains have a change of heart, if he's no morals, guns blazing, he's killing them before they get a chance to fight back.
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