all of them in the android saga, just before the fight with android 19 y 20.
Goku is not sick. here.
Goku and Piccolo vs Vegeta and Trunks
Trunks can take Goku and Vegeta can take Piccolo. That said, Vegeta is also kind of an idiot and if he attacks Goku first he could get taken down pretty easily(by SSJ Goku) and then Trunks is going to get overwhelmed by both Goku and Piccolo.
I'd say team 2 takes it if Vegeta isn't a retard about fighting or team 1 takes it if Vegeta is dumb enough to try and take on Goku.
" Stalemate "I disagree. Trunks(future Trunks that is) looked to be stronger than Goku at this point in the series.
Vegeta at this point was more powerfull that Kakarott, Trunks also was more Powerfull that him, at this point he was the weaker character.
" Vegeta at this point was more powerfull that Kakarott, Trunks also was more Powerfull that him, at this point he was the weaker character. "I think this is before Vegeta went SSJ.
This say if before, but during the Android saga, not after the Freeza saga.
The Vegeta must have the powers, since he have them before the Android Saga.
" @Decoy Elite: This say if before, but during the Android saga, not after the Freeza saga. The Vegeta must have the powers, since he have them before the Android Saga. "He did?
" @DeathpooltheT1000 said:He say is before the figth with the first androids, but this dont say is between Mechafreeza and the Androids, just before, then yest he is a Supersaiyan." @Decoy Elite: This say if before, but during the Android saga, not after the Freeza saga. The Vegeta must have the powers, since he have them before the Android Saga. "He did? "
" @Decoy Elite said:Doesn't mean he's stronger than Goku. :/" @DeathpooltheT1000 said:He say is before the figth with the first androids, but this dont say is between Mechafreeza and the Androids, just before, then yest he is a Supersaiyan. "" @Decoy Elite: This say if before, but during the Android saga, not after the Freeza saga. The Vegeta must have the powers, since he have them before the Android Saga. "He did? "
" @DeathpooltheT1000 said:" @Decoy Elite said:Doesn't mean he's stronger than Goku. :/ "" @DeathpooltheT1000 said:He say is before the figth with the first androids, but this dont say is between Mechafreeza and the Androids, just before, then yest he is a Supersaiyan. "" @Decoy Elite: This say if before, but during the Android saga, not after the Freeza saga. The Vegeta must have the powers, since he have them before the Android Saga. "He did? "
For the whole Battle with the Androids, you could see Vegeta take down one of them easy.
" Vegeta and Trunks team in a landslide. Vegeta= or >Goku>>Trunks>>>>Piccolo "Is there any real evidence that Vegeta was stronger than Goku at that point? We never really got to see Goku go all out because of his heart disease. Although I do agree that Piccolo is the weak link for his team.
Vegeta takedown and android that have the power of other characters.
The Android was by far stronger at that pint, also that take part of Vegeta power and he still kil himeasy.
However Piccolo is the huge weak link here, causing his team to lose.
If this were Kami/Piccolo fusion then his team would stomp.
Actually a good fight would be post ROSAT ussj Vegeta and Trunks vs post ROSAT fpssj Goku and Kamicollo
That would go: Goku>>>>Vegeta and Trunks>>>>>>>>>>>Kamicollo.
" @Prince of Saiyans: I see your point, and I agree. Piccolo is just too weak to take on either member of team 2. "exactly,even if Goku was the strongest characther on this match (and i think Vegeta was stronger than him),he definetively cant handle both Trunks and Vegeta
Gohan is still a child and can't go super saiyan at this point, so he won't be much help.
Goku post RoSaT vs. Vegeta & Trunks post RoSaT wouldn't be much better of a fight. Possibly worse, really. Goku outclassed each of them significantly at that point, and could probably take both, especially since he doesn't have the speed weakness of the USS form to deal with. He'll just blitz them both. Piccolo would again be useless.
Goku and Piccolo beat the living death outta Vegeta and Trunk. Goku and Piccolo are well trained. Trunks is a noob. Goku will fight Vegeta and Goku will draw with him unless he decides to really take him out then Vegeta is done for and Piccolo owns Trunks everyway possible.
Trunks is a survivor of a post apocalyptic future. He was trained by Future Gohan, personally fought the androids on more than one occasion, and achieved the Super Saiyan state at a much younger age than either Goku or Vegeta. He's not a "noob," and he's much, much, much more powerful than Piccolo. At a certain point superior skill still loses to superior force. Put another way, Bruce Lee can't fight Godzilla.
" Gohan is still a child and can't go super saiyan at this point, so he won't be much help. Goku post RoSaT vs. Vegeta & Trunks post RoSaT wouldn't be much better of a fight. Possibly worse, really. Goku outclassed each of them significantly at that point, and could probably take both, especially since he doesn't have the speed weakness of the USS form to deal with. He'll just blitz them both. Piccolo would again be useless. "
it can be argued if Goku could handle Vegeta at this moment,he aint taking on both Trunks and Goku
and before you mention Goku blocking Trunks`s sword,Trunks was only testing Goku and he became stronger in the period of 3 years
@supermandefender
said:no...just no" Goku and Piccolo beat the living death outta Vegeta and Trunk. Goku and Piccolo are well trained. Trunks is a noob. Goku will fight Vegeta and Goku will draw with him unless he decides to really take him out then Vegeta is done for and Piccolo owns Trunks everyway possible. "
Trunks one-shots Piccolo...seriously,Piccolo had problems with Android 20,Trunks one-shotted Mecha Freeza,Piccolo was sh!tting bricks when he first met Trunks
and Vegeta is more than capable of beating Goku
" But I'm talking about the one that came out of the hyperbolic Time Chamber. "true,but the OP isnt :P
At this point Vegeta and Trunks were very strong, depending on which point of the android saga it is will determine the winner. Beggining of the saga, it went like this. Vegeta>> Goku >> Trunks>> Piccolo
Vegeta was the better tactition than Goku, but Piccolo was the better fighter all around than Trunks, but it would only get him so far with trunks who's far more powerful.
So with that being said, Vegeta and Trunks are the winners.
" @Matezoide:this is from the video i showed ya months ago,isnt it? :PStupid Mother F*cker. This is too close, how can you be so sure?? =P "and Vegeta is more than capable of beating Goku
i am sure of it,Vegeta teared 19 apart effortless,Goku went all out against him and couldnt do this
sure,Goku was sick,but was he so weakned to the point his best blows couldnt beat 19 when in full power he could have done exactly what Vegeta did even easier? sounds fishy to me
@Warcry80 said:
"
At this point Vegeta and Trunks were very strong, depending on which point of the android saga it is will determine the winner. Beggining of the saga, it went like this. Vegeta>> Goku >> Trunks>> Piccolo
Vegeta was the better tactition than Goku, but Piccolo was the better fighter all around than Trunks, but it would only get him so far with trunks who's far more powerful.
"
So with that being said, Vegeta and Trunks are the winners.
^ this ^
=P
Of course, i'm not saying Vegeta can not beat Goku. During that period Vegeta was actually able to do it. But you made it( sorry if i am wrong ) sound like it will be an easy match and here Goku won't be sick so it will be even more close IMO.
=]
" @Matezoide: I don't remember which video are you talking about. Can you post it in our PM? =P Of course, i'm not saying Vegeta can not beat Goku. During that period Vegeta was actually able to do it. But you made it( sorry if i am wrong ) sound like it will be an easy match and here Goku won't be sick so it will be even more close IMO. =] "i never said it would be easier,i just said Vegeta was (at the same) superior to Goku,hence why he is more than capable of taking him out
check your PMs
"Nothing else really needs to be said.
At this point Vegeta and Trunks were very strong, depending on which point of the android saga it is will determine the winner. Beggining of the saga, it went like this. Vegeta>> Goku >> Trunks>> Piccolo
Vegeta was the better tactition than Goku, but Piccolo was the better fighter all around than Trunks, but it would only get him so far with trunks who's far more powerful.
"
So with that being said, Vegeta and Trunks are the winners.
" @Matezoide:Spidey? Cursing???!!!Stupid Mother F*cker. This is too close, how can you be so sure?? =P "and Vegeta is more than capable of beating Goku
he did that more than once,actualy :P" @spidey 15 said:
Spidey? Cursing???!!! "" @Matezoide:
Stupid Mother F*cker. This is too close, how can you be so sure?? =P "and Vegeta is more than capable of beating Goku
IIRC,he did on the ``how do you picture the Viners thread``,where K4tzm4n said he saw Spidey_15 as Armor and i made a gay joke
good times :)
@spidey 15 said:
of course you agree....i am the goddamn Matezoide" @Matezoide: Oh, ok i see. Agreed. =] "
isnt Armor gay or something?" @Matezoide: lol gay jokes!Why? "
heard that somewhere.....
whatever,he cursed at me and i cursed back at him,then we hugged (in a completely straigth away) and ate cookies as we made peace
good times
@spidey 15 said:
" @Primmaster64: No need to be worried.
=P
@Matezoide: Yeah, good times. Remind me to do something similar to K4tz.
Ooooooo...shut up! ( that reminded me Silvester ) "of course you agree....i am the goddamn Matezoide
no,shut up you,you stupid yoctogram
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