Goku and Hulk vs Sentry and Gladiator

The solar system buster claim. Let me show a pic of what the solar system looks likes

Here is cell Blast 
   

 
 
Does the video show the solar system being destoryed or even damaged by the impact ? No. Is there alot of talk about solar system being destoryed or even damaged by the impact ? Yes. This is called and useless character statement aka hyperbole. There are many moment in shows and comics where a character makes a statement that doesn't back up to what they are doing.

Also

Gladiator Survives and CONTAINS energy that could destroy half the Solar System

" @Matezoide: It's been like 10 years since i have seen DB. When you say too powerful, in what degree are we talking about? =] "

" @Matezoide: Read my post above it's divine >:D "

Just to add 
 

" @Mortein:  indeed,but keep in mind,they did all that on the series`s begin,wich had some over-the-top feats similar to DB,also,Cell only wanted to take down the Earth,not the solar system,so (IMO) he wouldnt need to use a kamehameha to take down the planet if they were ,actualy,that powerfull,just shoot a barrage of ki-blasts should do the trick indeed,but how do we know the mass was 40 tons? it could have been the weight,when we say ``that thing weights 10 tons`` we arent talking about the mass itself,but the weight it haves on Earth`s gravity,i do think the gravity was superior to Earth`s,but i also think it weights 40 tons because of this planet`s gravity,while on Earth it weights about 2-4 tonsas for Freeza,him taking down Planet Vegeta like he did could have been filler,on the manga they do say Freeza destroied the Planet,but do they say how? for all we know,they could have used a machine,IMO,the way Freeza destroied the planet was suposed to be...hum...how can i say.....epic,i mean,Bardock`s death while trying to save the planet only to die with it was touching (definetively one of my favorite scenes),it wouldnt be nearly as cool if Freeza snapped his neck and then pressed a button as Planet Vegeta was destroied  again,thanks for not being a troll,being able to discuss about DBZ with someone who wont call me stupid during every sentence makes me very happy :) "

" @Matezoide said:

" @Mortein:  indeed,but keep in mind,they did all that on the series`s begin,wich had some over-the-top feats similar to DB,also,Cell only wanted to take down the Earth,not the solar system,so (IMO) he wouldnt need to use a kamehameha to take down the planet if they were ,actualy,that powerfull,just shoot a barrage of ki-blasts should do the trick indeed,but how do we know the mass was 40 tons? it could have been the weight,when we say ``that thing weights 10 tons`` we arent talking about the mass itself,but the weight it haves on Earth`s gravity,i do think the gravity was superior to Earth`s,but i also think it weights 40 tons because of this planet`s gravity,while on Earth it weights about 2-4 tonsas for Freeza,him taking down Planet Vegeta like he did could have been filler,on the manga they do say Freeza destroied the Planet,but do they say how? for all we know,they could have used a machine,IMO,the way Freeza destroied the planet was suposed to be...hum...how can i say.....epic,i mean,Bardock`s death while trying to save the planet only to die with it was touching (definetively one of my favorite scenes),it wouldnt be nearly as cool if Freeza snapped his neck and then pressed a button as Planet Vegeta was destroied  again,thanks for not being a troll,being able to discuss about DBZ with someone who wont call me stupid during every sentence makes me very happy :) "

I'd like to continue this, but I'm to tired, just to say that I agree with you that top tier DBZ characters don't have enough feats and it would be good if we could avoid using them in battle threads. Low tier DBZ characters (up to frieza sag) have enough feats to be used is battle threads,     The mass can be expressed in tons not the weight, and mass is always the same, something that has mass 1T on earth will have mass 1 t on the moon, however I wouldn't be able to bench press 1 T on earth and I would be able to bench press 1 T on the moon (maybe I'm not sure what's moons gravity) Good night "

" @Thor's hammmer said:

" @Sirealkillz:  you do relise gladiator hits harder than anyone in thee DBZ U right?   he busts planets with just his punches "

In theory anyone who can punch at light speed and have a durability to tank a planet explosion should be able to destroy a  planet with a punch "

Sentry or Gladiator could both solo.

I think Goku get severly underrated on here. 
 
In his base form, he can lift around 400 tons. As shown from when he was on King Kai's planet, and had the 40 ton weights on him. But the gravity is ten times stronger, so it'd felt like 400 tons. In SSJ3, he has strength in the hundreds of thousands, and should be able to overpower most physical combatants. In terms of fighting skill, he is a master martial artist, and is superior to everyone in the match up in terms of raw skill. He always fights at least faster than the human eye can follow. During his fight with Freeza, he was fighting faster than light speed. Finally, he has his energy abilities. In his original form, Vegeta blew up a planet early on in DBZ, now consider just how much stronger SSJ3 Goku is in comparison to the Original Vegeta... that shows just how easy it'd be for Goku to let rip with some Solar system destroying blasts which he is more than capable of. 
 
Goku is the strongest combatant in this, definitely. With the added advantage of Hulk taking up the Sentry, I see Team 1 winning this.

" @I Dreamed I Dream: I ah spike, I see that you got a new account. Why do you even bother, you know I don't give a rat-ass about your hopeless posts.  "

" @Vallant: 400 tons is still small compared to 500,000+ tons which both sentry and gladiator can push. "

" I think Goku get severly underrated on here.  In his base form, he can lift around 400 tons. As shown from when he was on King Kai's planet, and had the 40 ton weights on him. But the gravity is ten times stronger, so it'd felt like 400 tons. In SSJ3, he has strength in the hundreds of thousands, and should be able to overpower most physical combatants. In terms of fighting skill, he is a master martial artist, and is superior to everyone in the match up in terms of raw skill. He always fights at least faster than the human eye can follow. During his fight with Freeza, he was fighting faster than light speed. Finally, he has his energy abilities. In his original form, Vegeta blew up a planet early on in DBZ, now consider just how much stronger SSJ3 Goku is in comparison to the Original Vegeta... that shows just how easy it'd be for Goku to let rip with some Solar system destroying blasts which he is more than capable of.  Goku is the strongest combatant in this, definitely. With the added advantage of Hulk taking up the Sentry, I see Team 1 winning this. "

" I wonder how long it will take before he comes back this time... "

" I wonder how long it will take before he comes back this time... "

" @Vallant said:

" I think Goku get severly underrated on here.  In his base form, he can lift around 400 tons. As shown from when he was on King Kai's planet, and had the 40 ton weights on him. But the gravity is ten times stronger, so it'd felt like 400 tons. In SSJ3, he has strength in the hundreds of thousands, and should be able to overpower most physical combatants. In terms of fighting skill, he is a master martial artist, and is superior to everyone in the match up in terms of raw skill. He always fights at least faster than the human eye can follow. During his fight with Freeza, he was fighting faster than light speed. Finally, he has his energy abilities. In his original form, Vegeta blew up a planet early on in DBZ, now consider just how much stronger SSJ3 Goku is in comparison to the Original Vegeta... that shows just how easy it'd be for Goku to let rip with some Solar system destroying blasts which he is more than capable of.  Goku is the strongest combatant in this, definitely. With the added advantage of Hulk taking up the Sentry, I see Team 1 winning this. "

This is false, Goku was training on the Grand Kai's planet which had normal gravity, so in base form he is unable to lift 40 tons.  At SSJ3 Goku can lift about 16,000 tons which makes him by far the weakest character here physically  Also Vegeta never destroyed a planet, Arlia was filler  Also Goku was not fighting at light speed when he fought Freeza, in fact in the entire series no one has ever gone light speed  Basically Sentry or Gladiator could kill Goku in the blink of an eye if they wanted to, team 2 would win because Goku is too weak to be a threat here "

Jenkins' Sentry solos, but since he pretty much no longer exists anymore, Team 1, with Goku bringing the pain. If this included GT, fight would be over in no time.

All this talk about Goku at SSJ3 being a galaxy/universe buster is getting old. When has that ever happened? did someone state this in canon? I don't think so. Glads has feats that back up peoples claims about him being a powerhouse, he destroyed a planet with PUNCHES, Goku's Super Genki Dama against Kid Buu barely left a scratch on the Planet of the Kai's. He's flown through stars which are more powerful then any Kamehameha Goku could produce. He can move at FTL speeds and blitz Kakarotto before he even knew what hit him. So in all he beats Goku SSJ3 or not. Sentry and Hulk can trade punches till they fall down, so they're matched evenly. It isn't hard to understand how Sentry and Glads win here. Kallark takes out Goku with minimal effort then joins Sentry for a beatdown of Hulk. Gladiator's confidence is a non-factor here, Goku is severely below him and he knows it. No reason for self doubt.

Even is Goku is at the 400 ton level, which I highly doubt, that still doesn't even put him in Sentry/Gladiators league.  These guys are both at the hundreds of thousands of tons, if not millions of tons (for Gladiator) level.  I believe they are both faster too.

" @FinalStar86 said:

" @Vallant said:

" I think Goku get severly underrated on here.  In his base form, he can lift around 400 tons. As shown from when he was on King Kai's planet, and had the 40 ton weights on him. But the gravity is ten times stronger, so it'd felt like 400 tons. In SSJ3, he has strength in the hundreds of thousands, and should be able to overpower most physical combatants. In terms of fighting skill, he is a master martial artist, and is superior to everyone in the match up in terms of raw skill. He always fights at least faster than the human eye can follow. During his fight with Freeza, he was fighting faster than light speed. Finally, he has his energy abilities. In his original form, Vegeta blew up a planet early on in DBZ, now consider just how much stronger SSJ3 Goku is in comparison to the Original Vegeta... that shows just how easy it'd be for Goku to let rip with some Solar system destroying blasts which he is more than capable of.  Goku is the strongest combatant in this, definitely. With the added advantage of Hulk taking up the Sentry, I see Team 1 winning this. "

This is false, Goku was training on the Grand Kai's planet which had normal gravity, so in base form he is unable to lift 40 tons.  At SSJ3 Goku can lift about 16,000 tons which makes him by far the weakest character here physically  Also Vegeta never destroyed a planet, Arlia was filler  Also Goku was not fighting at light speed when he fought Freeza, in fact in the entire series no one has ever gone light speed  Basically Sentry or Gladiator could kill Goku in the blink of an eye if they wanted to, team 2 would win because Goku is too weak to be a threat here "

This is false as well. Goku was training on unknown planet with unknown gravity. What does normal gravity even means? is there abnormal gravity? Every planet has it's own gravity and probability that planet on which Goku was training had the same gravity as Earth is negligible.  Also he was holding 40T while flying in the air, he just wasn't able to move with it. "

" @Mortein said:

This is false as well. Goku was training on unknown planet with unknown gravity. What does normal gravity even means? is there abnormal gravity? Every planet has it's own gravity and probability that planet on which Goku was training had the same gravity as Earth is negligible.  Also he was holding 40T while flying in the air, he just wasn't able to move with it. "

No actually its true
 
Unless the gravity of that planet was specifically stated then we assume its normal gravity and by normal we mean Earth level
 
If we went by your logic, every time someone lifts something on another planet in any form of media it would be impossible to tell how much weight was actually lifted  So basically yeah, it was 40 tons and ONLY 40 tons  Also he was holding 10 tons on Each limb, its easier then holding up the entire 40 tons with only your upper body "

" @Mortein: Your logic is incredibly faulty, if we went by this then anytime someone lifted something off the Earth we wouldn't know how much it weighed because the planets gravity was unknown  Bottom line, without any statement of the planets gravity we assume it is normal gravity as in Earth's gravity  You can assume whatever you like, but you are wrong.  It was 40 tons and ONLY 40 tons   So no, as always, you are wrong "

" @Mortein: Your logic is incredibly faulty, if we went by this then anytime someone lifted something off the Earth we wouldn't know how much it weighed because the planets gravity was unknown  Bottom line, without any statement of the planets gravity we assume it is normal gravity as in Earth's gravity  You can assume whatever you like, but you are wrong.  It was 40 tons and ONLY 40 tons   So no, as always, you are wrong "

" @NexusOfLight said:

"Hmm, I really don't know. I have to say this match is pretty even. I think if team two has a higher chance of winning, though. Goku's SS3 form will be taxing on his body, so he may tire himself out, but at the same time, Hulk is there, starting off in is World Breaker form, and getting stronger. But the problem there is if Goku goes down, it'll be Hulk fighting against two insanely fast people and powerful people. I say team two 6/10 times. Good match up. "

Do you think Goku may have been able to sustain ssj3 form by the end of Z 10 years of training after the buu saga would probably be a big improvement especially with characters as dedicated as goku and vegeta "

" @FinalStar86 said:

" @Mortein: Your logic is incredibly faulty, if we went by this then anytime someone lifted something off the Earth we wouldn't know how much it weighed because the planets gravity was unknown  Bottom line, without any statement of the planets gravity we assume it is normal gravity as in Earth's gravity  You can assume whatever you like, but you are wrong.  It was 40 tons and ONLY 40 tons   So no, as always, you are wrong "

 Since you are, as you said, only assuming that the gravity was the same as Earths, you are also only assuming that I am wrong, just like I am assuming you are.     Neither of us can prove the other one is wrong so I suggest we leave this feat alone.  If someone lifts something on a planet with unknown gravity and there are no hints to how big the gravity might be, then we don't know how much could he lift on Earth, this is a fact, obviously.   Also why do you keep repeating that the mass was 40T, we all know that. The mass was 40T. "

Inevitable lock in 5...4...3...2...1.

I'll go team two here

Look everyone who isn't a DBZ fanboy has come to the agreement that team 2 wins. This thread doesn't need to go any longer, so can somebody please call a mod to lock this thread.

" @Pr_Beyonder said:

" @NexusOfLight said:

"Hmm, I really don't know. I have to say this match is pretty even. I think if team two has a higher chance of winning, though. Goku's SS3 form will be taxing on his body, so he may tire himself out, but at the same time, Hulk is there, starting off in is World Breaker form, and getting stronger. But the problem there is if Goku goes down, it'll be Hulk fighting against two insanely fast people and powerful people. I say team two 6/10 times. Good match up. "

Do you think Goku may have been able to sustain ssj3 form by the end of Z 10 years of training after the buu saga would probably be a big improvement especially with characters as dedicated as goku and vegeta "

Perhaps, since we haven't seen SS3 Goku at the end of DBZ (excluding GT, but that's something completely different) everything stated about it is completely speculation, but I don't really think he'd be able to do it. From the looks of it, it wasn't a manner of him handling the power, it was that it drained too much energy. Sure, he can train his body to fight under those conditions, and probably develop the best method of doing so, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still very taxing on his body while he's alive. Of course, if he were dead, the energy thing wouldn't matter at all, but that's not the case here. I still stand by my decision. "