Both start thinking they can effortlessly beat the other. Then they get serious.
Fight takes place in space.
(Fusions can reach what ever theoretical transformation CVers think they need to win lol)
Both start thinking they can effortlessly beat the other. Then they get serious.
Fight takes place in space.
(Fusions can reach what ever theoretical transformation CVers think they need to win lol)
Bills and SSJG Goku. EASILY.
How?
Team Gods are on a completely different level.
This...
Vegito as SSJ 2 was superior to what SSG ever shown. I'm pretty sure he can go SSJ3 if he wanted to. Gotenks could even tho neither kid ever reached SSJ3. Bills would be über stomp by SSJ4 Gogeta. Team Fusion wins easy.
@ultrastarkiller: Vegito and Gogeta are way under what SSJ God and Bills have to offer.
Vegito never went Super Saiyan 2.
Anyway, Team Gods stomp here.
In The Game Budakai 3 Vegito goes Super Sayain 2 max. I believe that reflects the highest we see Vegito go in the anime as well. I highly doubt Vegito was the only character with a made up transformation.
What are you talking about? The games aren't canon, and Vegito never went Super Saiyan 2 in the anime either. And what do you mean "the only character with a made up transformation"?
Make it more even please.
Like Gogeta & Bills vs Vegito & SSG God
Or put in SSJ4 Gogeta solo vs SSG and Bills?
Don't know how Bills can be stated to be stronger than Vegito when we never even saw either Vegito or Gogeta fight with full power
The point is Bills was so strong his power couldn't even be felt. He is stated a Galaxy Buster with the ability to one-shot a galaxy I.e. destroy it instantly. Neither vegito or gogeta have any feats near this at all, stated or otherwise. If the fusions are 2 ssj+ in power, ssjg is 6ssj+ in power. So....mismatch. watch the movie, people. U took the two strongest guys in the dbz universe n put them against the two second strongest (excluding Weis) Obviously the strongest in the universe win. With ease
Team Gods are on a completely different level.
sigh...
a lot of misconceptions here, let me correct some :
now back to topic, this is difficult to tell who's strongest, it's only matter of assumption, we can't be sure. my personnal opinion is that team gods win this, because of those points :
so to summarize it, we can't tell if Bills is more powerful than Vegeto, but they should be close if not Bills surpassing him. and both Bills and SSJ God Goku surpass Gogeta.
meaning Bills>=Vegeto and SSJ God Goku > Gogeta,
meaning Bills+SSJ God Goku > Vegeto +Gogeta
that's my opinion
Why are people even arguing this? Bills was stated to be stronger than Vegetto. Gogeta can't be stronger than Vegetto, done.
ssj god goku=10x ssj 3=70%bills
While
Gotenks ssj3 = ssj 3 goku(at least)
And goten,trunk<<<goku,vageta
So a fustion at leas increase power 10x
So
vegeto=ssj god goku
While ssj vegeto=50x ssj god goku
So
Vegeto solo
The point is Bills was so strong his power couldn't even be felt. He is stated a Galaxy Buster with the ability to one-shot a galaxy I.e. destroy it instantly. Neither vegito or gogeta have any feats near this at all, stated or otherwise. If the fusions are 2 ssj+ in power, ssjg is 6ssj+ in power. So....mismatch. watch the movie, people. U took the two strongest guys in the dbz universe n put them against the two second strongest (excluding Weis) Obviously the strongest in the universe win. With ease
why do people say that ssj g > vegito because it has power of 6 saiyans?? SSj g only has power from six saiyans . Vegito have whole power and body and everything of two different saiyans.
@theamazingbatman: Ok, I'm saying this now so all the debates about Vegito and Beerus will end.
In Japan yesterday (March 22) an extended version of BOG aired on T.V. This extended version includes scens AT wanted in the movie but had to be cut out due to time constraints. In one of the new scenes, after Goku loses to Beerus the first time, he specifically says (I'm paraphrasing) "Even if Vegeta and I fused we still wouldn't beat him".
Keep in mind when he said this he had only fought a heavily suppressed Beerus.
Also, already in the movie, when he transformed in to SSJG (at 80%) he said it was a level beyond what he thought was possible. Goku should (obviously) know what Vegito's hypothetical full power would be based on his own SSJ multipliers.
So basically: Whis>Beerus>SSJG Goku>>>>SSJ3 Vegito.
@theamazingbatman: Ok, I'm saying this now so all the debates about Vegito and Beerus will end.
In Japan yesterday (March 22) an extended version of BOG aired on T.V. This extended version includes scens AT wanted in the movie but had to be cut out due to time constraints. In one of the new scenes, after Goku loses to Beerus the first time, he specifically says (I'm paraphrasing) "Even if Vegeta and I fused we still wouldn't beat him".
Keep in mind when he said this he had only fought a heavily suppressed Beerus.
Also, already in the movie, when he transformed in to SSJG (at 80%) he said it was a level beyond what he thought was possible. Goku should (obviously) know what Vegito's hypothetical full power would be based on his own SSJ multipliers.
So basically: Whis>Beerus>SSJG Goku>>>>SSJ3 Vegito.
I know that ssj god >>>>> vegito . I was only saying that this power doesn't comes from the saiyans .
@theamazingbatman: who was saying it did
@theamazingbatman: who was saying it did
The guy whose post i quoted
Both start thinking they can effortlessly beat the other. Then they get serious.
Fight takes place in space.
(Fusions can reach what ever theoretical transformation CVers think they need to win lol)
LOL it's funny how gogeta looks like vegeta...and vegito looks like goku...lol
Anyway, SSJ4 Vegito solo Ultimatestomps!
Team Gods are on a completely different level.
@indiecomicsftw: vegito only went SSj1 im pretty sure vegito will stomp solo if your going to allow it to go ssj3 as his powerlevel would be the same as goku and vegetas powerlevel times by each other and added a bit of a bonush
@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: Goku specifically said in the new scenes from BOG that they would lose even if they fused. Goku should be well aware of SSJ3 Vegito's Power since he knows how the transformations affect his own power.
Just saying that I find the movie total bull. It doesn't directly contradict with the well established DBZ universe, but it doesn't flow smoothly.
And OP basically told us the results/answers already, (Fusions can reach what ever theoretical transformation CVers think they need to win lol). And that means, as ridiculous as it sounds, you can get Gogeta to fuse with Vegito using those earrings and ascend to a whole new level of ridiculousness. Heck, it's a battle between four characters where three of them contains a "Goku" in it. Mind as well fuse the "weaker" side (debatable) and make them stronger and more ridiculous. Depending on how you mix the names, you can get Vegeto, Gogeto, Gogito, or Vegeta back!! And then amp them up to SSJ3. Or even better, amp it up to SSG as the "Fusions can reach what ever theoretical transformations CVers think they need to win".
With that, you get SSG Vegeta ((Goku + Vegeta) + (Vegeta + Goku)) vs Beers and SSG Goku. I'm sure Vegeta can go 1 vs 2, np.
In that case, Vegito and Gogeta fuse to make Gegita, and SSJG Goku and Bills fuse to make Super-God Gillus.
@anime2114: Ok, I'm saying this now so all the debates about Vegito and Beerus will end.
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Woah...could it be? Are you the chosen one?!
Lmao I'm just kidding, nice try buddy
@thesuperhuman: (Fusions can reach what ever theoretical transformation CVers think they need to win lol)
Fusions should be referring to Gogeta and Vegito since they are both fused characters and hence, fusions. So I don't think Beerus and SSG Goku can and will fuse.
@theamazingbatman: Ok, I'm saying this now so all the debates about Vegito and Beerus will end.
In Japan yesterday (March 22) an extended version of BOG aired on T.V. This extended version includes scens AT wanted in the movie but had to be cut out due to time constraints. In one of the new scenes, after Goku loses to Beerus the first time, he specifically says (I'm paraphrasing) "Even if Vegeta and I fused we still wouldn't beat him".
Keep in mind when he said this he had only fought a heavily suppressed Beerus.
Also, already in the movie, when he transformed in to SSJG (at 80%) he said it was a level beyond what he thought was possible. Goku should (obviously) know what Vegito's hypothetical full power would be based on his own SSJ multipliers.
So basically: Whis>Beerus>SSJG Goku>>>>SSJ3 Vegito.
Thats bullshit and doesn't prove a thing.Until we know for sure please stop this nonsense.And i cant wait for extended, you guys bring up a lot of things but nothing to back them up.I insisted once, he said he saw it, turned out he made that up from his a ss.
Thats bullshit and doesn't prove a thing.Until we know for sure please stop this nonsense.And i cant wait for extended, you guys bring up a lot of things but nothing to back them up.I insisted once, he said he saw it, turned out he made that up from his a ss.
We don't even need the extended scenes. Goku states during his battle against Bills that he was upset that he needed SSG to fight Bills evenly. That means Fusion wasn't an option. Piccolo says Goku had no chance when everyone just gave him their power explaining that it doesn't matter how much he increases his power he won't reach god level. Finally when the SSG transformation failed the first time, everyone pretty much felt screwed which wouldn't make sense if Vegito/Gogeta could just come in and save the day. Heck, Buu could always unabsorb them anyway so there's issue either way. Goku and Vegeta are powerful, yes but SSG also has Goku and Vegeta plus Gohan, Trunks and Goten.
And OP basically told us the results/answers already, (Fusions can reach what ever theoretical transformation CVers think they need to win lol). And that means, as ridiculous as it sounds, you can get Gogeta to fuse with Vegito using those earrings and ascend to a whole new level of ridiculousness. Heck, it's a battle between four characters where three of them contains a "Goku" in it. Mind as well fuse the "weaker" side (debatable) and make them stronger and more ridiculous. Depending on how you mix the names, you can get Vegeto, Gogeto, Gogito, or Vegeta back!! And then amp them up to SSJ3. Or even better, amp it up to SSG as the "Fusions can reach what ever theoretical transformations CVers think they need to win".
With that, you get SSG Vegeta ((Goku + Vegeta) + (Vegeta + Goku)) vs Beers and SSG Goku. I'm sure Vegeta can go 1 vs 2, np.
Team Fusion doesn't have enough Saiyans to get into SSG even if we count each one as two Saiyans. Any new fused character would unfuse anyway after 30 minutes or faster if they go SS3. When Buu fused with Gotenks he lost their power once fusion wore off and it was quicker than he anticipated. If Fusion man goes SS3 then who knows how fast he'd go through fusion.
We don't even need the extended scenes. Goku states during his battle against Bills that he was upset that he needed SSG to fight Bills evenly. That means Fusion wasn't an option.
How do we know that?You see it's easy to say that, im not saying this because i like Vegito more than anyone in DBZ, it's because they never talked about Vegito.
If Goku says he 'needs' SSG, and he uses the word need, to fight Bills then he can't fight Bills without SSG. That's the definition of the word. Then there's Piccolo's statement that just increasing Ki wouldn't be enough to reach God level that supports this as well. Do you think Goku/Vegeta would just let the world end without even trying Fusion if they thought they had a chance? That's the only alternative really. Goku/Vegeta see Bills threaten the planet then, even though Fusion might save them, they just let Bills destroy the planet anyway.
@misterguyman: Also, Buu had mystic Gohan and ssj3 Gotenks and picolo, yet Vegito stomped him.God ki and power of 6 sayians, doesn't mean bigger power than Vegito.Goten and Trunks power is nothing.Gotenks ssj3>vegeta, see where im going?Their power combined doesn't surpass Vegito, sure we can blame the kids for that, if it were 2 Gotenks it would be close.Who knows if Vegito and Gogeta can or cannot sense god ki, they too are kinda gods.Then you have Goku, he wanted to fight him alone...this means no fusions.Let's not ignore this and say that the fusion is out of the question because it wasn't even stated.
@ghostrider2: No, you're wrong, fusion Was stated. In the "Director's cut" that came out in Japan a few days ago Goku actually says that even if he and Vegeta fuse they would still lose. This was when Beerus was still heavily suppressed. On top of that he already mentioned in the original movie that SSJG (at 80%) was a level beyond what he thought was possible.
Whis>Beerus>>SSJG Goku>>>>>SSJ3 Vegito.
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